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phantom power

(25,966 posts)
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 12:12 PM Jun 2014

Alabama Bible school puts Hitler quote on billboard to encourage youth indoctrination

It was a "mistake," you see. Notice that they literally credit Hitler right up there on the billboard. Also, extra credit for mentioning Herbert fucking Hoover as their 2nd choice.

One for the "our country has lost its goddamned mind" files.

The Ledger-Enquirer in Columbus, Georgia reported on Monday, that Opelika-based Life Savers Ministries had rented the billboard near Village Mall in Auburn from Lamar Advertising.

“He alone, who owns the youth, gains the future,” the billboard says and attributes the quote to Hitler.

...

The 1935 quote was said in reference to the Hitler Youth program, which indoctrinated children in preparation for joining the Nazi Party.

Life Savers Ministries founder James Anderegg told the Ledger-Enquirer that it had been a mistake to use the Hitler quote, and that the billboard would be taken down on Tuesday.

“We are pulling the billboard and certainly never intended to cause confusion. … Herbert Hoover would have been a far better one to quote when he said, ‘Children are our most valuable resource,’” Anderegg said. “We are a children’s organization and had honorable intentions and nothing less.”

Coincidentally, Anderegg is a German name meaning “at the corner.”

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/06/03/alabama-bible-school-puts-hitler-quote-on-billboard-to-encourage-youth-indoctrination/

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Alabama Bible school puts Hitler quote on billboard to encourage youth indoctrination (Original Post) phantom power Jun 2014 OP
Seems legit. I think that's also in the intro to Mötley Crüe's "Shout at the Devil". PeaceNikki Jun 2014 #1
Hook 'em while their young lame54 Jun 2014 #2
Write it on "The Wall," perhaps. MineralMan Jun 2014 #3
Fits right in with the religion so why not quote the uber Christian of all time Exposethefrauds Jun 2014 #4
Uber Christian? MosheFeingold Jun 2014 #35
"I like pie, and I like controlling young minds"--Joseph Stalin DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2014 #5
What, you got something against pie? Ikonoklast Jun 2014 #37
It's always a "mistake"... atreides1 Jun 2014 #6
If they felt comfortable enough to paste Hitler quotes up on a billboard... phantom power Jun 2014 #11
Ah geez. pinto Jun 2014 #7
WTF? "Honorable Intentions"? SomethingFishy Jun 2014 #8
Perhaps they thought sarisataka Jun 2014 #9
Or as Lewis Black calls it "Nazi tourettes" Initech Jun 2014 #10
OFFS. progressoid Jun 2014 #12
"Train up a child in the way he should go" so he knows how to quote Hitler. tclambert Jun 2014 #13
Worked out well for Hitler........and Hoover joanbarnes Jun 2014 #14
"I never went to school, so I never growed up to read and write too good" - Charles Manson DefenseLawyer Jun 2014 #15
What "honorable intentions" are there for an attributed Hitler quote? Renew Deal Jun 2014 #16
If I had to guess at their misguided goal... Xithras Jun 2014 #18
That hadn't occurred to me, but now that you say it, it makes sense. Jim Lane Jun 2014 #38
I still don't know if that's what they were actually going for... Xithras Jun 2014 #40
Reminds me of the last pope somehow rickyhall Jun 2014 #17
Google is available on the "internets." kairos12 Jun 2014 #19
Where was Lamar Outdoor Advertising in all this? jmowreader Jun 2014 #20
Right above a McDonalds........ Half-Century Man Jun 2014 #21
It amazes me packman Jun 2014 #22
Um....just because Hitler was evil... robbob Jun 2014 #23
Every organized effort wants/needs young people to be part of it The2ndWheel Jun 2014 #30
That assumes that children will never at some point think for themselves. liberal_at_heart Jun 2014 #41
Evangelicals sure love them that fascism. Fred Sanders Jun 2014 #24
These dudes couldn't have been that stupid, could they? (nt) nyabingi Jun 2014 #25
That's just flat out sick damnedifIknow Jun 2014 #26
Next they'll use a quote from the KKK. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2014 #27
I notice that not only do they use Hitler, they also use that dreadful line from Proverbs intaglio Jun 2014 #28
'‘Children are our most valuable resource...'' DeSwiss Jun 2014 #29
A mistake? Aber nein, aber nein, aber nein!!!!!! DFW Jun 2014 #31
This kind of ignorance just boggles… toby jo Jun 2014 #32
Beyond Disturbing. colsohlibgal Jun 2014 #33
I wish I could say this is surprising, but it really isn't. Behind the Aegis Jun 2014 #34
Yes, it takes 3-4 generations for humans to start forgetting. We're about there. phantom power Jun 2014 #36
This truly shows the depths of fascism that this nation has reached. PowerToThePeople Jun 2014 #39

MineralMan

(146,192 posts)
3. Write it on "The Wall," perhaps.
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 12:18 PM
Jun 2014

It's interesting that this group thinks quoting Hitler is something worth putting on a billboard. All in all, we're just another brick in the wall.

