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I think Obama wanted this fight with these morons (Original Post) malaise Jun 2014 OP
You have a point, including some Democrats, especially the ones that voted for these wars, along lostincalifornia Jun 2014 #1
Senator Dianne Feinstein comes to mind nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #4
On what standing would anyone sue? nt Lee-Lee Jun 2014 #7
The NDA. There is the matter of the signing statement nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #10
But somebody has to have standing to file a case Lee-Lee Jun 2014 #12
We will see, but I am willing to wager they will try nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #15
DiFi is a neo-con on steroids malaise Jun 2014 #14
You know, I don't know if neocon or opportunist nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #16
Good point malaise Jun 2014 #17
nope he didn't, and since she voted for the patriot act and all the other bullshit garbage that gave lostincalifornia Jun 2014 #19
We are talking perceptions nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #20
I wasn't arguing what she said, I was saying that she was full of BS, not you lostincalifornia Jun 2014 #23
As I wrote, it's the perception management nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #24
agreed lostincalifornia Jun 2014 #25
The Prez has got to know everything, and I mean babylonsister Jun 2014 #2
From the dad spoke one of the languages of the region malaise Jun 2014 #13
These prisoners would have to be released anyways when the war ends. muntrv Jun 2014 #3
A war was never declared. former9thward Jun 2014 #8
So was that amorphous word terrorist malaise Jun 2014 #11
small point Leme Jun 2014 #5
You may be right, malaise? kentuck Jun 2014 #6
The President always plays the long game underthematrix Jun 2014 #9
Thanks ALBliberal Jun 2014 #18
I was a bit surprised at the press conference announcing Bowe's release betsuni Jun 2014 #21
The father even thanked Allah Politicalboi Jun 2014 #22
Uh oh... pacalo Jun 2014 #26

lostincalifornia

(3,639 posts)
1. You have a point, including some Democrats, especially the ones that voted for these wars, along
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 08:10 PM
Jun 2014

with the patriot act

I suspect the President will do as much as he can without the sorry excuse they call congress

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
10. The NDA. There is the matter of the signing statement
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 08:31 PM
Jun 2014

And Art. 2

I am no lawyer, but I think tje constitution trumps it. And some folks have been looking for literally anything to go after Obama. I do not agree with a few of the policies, but I think Art. 2 trumps some of the legislation passed by congress to prevent the closure of Gitmo

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
12. But somebody has to have standing to file a case
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 08:37 PM
Jun 2014

How does anyone have standing in this matter?

When Dennis Kucinich tried to sue the President over a similar violation with Libya, involving the War Powers Act, it was thrown out because as a member of Congress he couldn't demonstrate sufficient standing to bring the lawsuit.

I doubt anyone could to sue the President over this matter either.

lostincalifornia

(3,639 posts)
19. nope he didn't, and since she voted for the patriot act and all the other bullshit garbage that gave
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 09:29 PM
Jun 2014

the executive branch a lot of flexibility, I doubt it will reach the SC

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
20. We are talking perceptions
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 09:43 PM
Jun 2014

She did go to the cameras and stated that "President Obama broke the law." That is a direct quote a few hours old

And here is a link

http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/03/politics/bergdahl-swap-legality/

RW land is also crazy with it

lostincalifornia

(3,639 posts)
23. I wasn't arguing what she said, I was saying that she was full of BS, not you
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 09:57 PM
Jun 2014

And because of all the garbage she has participated in through the years, the executive branch has never had so much power

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
24. As I wrote, it's the perception management
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 10:00 PM
Jun 2014

At the very least they will try.

There are fights in the shadows right now that make House of Cards seem like a documentary. Why I have not watched more than a few snippets.

babylonsister

(170,962 posts)
2. The Prez has got to know everything, and I mean
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 08:15 PM
Jun 2014

EVERYTHING he proposes will be criticized outright, but this one took me by surprise. I keep asking how low will they go, but now I realize no one knows!

malaise

(267,797 posts)
13. From the dad spoke one of the languages of the region
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 08:39 PM
Jun 2014

had a beard and appeared sympathetic towards the people of the region I knew this was coming.

But both Gitmo closing and end of war prison exchanges are coming so I say please proceed ReTHUDs - expose your ignorance.

kentuck

(110,950 posts)
6. You may be right, malaise?
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 08:27 PM
Jun 2014

He may be daring them to impeach him? That would backfire bigtime on the GOP, I think, if they attempted that?

betsuni

(25,122 posts)
21. I was a bit surprised at the press conference announcing Bowe's release
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 09:43 PM
Jun 2014

because Obama was all touchy-feely with the parents and clearly directly involved and invested -- like dangling a nice piece of string in front of a kittycat. Teasing! Let's hope those cats bite the hand that feeds them.

pacalo

(24,721 posts)
26. Uh oh...
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 10:54 PM
Jun 2014


I'm watching the Last Word right now, seeing a clip of some extremists enacting their own "civil war" against the government, with scads of young children on the front lines using wooden stakes for weapons. It's just another reminder of how our country is getting more & more irrational due to unchecked, over-the-top Republican rhetoric. This nuttiness could have been prevented, had Bush/Cheney been held accountable for their actions. Their shoot-from-the-hip way of doing business would have been properly nipped in the bud & stigmatized as creepy.

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