We see and hear a guy scream out in evil laughter as he busts out of the front door of another restaurant about 75 yards down the street. He's wearing ripped clothes and swinging a giant machete above his head. He runs straight towards us but stops about 10 feet from us and peacefully walks into the restaurant we were going into. As we arrive and open the door we see the guy laughing with his friends, one of whom is playing with his plastic machete and commenting on how real it looked.

My friend had just started work as a university police officer and told me that he was just about to pull his off duty piece on the guy. It was Halloween.

Open carriers make it tough to tell the good guys from the guy who is five seconds from starting his rampage. If a good guy makes the wrong call on the open carrier and pulls his concealed weapon, what's to keep the two guys from, fearing each other is a bad guy, starting a shootout? It will happen.

Are the criminals in Nevada who pointed guns at the Feds still there?

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Lined with tinfoil to keep those evil g'mint rays from probing the wet mass between their ears.

Or, of course they'd look sweet in this pretty outfit.

The open carry activists who consider themselves "good guys" could identify themselves by wearing large prosthetic phalluses, like those worn in penis processions in certain Greek and Japanese festivals. In Greece, they often add goat bells at the base of the shaft, so you can hear them approaching.
An added bonus: those of us who are apprehensive about "open carry" would have notice to leave or hide at the sound of goat bells.

On another thread, someone used the term "metallic phallic substitutes." Kinda fits right in with your suggestion.

Do the Cavers know about this?

It would be distinctive, and their penises would undoubtedly fit in the barrels!

Out of sight, out of mind has made America complacent to gun violence. In California open carry was banned and thanks to the recent 9th circuit court ruling, concealed carry permit applications are off the charts.

In many cases you won't know Billy Bob is a gun nut until he's going around shooting people, Open Carry brings them out of the shadows.

America needs to see this up close and in their faces.

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They screw up. They are frequently clumsy due to growth spurts. No thanks.

I want all of the people in those pics to stay the fuck as far away as possible.

Thank god I live in Boston. I NEVER see that shit around here.

Concealed carry allows crazy people to carry without anyone knowing. The public should have the right to know who is carrying weapons so they can avoid or even fire them.

Say if I'm in Target waiting in line, thanks to concealed carry I have no idea if the pissed off guy in front of is carrying until its too late but with Open Carry, I can see it and leave WAY ahead of time.

Illegal conceal carry is something to be scared of. Legal not so much.

for a modest investment, Barbie can match her rifle with any of her outfits.

concealed carry means the gun cannot be seen - how are cops detecting guns they cannot see and preventing crimes from happening?

remember that violent crime of all kinds have seen steady and significant declines over the past 20 years so I doubt it is that much of an problem.

Heller says that you have a right to self defense. If you have a constitutional right to self defense then why is that right restricted to just the home like Heller suggests? Several Federal appeals courts have said that there is no such limit and the right to self defense extends beyond the home. That is why California and Hawaii are switching to "shall issue" vice "may issue" concealed carry licensing.

I am not forcing anything on you - take your complaints to the court system.

That is all he wanted and that is all he got. Go read Heller and Scalia ' s comments on gun regulation. He actually agrees with you that guns can be strictly regulated.

just saying....

Having a damn gun strapped to your side is pretty much "I will kill you if I want to do so." Concealed carry is one thing, but open carry and everyone sees that you have the willingness to kill anybody? Uh, no, I'm not on board and it is intimidating.

As someone who lives in Texas with this stupid shit, I think it is a form of bullying. How do you know the difference between some guy who just wants to carry his gun in public to one who wants to go on a shooting rampage...that is until the shooting rampage is over.

I think they like the intmidation factor it comes with open carry.

gun nuts bought the house next door, they look like the two at Starbucks.

I will never speak to them.

This kid probably won't live to a very old age. He just strikes me as someone who will let his bulldog mouth overload his grasshopper ass and get himself in a bad situation. Hopefully not, but that's what struck me at first glance.

Why are they "Non-threatening"? Here's a clue:

Imagine that the people in those pictures were not white. Now visual these SWAT team arriving.

did something change after that? I also see that St. Ronnie had the support of the NRA on this as well.

