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meegbear

(25,438 posts)
Mon Jun 2, 2014, 03:38 PM Jun 2014

The Rude Pundit - Regarding Republicans and the Exchanged Taliban Members: ...

It's Too Easy to Be Outraged

Things are never as simple as they seem. A vagina, for example, is not merely a hole into which one can thrust a penis or penis-shaped object, vibrating or sedentary. There are all kinds of nuances around a vagina, various nerves that need to be stimulated, ways in which one can manipulate the labia and clitoris, the placement of fingers or tongue or lips prior to the introduction of whatever may be used as a phallus. The crudest straight men (and, yes, almost exclusively straight men) miss out on so much because they believe that what one gets out fucking is, in the most literal sense, what one puts into it. That man can claim that he did, indeed, fuck a hole, and if that's all he wants, well, missionary accomplished. It's easier that way, no? It's so much easier to merely worry about the thrusting and the quick squirt than worrying about all that tiresome playing and teasing? But, see, if you believe that the world is not just about you, if you believe that the act of sex with a woman is really about attempting to understand a whole other being, well, hell, man, you have to reckon with the fact that this reality around us is a whole lot more complex than most people even want it to be.

When the Rude Pundit first read about the exchange of five members of the Taliban who had been detained at the prison at Guantanamo Bay for the only American soldier prisoner of war in Afghanistan and then he heard how Republicans were upset at the deal because the released detainees might attack Americans again, he wondered what the Gitmo detainees had been through. That's not to diminish the five years that Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl endured as a POW (a real, actual POW, not a "detainee," whatever that bullshit term means in terms of being a prisoner during a war).

Ted Cruz was all concerned about how the soldiers who captured the Taliban members might feel about the exchange: "Can you imagine what (Bergdahl) would say to his fallen comrades who lost their lives to stop these people who were responsible, either directly or indirectly, for threatening or taking U.S. civilian lives." Yes, their feelings matter. Except, of course, that no Americans died capturing them. Yeah, see, Mullah Norullah Noori turned himself in. Mohammed Nabi Omari was tricked into being arrested at an airport. Khirullah Khairkwha was captured by Pakistani forces when he was trying to negotiate a surrender. He was transferred to American custody. Mullah Mohammad Fazl surrendered to U.S. forces. Abdul Haq Wasiq said he could provide the U.S. with Taliban leader Mullah Omar's location, but he was arrested by the U.S. So Cruz can go fuck himself with his sympathy for our troops.

By no stretch of the imagination are these former Gitmo residents good people. They are violent assholes. But they were violent assholes who were part of an army of the then-government of Afghanistan, whether we liked that government or not. And they have been held, without charge, without trial, for 12-13 years. They were tortured (or interrogated in an enhanced way, if that's the lie you tell yourself). At least one, Fazl, is wanted by the United Nations for war crimes, but we haven't allowed him to be charged and tried on that allegation.

John McCain lost his shit, as usual, on Nation, Face Bob Schieffer, in what was the oldest hour of television perhaps ever. Said Sen. McCain, with all the subtlety of the end of last night's Game of Thrones, "It is disturbing that these individuals would have the ability to reenter the fight, and they are big, high level people, possibly responsible for the deaths of thousands." Those "thousands" were Shia Muslims in Afghanistan. So let's get these guys before the Hague for some war crimes proseuctions, right? And you can be sure that the North Vietnamese thought McCain was responsible for many, many deaths, too, but they let him the fuck go after five-and-a-half years as a POW.

That's why nations have the Geneva Conventions. Because this shit is complicated. But we just had to ignore those agreements because we faced a threat that no one had ever faced before in the history of ever and no one ever had it as bad as us. So we have cursed ourselves with Guantanamo Bay, a greater cause of terrorism and anti-Americanism than a 1000 released Taliban fighters

Do a thought experiment. Change Obama to Bush. Change Republicans criticizing the President to Democrats. Now, ask yourself: How many variations on the word "vagina" would Dick Cheney be using to condemn Democrats as hating the troops if they don't want to bring our prisoners home.

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JustAnotherGen

(31,798 posts)
1. Again and again and again
Mon Jun 2, 2014, 03:42 PM
Jun 2014
Ted Cruz was all concerned about how the soldiers who captured the Taliban members might feel about the exchange: "Can you imagine what (Bergdahl) would say to his fallen comrades who lost their lives to stop these people who were responsible, either directly or indirectly, for threatening or taking U.S. civilian lives." Yes, their feelings matter. Except, of course, that no Americans died capturing them. Yeah, see, Mullah Norullah Noori turned himself in. Mohammed Nabi Omari was tricked into being arrested at an airport. Khirullah Khairkwha was captured by Pakistani forces when he was trying to negotiate a surrender. He was transferred to American custody. Mullah Mohammad Fazl surrendered to U.S. forces. Abdul Haq Wasiq said he could provide the U.S. with Taliban leader Mullah Omar's location, but he was arrested by the U.S. So Cruz can go fuck himself with his sympathy for our troops.
 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
2. Don't waste anybody's time and energy worrying about the Undead and Zombies
Mon Jun 2, 2014, 03:44 PM
Jun 2014

aka McCain and Teabaggers....

MADem

(135,425 posts)
3. The Rude Pundit's rant would have been perfectly fine without the "Ooooh, naughty bits!" stuff.
Mon Jun 2, 2014, 03:45 PM
Jun 2014

He always has to do that NSFW thing. I know it has a huge following, but sometimes it's just not needed.

monmouth3

(3,871 posts)
4. I absolutely agree with you. So many places I'd like to send his stuff but don't because of it..n/t
Mon Jun 2, 2014, 03:59 PM
Jun 2014

MADem

(135,425 posts)
5. That's it, precisely....I can handle the language, but I know many people who would
Mon Jun 2, 2014, 04:10 PM
Jun 2014

like to read the essence of his ideas without all the gratuitous and sophmoric sex and body parts and who-does-what-to-whom references.

I suppose it's his product, and he's carved out a niche. I wish he'd be a bit more sparing with the references, though. Some spices are more effective with a light touch. There's "rude," and there's "grossly rude," I guess!

monmouth3

(3,871 posts)
6. I'd love to send some of his stuff on and edit out the bad parts but not sure that's kosher..LOL..n/
Mon Jun 2, 2014, 04:31 PM
Jun 2014

MADem

(135,425 posts)
7. Naaah, ya really can't do that and be cool with his intellectual property.
Mon Jun 2, 2014, 06:09 PM
Jun 2014

It's like those guys painting higher necklines on the high school girls' graduation pictures!

MADem

(135,425 posts)
9. Good news, everyone--check this out!!!
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 07:15 PM
Jun 2014
http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2014/06/regarding-republicans-and-exchanged_2.html


Regarding Republicans and the Exchanged Taliban Members (Virgin Version)


We should feel...I dunno...validated! Special!! Anyway, I can send the link to a few friends now!!!!

MADem

(135,425 posts)
11. It's such a brilliantly articulated argument...it just doesn't need any of the usual garnish! nt
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 08:22 PM
Jun 2014

monmouth3

(3,871 posts)
14. Oh they would never admit it to me. I'm the only Dem in this very large Irish Catholic
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 08:58 PM
Jun 2014

group of Fox watching people. I just don't get it. I sent the link about that clerk who broke into the courthouse with the election results and my aunt wrote me that that was a Democratic/Liberal trick. I guess it just didn't happen for her and I was wrong. I was not stunned as I should have been, just their ignorance is what is stunning...

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