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berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
Sun Jun 1, 2014, 11:38 PM Jun 2014

More Evidence Snowden e-mail a complete Lie. NBC Timeline shows he contacted Greenwald in Dec. 2012

Last edited Mon Jun 2, 2014, 01:05 AM - Edit history (1)

NBC has a great timeline on Snowden and his activities.

Not even six months after he contributed to Ron Paul's campaign ($250 in March and June of 2012), he reached out to conservative writer Glen Greenwald in December of 2012. He also contacted documentarist, Laura Poitras, one month after that in January 2013.

Snowden was planning to leak documents a good 5 months before he said he reached out through the NSA General Counsel in April of 2013, and as the email was revealed, it had nothing to do with potential abuse of power by the NSA.

The fact is, Snowden planned the leak with Greenwald and Poitras and never intended to follow proper channels to report any perceived abuse.

Full timeline of Snowden's activities here: http://www.nbcnews.com/feature/edward-snowden-interview/edward-snowden-timeline-n114871

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More Evidence Snowden e-mail a complete Lie. NBC Timeline shows he contacted Greenwald in Dec. 2012 (Original Post) berni_mccoy Jun 2014 OP
Gee how did he even know he would ever find anything? treestar Jun 2014 #1
He's that good, treestar. randome Jun 2014 #43
Why Would Anyone Believe An Established News Organization Today? cantbeserious Jun 2014 #2
But your compatriots were all excited cuz NBC was gonna settle it for them. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2014 #3
Whose Compatriots? cantbeserious Jun 2014 #40
Why would Snowden INC get Brian Williams to interview him? Cha Jun 2014 #5
Who Seduced Whom cantbeserious Jun 2014 #36
A match made in hell. Cha Jun 2014 #37
Or Heaven As The Case May Be cantbeserious Jun 2014 #38
Why would anyone believe ANYTHING today? OilemFirchen Jun 2014 #7
Many Believe What The 1% Want Them To Believe cantbeserious Jun 2014 #41
K&R Whisp Jun 2014 #4
Snowden's a fucking sociopathic liar. Cha Jun 2014 #6
Yet he managed to get hired by the NSA. MattSh Jun 2014 #15
Booz Allen.. obviously didn't screen his lying ass well enough. Cha Jun 2014 #19
Makes ya wonder who else they might have missed quakerboy Jun 2014 #33
Yeah, Snowden's obviously a liar and now maybe they'll make sure they don't hire traitors. Cha Jun 2014 #35
They are the traitors, Cha, they are the traitors. Scuba Jun 2014 #42
Oh excuse me.. they won't hire a Liar, a hacker, a thief, a runner, a Leaker, and a Liar to cover Cha Jun 2014 #46
They are the traitors, Cha, they are the traitors. Scuba Jun 2014 #47
Oohh! Where did they meet? So excited to hear the details but I know you won't answer. Luminous Animal Jun 2014 #8
"conservative writer Glen Greenwald?" Hissyspit Jun 2014 #9
In his own words berni_mccoy Jun 2014 #11
Fascinating Hekate Jun 2014 #10
WOW, I had no clue! MohRokTah Jun 2014 #12
Really didn't know the background on this subject you seem to have such strong opinions about? Hissyspit Jun 2014 #13
Just more typical GG and ES shite.. fits right in with their calculating MO. LIE LIE LIE.. to Cha Jun 2014 #23
Oh this doesn't matter davidpdx Jun 2014 #14
Yeah, just because he's a Libertarian asshole and can't stand Presdient Obama. Too Cha Jun 2014 #24
I think your sarcasm detector was broken there davidpdx Jun 2014 #26
Oh, I Cha Jun 2014 #28
That means my sarcasm of your sarcasm was missed davidpdx Jun 2014 #30
A Cha Jun 2014 #32
You're serious!?!?! DeSwiss Jun 2014 #16
Then again he isn't the one with the monkey davidpdx Jun 2014 #27
You haven't a clue what you are talking about ... DrBulldog Jun 2014 #17
Haha.. GG's book.. "fully documented". Yeah, to fit his fucking agenda. nm Cha Jun 2014 #29
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2014 #18
Snowden's an "evil" Liar.. there's no reason to lie but he does.. like a snake. Cha Jun 2014 #20
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2014 #21
As is anyone who criticizes the government! No matter what the NSA did that is NEVER acceptable! Douglas Carpenter Jun 2014 #25
the email grasswire Jun 2014 #22
How curious. NanceGreggs Jun 2014 #34
projection: re: "snowden fans" bobduca Jun 2014 #50
The question is about an abuse of Power from Edward Fucking Snowden who isn't "god".. even Cha Jun 2014 #31
Free clue nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #39
If this isn't about Snowden, then why does Snowden berni_mccoy Jun 2014 #48
When you decide to finally deal with the message nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #49
I guess he was trained as a spy... JaneyVee Jun 2014 #44
The important thing is knowing what the NSA has been up to Silent3 Jun 2014 #45
Unless Snowden is illiterate ... GeorgeGist Jun 2014 #51
He didn't seem to understand what a secure FTP server is used for so... randome Jun 2014 #52
 

randome

(34,845 posts)
43. He's that good, treestar.
Mon Jun 2, 2014, 06:30 AM
Jun 2014

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
7. Why would anyone believe ANYTHING today?
Mon Jun 2, 2014, 01:02 AM
Jun 2014

I form my opinions based upon the aura achieved by applying a special algorithm to the pixels in the bottom left corner of my display.