... I will leave. I will leave my full grocery cart in the aisle; I will leave my dinner on its plate. I won't even stop to tell the manager unless s/he is right in front of me -- but I will call 911 as soon as I am clear of the parking lot.

Why do you suppose I have this attitude?

I can not agree with you at all about brandishing weapons in public.

Guns are useful tools but would I be allowed to go into Target wielding a running chain saw? It can be argued that I am using the 2nd Amendment... I don't need a license or permit. A chainsaw is a weapon... I think they made a film called the "Texas Chainsaw Massacre".

So are you fine with me having a running chainsaw in public? I'm not. I'm not fine with people carrying around guns in public at all. Now if that gun was carried in such a way that it is blatantly obvious that the gun is for self defense then I'd feel a little more comfortable... but personally I don't feel totally comfortable with that either.

I didn't grow up in a gun culture... I'm more comfortable with an unarmed law enforcement officer than one who is.

will soon be shooting at Other Mr. and Ms. Open Carry.

and a few Darwin award winners to boot!

go shooting in a place filled with open carriers?

Is it possible it would be an exciting venture for
somebody crazy and somewhat bent on suicidal glory..?
bring your guns to a gun fight, see how much damage
you can do before the other guys shoot you? The Wild
West, Butch Cassidy, war games.

This is all in the realm of my imagination, I don't
understand guns and am frankly glad that I don't have
them as I've been sorely tempted to spontaneously kill
people a few times.

be a messy death, I doubt any of the open carriers could hit a barn door when they are being shot at. But I have to agree with the poster up thread, put cowbells on them so innocents don't have to get caught in the crossfire.

I just hope no one sets off a firecracker around these idiots when they are out and about.

Glad to see the counter-speculation, though.

Anyone open-carrying would seem to me to fit the bill of a candidate for mental illness. I'm not about to approach them to ask their thoughts. I'm the hell out of there, for good.



On edit, I hesitate to add this, but how much more of a target does it make an establishment an inviting target for some nutjob simply because it sports a "No Open Carry" sticker at its entrance?


If I were a Texan or similar, I'd probably be getting kind of agoraphobic right about now.

to be so ruled by one's ego and ideology that you can't
think straight.

If gun owners aren't willing to jump through hoops, follow
reasonable regulations, have their "rights" reasonably
curtailed (in the same way we have vehicle speed limits on
highways, require licensing, age limits, regular relicensing,
registration) to make it much harder for the wrong people
to have guns -- then they are not fit to have guns either.

recognized this as an issue, and so Jay's Citizens Auxiliary Police wore blue armbands.
(sorry if this comes from right field for most).

http://philhendrieshow.com/item/57969-jay-santos-citizens-auxiliary-police

Wacky characters of Phil Hendrie.

#OpenCarryInThreeWords

The OP says, and I agree wholeheartedly, that there's no easy way to differentiate a whackjob from someone who is Following. The. Law.

If someone is indeed Following. The. Law., why wouldn't he or she want to make that abundantly clear? I would think they would be proud to be identified as someone who is Following. The. Law.

Enjoy. Your. Stay.

#Can'tTellTheTerroristsFromtheGoodGuys

n/t

#OpenCarryInThreeWords

or something.

Whatever it is, it's sick.

Maybe a white hood and fancy robes, they could call each other by really cool names like dragon and such. When they are together in groups as they are want to do on occasion, they can carry flaming torches to light their way and warn us meat sack bullet bag targets of their impending arrival

someone who thinks he (or she) is all hot shit because they can walk around slinging a gun. They get all bravado when they see something funny and then it's *BLAM BLAM BLAM* - protecting the world from 'Evil DOers' armed with a bag of skittles and can of Arizona Ice Tea.

They'll be the ones with the rifle butt pointing AWAY from their heads! (Sarcasm, of course) A few hours at a gun course does not a competent cowboy make!

Seriously - your point is a valid one and one that I have thought about. I have no desire to be in any business whereby I am forced to make a determination of who is carrying legally (and competently) and who is going to blow my brains out. I will simply remove myself from any premises where I see a gun, and hope to live to tell about it.

It's absurd that I have to live in a society that's allowing this type of stupid behavior.

should be enough to let everyone know that he's armed and batshit insane.

Except I was going to suggest they wear t-shirts saying 'Beware! I'm afraid my dick is too small so I might shoot you!'

