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packman

(16,296 posts)
Mon Jun 2, 2014, 01:22 PM Jun 2014

Jailing Pregnant women?

Torn on this. Tennessee just signed a law which :

"allows prosecutors to charge a woman with criminal assault if she uses illegal drugs during her pregnancy and her fetus or newborn is considered harmed as a result"

On the one hand, a child should be protected from the harm it may suffer - on the other hand, this law will have a disproportionate impact on poor mothers who don't have access or finances to help them. In particular Tennessee is a state that has a dearth of health care facilities and has refused Obamacare.

http://www.salon.com/2014/04/30/tennessee_just_became_the_first_state_that_will_jail_women_for_their_pregnancy_outcomes/

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Jailing Pregnant women? (Original Post) packman Jun 2014 OP
Women of childbearing years are just incubators Ilsa Jun 2014 #1
+1 redqueen Jun 2014 #6
Just so I am clear... Demo_Chris Jun 2014 #7
No, of course not. Ilsa Jun 2014 #8
So let's discourage pregnant women using drugs from getting prenatal care. uppityperson Jun 2014 #2
"but I don’t want to get into that because that’s another subject." ck4829 Jun 2014 #3
I suspect they don't really give a shit about the fetus or the child... TreasonousBastard Jun 2014 #4
This is a tough subject. Wait Wut Jun 2014 #5
Fucking punishment fetishists. Iggo Jun 2014 #9
but tobacco and alcohol are OK? maggiesfarmer Jun 2014 #10

Ilsa

(61,687 posts)
1. Women of childbearing years are just incubators
Mon Jun 2, 2014, 01:27 PM
Jun 2014

to these assholes. They don't care about the real outcomes of treating women this way "to protect the baby." They'll just create a class of mothers handling pregnancy without any medical intervention for themselves or the babies they birth.

 

Demo_Chris

(6,234 posts)
7. Just so I am clear...
Mon Jun 2, 2014, 02:13 PM
Jun 2014

You think it's okay for pregnant women to, for example, smoke crack or meth?

Ilsa

(61,687 posts)
8. No, of course not.
Mon Jun 2, 2014, 05:59 PM
Jun 2014

And I've seen this first hand with a family member:
This type of law will only make the pregnant woman avoid any kind of prenatal care, instead of getting help for her habit and getting high-risk obstetric care.

Furthermore, the lawmakers can use this absurd law to go after any woman with a less than perfect outcome, even if she had a completely normal-looking pregnancy.

ck4829

(35,020 posts)
3. "but I don’t want to get into that because that’s another subject."
Mon Jun 2, 2014, 01:30 PM
Jun 2014

-Terri Lynn Weaver, who sponsored the bill, on the lack of options for treatment and affordability.

Yes, that solves everything, just don't get into that.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
4. I suspect they don't really give a shit about the fetus or the child...
Mon Jun 2, 2014, 01:32 PM
Jun 2014

it's just some odd puritanical control they have to have.

Wait Wut

(8,492 posts)
5. This is a tough subject.
Mon Jun 2, 2014, 02:04 PM
Jun 2014

As the child of two alcoholic parents, both of whom also chain smoked, I can give you some first-hand info on what LEGAL drugs can do to an unborn child. But, all you have to do is Google it to find countless studies. That way I don't have to talk about it.

While I understand the concern that some have for the mother, the child is innocent in this and has no choice. Should a mother be forced to care for herself when pregnant? It's easy to say 'no' when you don't see the results of the mother's choices...until it's too late. These are life-long issues for the child that sometimes don't become obvious until the child is older, sometimes into adulthood. Does 'mom' get to party for 9 months while her child suffers for 50-80 years because of her decision? It sucks.

This is why we need to protect a woman's right to choose, provide easy and affordable access to birth control, and before we start throwing mothers in jail, let's try parenting programs and drug/alcohol counseling. Oh, and when that kid is born? Let's not just applaud a successful birth and walk away. Mom will need even more help once she's holding her new baby.

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