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A routine request in Florida for public records regarding the use of a surveillance tool known as stingray took an extraordinary turn Tuesday when federal authorities seized the documents before police could release them.
The surprise move by the U.S. Marshals Service stunned the ACLU, which earlier this year filed a routine public records request with the Sarasota, Florida, police department for information detailing its use of the controversial surveillance tool.
The ACLU had an appointment Tuesday morning to review documents pertaining to a case investigated by a Sarasota police detective. But marshals swooped in at the last minute to grab the records, claiming they belong to the U.S. Marshals Service and barring the police from releasing them.
ACLU staff attorney Nathan Freed Wessler called the move truly extraordinary and beyond the worst transparency violations the group has seen regarding documents detailing police use of the technology.
http://www.wired.com/2014/06/feds-seize-stingray-documents/
Demo_Chris
(6,234 posts)DonViejo
(60,536 posts)going to occur?
Aerows
(39,961 posts)but I think the suggestion was that President Obama shouldn't allow such things to continue.
DonViejo
(60,536 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)has encouraged this. Those were US marshalls. Obama's marshalls.
We shall see whether Obama does anything to correct this.
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)so it does not disappear after this news cycle.
Logical
(22,457 posts)Leme
(1,092 posts)from: http://www.wtsp.com/story/news/investigations/2014/03/12/2047624/
TAMPA BAY, Florida - The National Security Agency isn't the only government entity secretly collecting data from Americans' cell phones. Local police are increasingly scooping it up, too.
Armed with new technologies,including mobile devices that tap into cellphone data in real time, dozens of local and state police agencies are capturing information about thousands of cellphone users at a time, whether they are targets of an investigation or not, according to public records obtained during a 10 News/USA TODAY/Gannett investigation.
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hope snip is ok
Uncle Joe
(58,272 posts)Thanks for the thread, IDemo.
Baitball Blogger
(46,676 posts)billhicks76
(5,082 posts)These folks are our Gestapo. They are an illegal, secret police force who are nothing more than thugs with badges. If they could get away with it they would shoot your dog, beat your kids and rape your spouse. US Marshals are heavily involved with running prostitution and sex slave rings in Las Vegas. If people think they are there to protect they are naive. They are stone cold killers and have no problem admiting it. I would never mess with one of them. It's one thing being a bad ass but now they can get into every aspect of your personal life. We have failed ourselves.
defacto7
(13,485 posts)or corroborating information about US Marshals? It would be an interesting part of the puzzle if you do.
billhicks76
(5,082 posts)An Asian girl that was forced to have sex 20 times a day in a bamboo field next to San Diego mansions along with 50 other girls turned out to be Asian-American. The constructed rooms out of blankets in the bamboo patches with only a dirty futon on the ground. She had been kidnapped. They were later housed underneath a Vegas Casino in the sub level basement and the man pimping them out was a recently retired US Marshal who had been running the business for a long time.
defacto7
(13,485 posts)I didn't see 20/20... but did they say it was a wide spread issue with US marshals or is this a bad apple? I guess I'm asking if this is a "him" or a "they".
billhicks76
(5,082 posts)But he had a lot of power. The US Marshals I met were bragging how they killed civilians in Panama a year after Bush Sr invaded to take out Noriega and cover up his drug running.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)need attention. But we're so busy always pointing fingers everywhere else, rushing off to 'create democracies' all over the world, they aren't likely to get that attention any time soon.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)What is the point in voting for a Democrat who allows his administration to do something like that? I am truly ashamed of the Democratic Party at this moment.
billhicks76
(5,082 posts)Its out of control. They do some sick things Obama cannot support I'm sure but why he doesn't address it is anyone's guess. Poor minority kids locked up by the hundreds of thousands for bogus weed infractions? Private prison gladiator fights instituted by the guards? Hundreds of minority kids shot and killed by cops over weed, running away, mouthing off or just getting the wrong house or car? You know Obana is against these things and he isn't above commenting from such a high office. I believe someone is telling him to shut up or face consequences like embarrassing NSA extracted phone calls from his past or worse threats. I'm not naive.
