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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAny room for Moyers, Maddow, Moore under the bus?
Glenn Greenwald, a former Constitutional and civil rights litigator, is now --was--a columnist at The Guardian, where he writes about civil liberties, national security and US political and media culture. He is the author of three New York Times Bestselling books: two on the Bush administration's executive power and foreign policy abuses, and his 2011 book, With Liberty and Justice for Some, an indictment of America's two-tiered system of justice.
Greenwald was named by The Atlantic as one of the 25 most influential political commentators in the nation, and by Newsweek as one of the nation's top 10 opinion writers. He is the recipient of the first annual I.F. Stone Award for Independent Journalism, and is the winner of the 2010 Online Journalism Association Award for his investigative work on the arrest and oppressive detention of Bradley Manning. He was a finalist for the 2011 National Magazine Awards for online political writing.
MSNBC's Rachel Maddow called Greenwald "the American Lefts most fearless political commentator". Filmmaker Michael Moore said: "The first thing I do when I turn on the computer in the morning is go to Glenn Greenwalds blog to see what he said. He is truly one of our greatest writers right now." And Bill Moyers described him as "the most important voice to have entered the political discourse in years."
Whisp
(24,096 posts)grasswire
(50,130 posts)Cha
(297,032 posts)don't let Moyers, Maddow, or Moore do my thinking for me.
defacto7
(13,485 posts)mwrguy
(3,245 posts)it happens
Cha
(297,032 posts)Libertarians are posing as liberals and trying to RATFUCK the left.Their primary goal is to undermine the Democratic Party and hand elections to Republicans.Their strategy consists of...
1) ingratiating themselves with the progressive media
2) Pushing the meme that Democrats are just as bad (or worse) then Republicans
3) Dismissing Racism as "identity politics"
4) Promoting far right wing politicians as "true progressives"
5 convincing disgruntled progressives to vote 3rd party or not vote at all
6) Attack traditional Democratic Voters & their issues
snips//
dkos
Glenn Greenwald Unethically Taped Witnesses While Working for Matt Hale, White Supremacist.
snip..
"Mr. Hale, for his role in the shootings, was sued by a number of survivors. This included a case filed by two teenage Orthodox Jewish boys. And another case filed by a Black minister. These people were selected by Benjamin Smith because they looked like the religious/ethnic minorities they are.
And Glenn Greenwald called them 'odious and repugnant' for suing his client--"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002101211
Only it's Greenwald who is "odious and repugnant".. whatever he's posing as.. here he is now trying to keep himself relevant and suppressing the vote in 2012.. when he "expertly previewed the 2012 election"..
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5042077
Tikki
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
sheshe2
(83,710 posts)Thanks Cha!
Egnever
(21,506 posts)goldent
(1,582 posts)progressoid
(49,963 posts)He's one of them radical lefties ya know.
I am pretty much where Bill Moyers is I think. I have questions where he has questions it seems. I wonder where his radical is. I probably have watched all his PBS shows the last couple decades.
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What is Bill Moyers radical about? Maybe it's a definition newer than what I am accustomed.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Is a radical lefty.
That word you keep using does not mean what you think it does
progressoid
(49,963 posts)Perhaps I should have used the sarcasm thingie about him. I think we're on the same page about Bill. He's kind of a hero around our house.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)You have to follow a consistent script provided by one "side" or another these days.
You can't for example support gender equality while not being enthusiastic about gun control. You can't agree with some libertarians that the government shouldn't be snooping through your private laundry but agree with progressives that business need to be heavily regulated.
You can't, in other words, think for yourself and have a multiplicity of opinions, including those that might contradict whatever political orthodoxy you're supposed to subscribe to..... There be dragons.
Leme
(1,092 posts)maybe that journalists now need to be pigeon holed? only report things from a narrow perspective? only report on a narrow range of things?
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what makes it a "have to" function?
goldent
(1,582 posts)who aren't interested in being a member of a political party.
The UK political parties do not take a standard on a number of issues, saying they are matters of conscience.
kelliekat44
(7,759 posts)Leme
(1,092 posts)he went up a bit in my estimation, unless those quotes were out of context.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)Your insinuation is very Authoritarian in nature. Says more about you than anyone who might disagree w/ a commentator.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)What saddens me however about the commentary about Snowden and Greenwald are the purists who will slam them for having a non-pure belief 5, 10 or so years ago and so that automatically disqualifies them to comment on anything else (and especially stuff the BOG finds objectionable).
We used to be able to view the nuances of people and their positions.
No more.
Now its everyone must think like us or they're smeared with shifty labels like Obama hater or attention whore etc.
This place has gotten pretty sucky when there's even any sad snark in an OP about some damn fine progressives like these three.
Leme
(1,092 posts)but what bus? and who is driving it ? rather vague to me. Maybe to some here it would be apparent you are talking about the DU bus...or the Democratic bus...or the liberal bus...or the media bus... or something else. I just cannot quite tell.
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)that doesn't match the "ideologically pure" so they are literally dead to them (run over by the group "bus" .
Maddow, Moyers and Moore have expressed their admiration for Greenwald so now the small but VERY vocal BOG (members of the Barack Obama Group), must hate these three liberal icons because they've transgressed by admiring a person who is presently one of their ideological "enemies".
Hope that makes sense.
Someone else will probably come along and explain it better.
Leme
(1,092 posts)goldent
(1,582 posts)problems. You don't throw them under the bus as much as subtly bump then into the street as the bus goes by. Problem solved.
Corruption Inc
(1,568 posts)The propagandists, repukes, narcissists and knee-jerk MSMedia responders that have infested this site could care less about anything making sense.
malokvale77
(4,879 posts)If it doesn't come from the WH or the obamadiary it is a pack of lies.
villager
(26,001 posts)Perhaps it's an "articulated" bus...
grasswire
(50,130 posts)....pile on Maddow, Moyers or Moore for their support of Greenwald.