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global1

(25,224 posts)
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 12:22 PM Jun 2014

Did Repubs Set An Impeachment Trap For Obama With This Bergdahl Exchange?.....

I just watched a video of John McCain - back in Feb of this year - come out for getting Bergdahl released from his captors. In watching it - Anderson Cooper was the interviewer - I got the impression that such a prisoner exchanged was discussed with Congress as it sounded like McCain knew about it. Other Repubs have had similar positions as McCain in the past as well.

Did they lure President Obama into thinking that he was justified in going through with this prisoner exchange - just to trap him into a position that looks like he overstepped his bounds now? Was this an impeachment trap?

Look how fast they turned on him after this was announced. Even some Repubs that originally tweeted congratulatory tweets about the release - deleted them quickly.

Now - even some Dems - because they might be embroiled in some close 2014 race - are siding with the Repubs against the President - most probably to save their jobs.

Politics is really a dirty, dirty business. Sad - because these people are in a position to do such good for our country - but choose to play politics instead.

How can they look themselves in the mirror in the a.m.?

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Did Repubs Set An Impeachment Trap For Obama With This Bergdahl Exchange?..... (Original Post) global1 Jun 2014 OP
Impeachment is meaningless without the Senate to convict Lee-Lee Jun 2014 #1
Impeachment without conviction does not lead to removal, but it is not meaningless. merrily Jun 2014 #5
And repukes will raise money from their idiots for this NightWatcher Jun 2014 #13
With Republicans everything is an impeachable offense, if he does or doesn't do anything Thinkingabout Jun 2014 #2
Not an impeachment trap. I don't see any of this going there. TwilightGardener Jun 2014 #3
They cry impeachment each time Obama draws air, it is how they keep teapots boiling with hate. Fred Sanders Jun 2014 #4
Impeachment will be a two edged sword for the Republicans. Uncle Joe Jun 2014 #6
This is sputtering out, even in rightwingworld. Warren Stupidity Jun 2014 #7
Some members of congress knew we are attempting a prisoner exchange gwheezie Jun 2014 #8
If so, they must have ordered it from Acme. winter is coming Jun 2014 #9
Republicans grasping at straws, as usual Michigander_Life Jun 2014 #10
From the get-go I have felt quite differently. Here's why. Frustratedlady Jun 2014 #11
backfire enid602 Jun 2014 #12
Bush and Cheney were not convicted of anything. former9thward Jun 2014 #15
Did Republicans cause you to spread the idea that Obama can be impeached over this? n/t PoliticAverse Jun 2014 #14
Now Come On Now - Are You Serious - Reading Many Of The Accounts Of This The Last Few Days..... global1 Jun 2014 #17
Anyway, he's not going to be impeached over this. n/t PoliticAverse Jun 2014 #18
theyll still impeach they just cant remove him from office w/o the senate leftyohiolib Jun 2014 #16
and on our side Pelosi put impeachment off the table. . B Calm Jun 2014 #19

merrily

(45,251 posts)
5. Impeachment without conviction does not lead to removal, but it is not meaningless.
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 12:33 PM
Jun 2014

It will have political consequences, but maybe not the political consequences for which the Republicans hope. Impeachment of Clinton hurt Republicans and helped Clinton. (Then again, did it hurt Gore, though? Hard to know.)

I don't think this is all about Obama, who is in office, will remain there for another two years and cannot run again. I think it's about Democrats in general and November 2014 in particular. They want the Senate and they want it bad.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
13. And repukes will raise money from their idiots for this
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 12:49 PM
Jun 2014

Give me $50 and I'll impeach Obama...

See how Tea Partyriffic I am...

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
2. With Republicans everything is an impeachable offense, if he does or doesn't do anything
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 12:27 PM
Jun 2014

I would not be surprised to see them attempt to impeach Obama for breathing.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
3. Not an impeachment trap. I don't see any of this going there.
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 12:29 PM
Jun 2014

Just a political attack, and a Neocon war-preserving tactic.

Uncle Joe

(58,284 posts)
6. Impeachment will be a two edged sword for the Republicans.
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 12:34 PM
Jun 2014

It will greatly alienate their supposed base, that being the military.

"Leave no man behind," President Obama didn't and the Republicans would've.

Thanks for the thread, global.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
7. This is sputtering out, even in rightwingworld.
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 12:37 PM
Jun 2014

It actually doesn't play well. We bring our troops home, all of them. That's what we do.

gwheezie

(3,580 posts)
8. Some members of congress knew we are attempting a prisoner exchange
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 12:42 PM
Jun 2014

Going back through different articles, it sounds like this has been in the works for about 3 years. I found an article published in April on a military site that said the deal to exchange the 5 was back on, if I could find it with google, it wasn't a secret. Can you imagine 30 days of debate in congress? This was similar to getting bin laden in the sense it was very risky for the team that had to execute the exchange, after a 30 day debate it would have endangered everyone involved. So Obama didn't call them in plenty of time for the talking heads to go berserk before the fact, so what? In the words of the great Hillary Clinton, "what difference does it make?" he's back in US hands, it's done, if the gop wants to try to impeach Obama they'll look like idiots, it would take years to impeach him, is this what they want to do for the rest of his term? the backlash will be relentless, they will pay for it for a long time.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
11. From the get-go I have felt quite differently. Here's why.
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 12:47 PM
Jun 2014

Obama doesn't often walk into a Republican trap. He sets them.

I think that if we are a bit more patient, we will see the final play in his notorious chess game. He knows the level of intelligence in that group and seems to enjoy playing with them. Granted, this was supposedly a situation that required speed, but Obama isn't so stupid as to fall into the Republican pit unless he has his proverbial ass covered.

For one, he got their permission to trade a year or so back. We don't know the REAL circumstances of the "walk away". Even though there is obviously a "rest of the story" Obama is one to let the Repugs trip all over themselves to "git" him. I think he enjoys that scene they put on. The more they expound, the deeper the pit they dig.

The only problem is that the public will believe the hyperbole, not the moment when they fall through the net. Only the Democrats will while giving a

Just my humble opinion!

enid602

(8,594 posts)
12. backfire
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 12:47 PM
Jun 2014

Obama has been criticised for not pursuing bushco for war crimes. Shrub and Cheney have already been convicted Malaysia. If the US gors that route, the Hague won't be far behind. How fard do the repubs want to push us on bergdahl?

former9thward

(31,939 posts)
15. Bush and Cheney were not convicted of anything.
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 01:12 PM
Jun 2014

The group in Malaysia was just that -- a group. Without any legal meaning or authority whatsoever. It would be like you and three of your neighbors holding a war crimes trial and convicting someone. It has no meaning.

global1

(25,224 posts)
17. Now Come On Now - Are You Serious - Reading Many Of The Accounts Of This The Last Few Days.....
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 04:49 PM
Jun 2014

impeachment has been discussed by the press and the talking heads on the cable news shows. The Repubs did not put me up to posting this as you have insinuated.

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