reformist2
(9,841 posts)defacto7
(13,485 posts)I think most of US history has been a fight for control between the people and the powerful. The government most of us were taught about in 5th grade has in reality never exited. But as a dream of possibilities within any political system it was a gallant effort by those who had idealistic hopes for humanity and it could have been quite a strong and useful stepping stone toward freedom, peace, equality and justice. It could never have been the final structure of human culture and would have been superseded by better alternatives. But the direction we are going now is the product of greed and the intent of a powerful few. If it continues in this direction, our US version of democracy has failed.
smallcat88
(426 posts)Anyone still wondering why they're trying so hard to turn Snowden into a villain?
https://www.resetthenet.org/?r=aclu
This is from a recent email I got from the ACLU. This Thursday, June 5, you can run a splash screen to promote free software for end-to-end encryption in an effort to fight the internet spying.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)...or become a member and lend your voice to this fight.
www.aclu.org
eternal vigilance is the price of liberty
underthematrix
(5,811 posts)with anger and outrage.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Cough Jebthro.
Gotta love the transparency.
Oilwellian
(12,647 posts)A Florida judge has sided with the ACLU to order release of information about police use of "stingrays" which are invasive surveillance devices that send out powerful signals to trick cell phones into transmitting their locations and identifying information. The Tallahassee judges pro-transparency decision stands in contrast to extreme secrecy surrounding stingray records in another Florida court, which is at the center of an emergency motion filed by the ACLU today.
The ACLU learned several months ago about a case where Tallahassee police used a stingray to track a phone to a suspects apartment without getting a warrant. Although the detective responsible for the tracking testified in court about using a stingray, in deference to the governments demand for secrecy the court closed the hearing to the public and sealed the transcript.
The ACLU filed a motion asking the judge to unseal the transcript, citing the publics First Amendment right of access to court proceedings. In response, the government tried to justify continued secrecy by invoking the federal Homeland Security Act and other federal laws. As the ACLU explained to the court, those laws have no bearing because this case involves state judicial records, and because the government has waived its ability to invoke broad secrecy arguments by already releasing significant information about its use of stingrays.
Late yesterday, the judge ordered unsealing of the entire transcript. The portion that the government had sought to keep secret is here. It confirms key information about the invasiveness of stingray technology, including that:
https://www.aclu.org/blog/national-security-technology-and-liberty/victory-judge-releases-information-about-police-use
On edit: According to the ACLU, this is the part of the transcript the US Marshalls tried to keep hidden:
https://www.aclu.org/files/assets/100823_transcription_of_suppression_hearing_28unsealed_pages_11-2429.pdf
Score one for the little guy.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)to force the US Marshalls to return the physical documents and other records.
Which they should win. It seems the use of trap-and-trace as opposed to a probable cause warrant is at issue, and that should be decided in a federal court.
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)K&R
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)Recall that Obama selected a private prison consultant to run it, against the protests of the Alliance for Justice, Human Rights Defense Center, Private Corrections Working Group, Grassroots Leadership, National Lawyers Guild, International CURE, Detention Watch Network and Justice Policy Institute.
Under her corporate, revolving door "leadership," federal contracts for private prisons in the US have skyrocketed. Growing an industry that attaches a profit motive to the imprisonment of human beings is against everything this country should stand for.
http://www.counterpunch.org/2010/11/12/the-case-against-stacia-a-hylton/
The Obama Administration is aggressively growing private prisons.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=722906
Oilwellian
(12,647 posts)grasswire
(50,130 posts)It's hard to keep up with the outrages these days.
Leme
(1,092 posts)Kermitt Gribble
(1,855 posts)Thanks for posting, woo.
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,760 posts)Yet the RW propaganda machine causes millions to clamor for more citizens to become prisoners of the corrupt system.
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)This is a story that must be followed closely. We can't let this one fall off the radar.
gopiscrap
(23,725 posts)Savannahmann
(3,891 posts)The US Marshall's seized the records to protect the privacy of those who had been spied on and had their privacy violated. I mean that was the excuse the NSA used when someone wanted to know how many people the NSA had spied on without a warrant.
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)woo me with science
(32,139 posts)mike_c
(36,267 posts)eom
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)nothing compared to what there is to know.