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digonswine

(1,485 posts)
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 08:46 PM Jun 2014

What do you think of this?

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/inspired-by-horror-character-12-year-olds-accused-of-vicious-attack/

Apparently, two 12 year-olds conspired to kill a classmate. They succeeded in everything but an actual death. They are being tried(as of now) as adults.
They could face 65 years as adults. I think there will be a hearing deciding if they should be tried as adults.

Personally--I would not trust someone of that age to babysit my dog.

Should they be tried as adults? Is there some in-between system where they are tried as juveniles?

I know that someone of that age does not possess a developed brain--yet the crime appears to be quite horrific.

I have a problem with holding the young accountable for adult crimes, yet--they clearly need to be kept sequestered from the public.
It should be noted that, as of now, there is not a whole lot of information on this.

I think trying them as adults--with a possible 65 yr sentence, would be inappropriate. I feel like there is no good solution to this for anyone involved.


"WAUKESHA, Wisconsin - Two 12-year-old girls from Waukesha, Wisconsin, are in a juvenile detention center tonight. They are charged with attempting to kill another 12-year-old girl, who was stabbed Saturday 19 times.

On Tuesday, an attorney for one of the accused said she shows signs of mental illness.

The brutality of the crime is hard to square with the ages of the accused. The two 12-year-olds now facing adult charges of attempted homicide."

It appears that they were doing this in some homage to some online character.

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What do you think of this? (Original Post) digonswine Jun 2014 OP
They need psychiatric help. JaneyVee Jun 2014 #1
To say the least! digonswine Jun 2014 #2
Agreed. NavyDem Jun 2014 #3
"What little I have read" digonswine Jun 2014 #6
Incarceration NavyDem Jun 2014 #7
They did a horrible thing ... polly7 Jun 2014 #4
I don't disagree digonswine Jun 2014 #5
Frightening. They need frogmarch Jun 2014 #8
makes me wonder chrisstopher Jun 2014 #9

NavyDem

(525 posts)
3. Agreed.
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 08:53 PM
Jun 2014

What little bit I've read, I think that these two young ladies have a very serious lack of understanding when it comes to judging fantasy from reality. What I mean by that is that I read (somewhere on DU) that they were both into violent type shows. I do not blame the shows as much as I would suspect a lack of mental maturity.

digonswine

(1,485 posts)
6. "What little I have read"
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 09:00 PM
Jun 2014

Yes--we are just getting the bare bone right now-as far as useful information goes.
My experience tells me they may not get a view of reality from incarceration--though, no doubt, much has changed in a few years--I hope.

NavyDem

(525 posts)
7. Incarceration
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 09:11 PM
Jun 2014

I think that you may be right here. It should start with a thorough Psychiatric Evaluation, and then taken from there. At age 12, I have a hard time believing that they are beyond being helped.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
4. They did a horrible thing ...
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 08:54 PM
Jun 2014

my opinion is that they need to be placed in a youth detention center with psychiatric treatment and re-evaluated when they turn adults.

digonswine

(1,485 posts)
5. I don't disagree
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 08:58 PM
Jun 2014

I have worked in treatment centers, though--I wonder if they can deal with this type of a disconnection with reality.

frogmarch

(12,153 posts)
8. Frightening. They need
Tue Jun 3, 2014, 09:52 PM
Jun 2014

treatment, but they may be too far gone to save.

When I was a 4th grader my teacher was an abusive monster, and at recess about half of my classmates and I plotted ways to kill her. We were serious, and we were capable of following through with it, but we couldn’t all agree on the best way to do it, so nothing came of it, and we forgot all about it by the time school let out for the summer. We weren’t psychopaths, and none of us were roughnecks or troublemakers. We were scared kids of the 1950s who’d been taught kids have no rights, and we were desperate.

We weren't paying homage to any fictional characters, but our collective mindset was probably similar to a reality game.

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