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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsChinese general: U.S. foreign policy has ‘erectile dysfunction’.
Zhu Chenghu is a bald, combative man with an unremarkable appearance but a remarkable sense of the inflammatory. The Chinese two-star general, the dean of Chinas National Defense University and one of the nations leading military minds, displayed that predilection once more a few days ago.
U.S. Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel had just delivered a speech criticizing Chinas aggression in its maritime disputes with its Asian neighbors. The speech made Zhu very unhappy. The Americans are making very, very important strategic mistakes right now, he told the Wall Street Journal.
He called Hagel hypocritical. Whatever the Chinese do is illegal, and whatever the Americans do is right, he said. If you take China as an enemy, China will absolutely become the enemy of the U.S. If the Americans take China as an enemy, we Chinese have to take steps to make ourselves a qualified enemy of the U.S. But if the Americans take China as a friend, China will be a very loyal friend.
But Zhu wasnt done with U.S. officials yet. He made additional remarks on a Chinese-language television station in Singapore, according to the Wall Street Journal. He said he wasnt convinced the United States, which he called a declining power, would intervene in any territorial disputes between China and any of its Asian neighbors. His evidence: Ukraine.
We can see from the situation in Ukraine this kind of ED which the Journal reports he explained meant extended deployment has become the male type of ED problem: erectile dysfunction.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/06/03/chinese-general-u-s-foreign-policy-has-erectile-dysfunction/
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Not gonna happen.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)LadyHawkAZ
(6,199 posts)And hasn't made a return appearance.
malaise
(268,664 posts)to students at Kent State or treatment meted out to the Occupy Movement?
Discuss Tiananmen Square versus Gitmo or the illegal prisons all over the planet.
Aren't you tired of violations of people's rights by all powers as opposed to just condemning those that aren't American?
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)not aware of 10s of thousands of students (possibly hundreds of thousands) of American students then sent to forced work camps.
I am not aware of thousands upon thousands of American activists under house arrest as a preemptive strike. (Guess what's happening in China right now?)
Also, I can google "June 4th" freely.
The Chinese cannot.
So, tomorrow, I will break a little bottle in front of the Chinese flag on the Parkway here. I will not be the only one.
randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]If you don't give yourself the same benefit of a doubt you'd give anyone else, you're cheating someone.[/center][/font][hr]
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]Everything is a satellite to some other thing.[/center][/font][hr]
dawg
(10,621 posts)Call people names when there's nothing else you can do.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Look up what our officers and pols wrote of Spain and even England...oh back in 1895
dawg
(10,621 posts)The Chinese navy only has 1 carrier group. Their zone of military influence ends at the water's edge.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)We are indeed a declining power.
dawg
(10,621 posts)a large-scale conflict with an enemy using comparable weapons systems to those of the U.S.
For that matter, China certainly would not want to somehow provoke Japan into re-militarizing. There are elements there who would very much love to do so.
I think the General's statements have more to do with internal Chinese politics than they do with anything directly to do with policy.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Things are not static. And China is expanding while we are starting to contract. We are at the high five point.
dawg
(10,621 posts)They are experiencing a relatively high economic growth rate as their country continues to modernize. But a significant portion of the West is still living in middle-ages conditions, and much of the country's growth is the result of cheap-labor manufacturing jobs assembling products for Western multinationals.
In order to truly challenge the U.S. & Europe on a per capita basis, huge economic and political reforms must take place. A fascistic, bureaucratic society simply cannot innovate at the pace of a society with more freedoms. It's the very reason Europe surpassed the Chinese in the first place. Their technological lead was squandered by the tight grip of the Mandarins and the Emperor's they served.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)The Brits made this same exact argument about the US 100 years ago.
They were stuck in coal while we adopted oil. China is adopting renewables at a very high rate. Their steel production already surpassed us.
So I would not be so cocksure there
dawg
(10,621 posts)No, of course they didn't make that argument.
If anything, we were a freer, more open society than the mother country. And that, along with our bounty of natural resources and our isolation from European wars, is why we were ascendant.
China doesn't have an advantage over us in resources. If anything, we still enjoy the advantage there. To the extent they are adopting renewables, that is a good thing. I wish we would do the same. But from a geopolitical standpoint, we are very close to being energy independent. We are also pretty much food and water independent, which is huge. Climate change will mess with that, but it will mess with their situation as well.
The Chinese banking system is terrifying. Loans get made and renewed based on political considerations and regulators refuse to force the banks' hands when it comes to liquidating bad loans. Projects get approved that have no underlying economic reason to exist, simply because it serves the interests of some government official. There's no market-accountability like what we have in the West.
The Fascist model does not work. It has been proven over and over again.
War Horse
(931 posts)China is indeed a rising power. With a whole lot of internal problems. We'd better not forget about neither.
malaise
(268,664 posts)how much of US aggression in Iraq and Afghanistan was financed by China.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)Perhaps you didn't know. But it is shocking to read in the context of history.
War Horse
(931 posts)Arkana
(24,347 posts)Seriously, this is playground-level shit.
randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]If you don't give yourself the same benefit of a doubt you'd give anyone else, you're cheating someone.[/center][/font][hr]
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)Lee-Lee
(6,324 posts)Tell me again how the whole world isn't a patriarchal society?
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)but a remarkable sense of the inflammatory."
Hmm.
Jeneral2885
(1,354 posts)No one worries about the effects of neo-liberalism that the US and the West have exported?