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riverbendviewgal

(4,252 posts)
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 12:03 PM Jun 2014

The USA is the land of importunity

We used to call the USA the land of opportunity. But with FATCA, the USA has become the land of importunity.

The US is forcing all the banks in the world to give them banking information. To say this is an importunate demand is a bit of an understatement.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/business/banking/77000-foreign-banks-to-share-tax-information-with-irs/2182607

WASHINGTON — More than 77,000 foreign banks, investment funds and other financial institutions have agreed to share information about U.S. account holders with the Internal Revenue Service as part of a crackdown on offshore tax evasion, the Treasury Department announced Monday.

The list includes 515 Russian financial institutions.

Nearly 70 countries have agreed to share information from their banks as part of a U.S. law that targets Americans hiding assets overseas.

Participating countries include the world's financial giants, as well as many places where Americans have traditionally hidden assets, including Switzerland, the Cayman Islands and the Bahamas.

Starting next March, these financial institutions have agreed to supply the IRS with names, account numbers and balances for accounts controlled by U.S. taxpayers.

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The USA is the land of importunity (Original Post) riverbendviewgal Jun 2014 OP
On entrepreuneurship, still far more opportunities than in France. mylye2222 Jun 2014 #1
Interesting. I don't have a problem with the IRS getting information MineralMan Jun 2014 #2
Our Mandate in Canada in regards to this riverbendviewgal Jun 2014 #3
This applies to immigrants in the USA as well riverbendviewgal Jun 2014 #4
Under US law (and international law) nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #6
USA is the only country in the world that uses Citizen based taxation riverbendviewgal Jun 2014 #7
Hacienda is getting information from the US nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #8
Actually I have less of a problem with this nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #5
 

mylye2222

(2,992 posts)
1. On entrepreuneurship, still far more opportunities than in France.
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 12:09 PM
Jun 2014

Unlike here, initiative is not considered as weakness.

MineralMan

(146,241 posts)
2. Interesting. I don't have a problem with the IRS getting information
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 12:15 PM
Jun 2014

on the 1% who are hiding assets outside of the US, somehow. In fact, I think it may have a salutary effect. Perhaps they should publish a list of those accounts, names, and balances in a newspaper of record, so we can all see them.

riverbendviewgal

(4,252 posts)
3. Our Mandate in Canada in regards to this
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 12:15 PM
Jun 2014

To defend Canadian sovereignty and protect all persons in Canada from the attempts of other countries to impose their ‘extra-territorial legislation’ on Canada. This includes, but is not limited to, defending Canadian sovereignty against the governments of foreign countries and from the Canadian government.

http://www.adcs-adsc.ca/

riverbendviewgal

(4,252 posts)
4. This applies to immigrants in the USA as well
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 12:18 PM
Jun 2014

and all green card holders , past and present and snowbirds. and those duals who live permanently in other countries, whose local banks are their only banks.

And remember this. There are many countries that will be wanting to do the same... It is expected to be reciprocal...


Check this out. http://www.accountingtoday.com/news/irs_watch/irs-introduces-tool-for-checking-fatca-foreign-bank-registration-70861-1.html#read

So the modern equivalent of Mordor's "Mark of the Beast" has provided a quick way to check if you have one. Get your GIIN before we sanction you is the message.

BTW, Have you noticed that the IRS has recognized the State of Palestine in the first list of 77,000 compliant little FFIs and that a Swedish candy company is registered? This thing just gets weirder and more strange. Wonder when this monster will blow up.

...and where does the IRS get the resources to manage the 500,000 FFIs its FAQ page thinks might register? How many agents does that require. Maybe those 16,000 ObamaCare gate keepers will be given additional global responsibilities.

riverbendviewgal

(4,252 posts)
7. USA is the only country in the world that uses Citizen based taxation
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 12:35 PM
Jun 2014

the rest of the world uses Resident based taxation.


Soon it will change... Soon China will want to know all Chinese citizens, dual or not , US banks accounts., even if they never intend to go back to China.... How many Chinese American, green card holders.... children of Chinese..... and have the rest of the countries do this.. Do you think many will be investing or moving to the USA after DATCA comes into affect Some say that this will make countries get off the US dollar. Interesting.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
8. Hacienda is getting information from the US
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 12:40 PM
Jun 2014

I guess I keep missing the memo as to Mexico being the 51st state of the Union.

http://www.cnnexpansion.com/economia/2013/04/09/el-sat-controlara-mas-tus-inversiones

This is part of money laundering laws that are being enacted, not just in the US.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
5. Actually I have less of a problem with this
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 12:22 PM
Jun 2014

Since people have used tax heavens to hide assets for literally over 100 years. As to reciprocal, it is.

Hacienda is getting the info of Mexican nationals in us banks.

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