MosheFeingold

(3,051 posts)
35. Uber Christian?
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 03:20 PM
Jun 2014

Well, that's not exactly fair.

Hitler was certainly born and raised Roman Catholic, but professed no strong Christian beliefs as an adult, except as a means to an end.

His practices favored the occult and his writings favored what we would now call "Islamist" (a religion he favored because it was, in his twisted view, a religion of "warriors" and more fit for Aryans than a "Jewish-based" religion). In fact, Hitler spent long chapters bemoaning the turning away Muslim invaders at the Gates of Vienna, for this reason.

In short, his religion was opportunistic -- whatever fit his racist views, his need of the day, and who he needed to persuade.

And yes, I am Jewish and not a giant fan of the Roman Church, but we can't blame them for Hitler.

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
5. "I like pie, and I like controlling young minds"--Joseph Stalin
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 12:20 PM
Jun 2014

That's what I would've gone with. Stalin may have even said it at one time or another, who knows.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
37. What, you got something against pie?
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 05:14 PM
Jun 2014

"Pie is the opiate of the masses. Here, have another slice while I tell you why the running dog lackeys of the counter-revolution must be eliminated." - Betty Crocker.

phantom power

(25,966 posts)
11. If they felt comfortable enough to paste Hitler quotes up on a billboard...
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 12:34 PM
Jun 2014

it suggests some spooky shit, regarding how people around there think, and what kids at that school are learning.

SomethingFishy

(4,876 posts)
8. WTF? "Honorable Intentions"?
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 12:23 PM
Jun 2014

I can't for the life of me think of when using an Adolph Hitler quote on a billboard could be seen as "honorable".

sarisataka

(18,222 posts)
9. Perhaps they thought
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 12:24 PM
Jun 2014

It was a different Adolph Hitler? You know the one that rescued orphans and puppies...

 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
15. "I never went to school, so I never growed up to read and write too good" - Charles Manson
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 01:18 PM
Jun 2014

These billboards practically write themselves

Xithras

(16,191 posts)
18. If I had to guess at their misguided goal...
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 01:39 PM
Jun 2014

They have a Hitler quote followed by a Bible verse. I'd guess that they were aiming for something along the lines of "If you don't raise your child according to the Bible, someone like Hitler will be glad to train them for you."

That's just a guess, but it's the only thing I can come up with

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
38. That hadn't occurred to me, but now that you say it, it makes sense.
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 11:54 AM
Jun 2014

Thanks for that perspective!

Xithras

(16,191 posts)
40. I still don't know if that's what they were actually going for...
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 01:29 PM
Jun 2014

...but that's the only reasonably sane reason I could come up with to explain why someone could have done that. If I'm right, that's the worst message presentation I've ever seen.

Of course, the simple answer is still that they were a bunch of idiots who just didn't see any problem with quoting Hitler.

jmowreader

(50,453 posts)
20. Where was Lamar Outdoor Advertising in all this?
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 01:41 PM
Jun 2014
"Freedom of the press is guaranteed only to those who own one." - A.J. Liebling

Everyone who sells advertising to the public has the right and pleasure of inspecting any ad presented to it, and is allowed to reject any and all ads that don't meet its standards. Billboard companies like this one have an extra responsibility in that they must verify the legality of an ad in its requested location - a beer company can't buy a board that can be seen from a school, for instance - so they check every ad buy pretty closely.

Why, pray tell, didn't someone at Lamar's standards department say something like, "while we respect your First Amendment freedoms, you must also respect ours and we will not have our company associated with the most evil man of the 20th Century. A lot of people have said the same basic thing as your Hitler quote, and until you choose one of them and submit it to us we're not putting this poster into production."?