Granted, sometimes I research shit, but... the aura.

MattSh

(3,714 posts)
15. Yet he managed to get hired by the NSA.
Mon Jun 2, 2014, 01:49 AM
Jun 2014

You'd think they could detect something like that. If they can't, they deserve to get leaked.

quakerboy

(13,918 posts)
33. Makes ya wonder who else they might have missed
Mon Jun 2, 2014, 03:58 AM
Jun 2014

He is apparently fairly amateur. He didn't have much of a useful plan, when it comes down to it. Imagine what someone determined to gain personal benefit through darker means could have done given the access he was given. If an amateur like Snowden slipped through , who else has made their way inside?

Cha

(297,123 posts)
46. Oh excuse me.. they won't hire a Liar, a hacker, a thief, a runner, a Leaker, and a Liar to cover
Mon Jun 2, 2014, 07:01 AM
Jun 2014

his sniveling ass.. after the fact.

 

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
11. In his own words
Mon Jun 2, 2014, 01:09 AM
Jun 2014
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025035849#post25

Let's not forget he wrote a book dispelling myths about Republicans.

If you can't see him for what he is, that's your problem.
 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
12. WOW, I had no clue!
Mon Jun 2, 2014, 01:10 AM
Jun 2014

That definitely demonstrates both Greenwald and Poitras are accomplices in the crime!

Cha

(297,123 posts)
23. Just more typical GG and ES shite.. fits right in with their calculating MO. LIE LIE LIE.. to
Mon Jun 2, 2014, 03:27 AM
Jun 2014

fit their agenda.

Cha

(297,123 posts)
24. Yeah, just because he's a Libertarian asshole and can't stand Presdient Obama. Too
Mon Jun 2, 2014, 03:29 AM
Jun 2014

bad whiny. Stay in Russia.. it's too scary when Putin's not protecting your lying ass.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
27. Then again he isn't the one with the monkey
Mon Jun 2, 2014, 03:36 AM
Jun 2014

(I mean George W. Bush) in his post. I knew this place had "gone to the zoo", but that is ridiculous.

Response to berni_mccoy (Original post)

Response to Cha (Reply #20)

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
22. the email
Mon Jun 2, 2014, 03:02 AM
Jun 2014

It addresses a potential constitutional crisis.

Does an Executive Order take precedence over the Constitution/law?


That is a question of abuse of power by NSA.

Got it now?

NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
34. How curious.
Mon Jun 2, 2014, 04:00 AM
Jun 2014

The email addresses a potential Constitutional crisis - funny that Snowden himself doesn't see it that way, and never raised the topic.

Maybe you should contact Eddie and remind him that his fans KNOW what that email meant, even if he doesn't. It's a sad day when the narrator of his own story has to be reminded that he's getting in the way of his fan base's preferred narrative.

Cha

(297,123 posts)
31. The question is about an abuse of Power from Edward Fucking Snowden who isn't "god".. even
Mon Jun 2, 2014, 03:52 AM
Jun 2014

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though he fucking thinks it.

Edit: clarify

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
39. Free clue
Mon Jun 2, 2014, 05:05 AM
Jun 2014

This stopped being about Snowden about the time of a dancer and boxes in the garage. We have had this conversation before, so I expect the same exact effect...so taking out the prop...err trash.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
49. When you decide to finally deal with the message
Mon Jun 2, 2014, 08:15 AM
Jun 2014

NSA over reach, we might have something to talk about.

As I said, taking out the propaganda.

Silent3

(15,190 posts)
45. The important thing is knowing what the NSA has been up to
Mon Jun 2, 2014, 06:56 AM
Jun 2014

I really don't give a damn who is or is not a hero or a criminal, who is being brave or who is being an asshole.

I think some of what has been revealed has been exaggerated (for example, a lot of the documents talked about what the NSA aspired to do, not what they were actually doing yet, some of which might be very technically difficult to ever implement), but the stuff that we can know for sure the NSA has been doing is more than damning enough.

It would be one thing if matters of personal character cast doubt on the information that has been revealed, but you don't hear the government denying very much -- trying to downplay it for sure, providing not-so-reassuring assurances that the NSA isn't abusing what it's been monitoring and collecting -- but rather anger that a true or mostly-true story has been revealed, one they'd have rather kept secret.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
52. He didn't seem to understand what a secure FTP server is used for so...
Mon Jun 2, 2014, 04:21 PM
Jun 2014

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Sometimes it seems like the only purpose in life is to keep your car from touching another's.[/center][/font][hr]
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