And then there is the issue of letting your kid go to a Bible school run by people who quote Hitler in the first place.
 

packman

(16,296 posts)
22. It amazes me
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 01:44 PM
Jun 2014

that someone, no matter how stupid, can put something up , then reference to Hitler and not think (?) , "You know, maybe I shouldn't do this." Then his supervisor saying, "Yah, sure that's OK".



When can we expect the firing to commence?

robbob

(3,514 posts)
23. Um....just because Hitler was evil...
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 01:52 PM
Jun 2014

....doesn't mean he was wrong.

Hitler wanted to indoctrinate young minds to follow the Nazi philosophy which led Germany down the path of unspeakable evil which we all recognize now.

This minister would say THEY want to indoctrinate young minds in the "path of righteousness", etc. etc. in order to perform good deeds.

That being said, all in all a really really poor decision. And yes, I agree, what WERE they thinking?


<on edit> before I get jumped on as a Hitler supporter, let me clarify when I typed "doesn't mean he was wrong" it was in reference to the quote cited. Not in reference to genocide, warmongering and the millions upon millions of lives destroyed by his insane dream of an uber-race of supermen.

The2ndWheel

(7,947 posts)
30. Every organized effort wants/needs young people to be part of it
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 02:53 PM
Jun 2014

That's how the organization grows and is sustained over time. Hitler wanted young minds, for whatever Hitler wanted. McDonald's wants kids to eat their food so they can make more money down the line. The government wants to mold children into what the government needs them to be to pay taxes in the future, in order to sustain a functioning government, which is done through public schools.

The use of a Hitler quote, probably not the best idea. Whatever they may have come up with would've been the same idea though. Everyone goes after the kids. That's why parents want to protect kids from advertising. That way, the parent has more influence over their child. It's one of the more basic drives. Any parent, in any species, does it. The modern world has broken that down as much as it can, because corporations and governments need your kid.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
41. That assumes that children will never at some point think for themselves.
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 02:12 PM
Jun 2014

Some never question what they've been taught and indeed follow exactly what they've been taught. Others start to wonder if there is a different way, start to question, and form their own ideas and opinions.

intaglio

(8,170 posts)
28. I notice that not only do they use Hitler, they also use that dreadful line from Proverbs
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 02:35 PM
Jun 2014

The one used by the dreadful Michael and Debi Pearl to justify the abuse of children.

22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it

Funny that they never quote more of that chapter of Proverbs.
22:1 A good name is rather to be chosen than great riches, and loving favour rather than silver and gold.
22:2 The rich and poor meet together: the LORD is the maker of them all
22:3 A prudent man foreseeth the evil, and hideth himself: but the simple pass on, and are punished.
22:4 By humility and the fear of the LORD are riches, and honour, and life.
 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
29. '‘Children are our most valuable resource...''
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 02:42 PM
Jun 2014
- Resource? You mean like bauxite or iron ore? And we wonder why the country's screwed up.....

K&R

DFW

(54,058 posts)
31. A mistake? Aber nein, aber nein, aber nein!!!!!!
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 03:04 PM
Jun 2014

FINALLY a group of so-called "Christians" are willing to publicly state from whom they get their inspiration. I can only wish their counterparts in the Senate and the House of Representatives would find the courage to admit it as well.

Behind the Aegis

(53,833 posts)
34. I wish I could say this is surprising, but it really isn't.
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 03:19 PM
Jun 2014

The "edge" of Hitler is wearing off in the minds of many. The levels of his depravity and hate are no longer shocking to many, and they simply don't see "the big deal" in using quotes by him or creating assignments asking "Is the Holocaust a Hoax?".

phantom power

(25,966 posts)
36. Yes, it takes 3-4 generations for humans to start forgetting. We're about there.
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 04:05 PM
Jun 2014

You can even see it in some of the replies to this post. "Hey, he wasn't wrong." Which is true, of course, but I'm old enough to remember when nobody would want to associate themselves in any way with anything even once-removed from Hitler or the Nazis. And the few exceptions would never have dared in public.

So true, the world is beginning to forget. And also just in time for us to forget the economic lessons from the same period. Which puts us in position for the rise of a new hard-right nationalism.

 

PowerToThePeople

(9,610 posts)
39. This truly shows the depths of fascism that this nation has reached.
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 11:58 AM
Jun 2014

When Adolf Hitler quotes start showing up on billboards with an American flag in the background, you know we are way down the rabbit hole.

Hopefully this goes viral and opens some eyes.

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