I argued with one of my former co-workers about this. His right to live in fear is considered more important than my right to feel safe.

The 'anti-gubmint' crowd doesn't care that a drone can kill them from 50 miles away, the reality is our armed services are so well equipped that they don't need to send troops to root you out.

Bottom line, those that live in fear are afraid of their fellow citizens.

There is?

These guys are just walking IEDs who haven't gone off... yet

There's a law that says I can do anything, right?

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It's a dangerous world out there and that big, ugly gun keeps them from the worst fate they can imagine--being laughed at in public.

Their fragile masculinity can remain intact with those enormous guns slung across their backs.

Note that this is a little different from the guys with the discreetly holstered pistols. Their paranoia is a little milder and free floating. The gun keeps them feeling safe.

Of course, the real BAMFs out there go unarmed.

It's a form of protest. A stupid, ill-considered, counterproductive form of protest...an object illustration of the "law of unintended consequences." Someone actually concerned with their safety while shopping (and who isn't an idiot) would carry concealed, so as to not make themselves the first person someone with bad intent will target.

and you come across an open carry demonstrator with his semi auto proudly displayed. Up to this point the day has seemed uneventful, and nothing out of the ordinary has taken place. Which of the following is the FIRST thought that is probably going to spring to mind?

1). You think to yourself, "Gee, I'm sure glad that fellow is here to protect me from any terrorists that might be storming the mall this afternoon, I certainly feel safer for his armed presence!".

2.) You look around, trying to find out what possible reason there is for someone to be packing heat in the middle of the supermarket parking lot. You feel vaguely uneasy, but try to sidle closer to your armed protector, figuring he knows what he is doing and will protect you too. After all, your both Americans, right?

3.) The minute you see some nut job armed to the teeth in a location that doesn't warrant it, you know your'e dealing with a sick individual, and you leave as quickly as possible, prior, hopefully, to becoming collateral damage in the latest NRA publicity stunt.

I'm betting we could actually use this as a teapartier identity screening.

Though I'm pretty sure we can come up with a simpler screening system. How about the nonsense that comes out of their mouths, that's bad enough!

There are circumstances that can make people - some more easily than others - go from zero to batshitcrazy before you can say "twenty rounds in an innocent bystander." I prefer that my total strangers have to go through a little something before they can launch a hundred deadly missiles into random people.

I despise them

They're both lunatics. Who would carry around a gun if they had no intention of ever using it?

And isn't the point of concealed carry to give the sense that everyone could be armed at any time? WTF is the point of that other than to scare people? Open carry, concealed carry, there's no difference. When some idiot with a gun decides it's time to let her rip, we're all dead.

They know that they are intimidating others, but that is the point. Almost ALL of the very vocal minority Second Amendment absolutists (read: gun nuts and crazies) have an in-your-face attitude about their precious guns: "I have a gun and you can't do a fucking thing about it, so fuck you!"

You can see this, and similar statements all over the Internet, but it's beginning to backfire on these idiots. The American public is getting extremely tired of seeing and hearing about fucking guns everywhere, everyday. Gun nut extremists are fast becoming more despised than racists and bigots, although many of them are both.

Support a gun control organization of your choice today, and help to put an end to this madness, and the gun violence epidemic in our nation.

if you see one and it looks like this I'd get out of there:

Real men do NOT need guns to prove their manhood!

He was a conservative then, so no doubt he is a bagger now.

He'd be on death row, though.

I believe these nitwits have serious masculine problems. They should have to walk around with their dicks hanging out of their zippers.

These guys are just the 21st century equivalent of the old stereotypical flasher hanging around elementary schools and bus stops.

Nowadays, instead of calling the cops upon sight, the appropriate response would seem to be to aim a camera at them. No, that sounds dangerous -- I meant, "leave immediately, unless you have a death wish."

...where the clientele carries weapons. No. I've worked with the public enough to know that most people behave well, but frankly I don't trust human nature enough to believe a horrendous tragedy isn't seconds from happening when people are marching about with devices designed to kill.

Everything.

apparently.

You can smell the shit in their pants.

SalmonChantedEvening asked this on FB yesterday.

I'm sure we'll get an answer from them fine folks around the same time the Milky Way implodes.

http://www.barefootandprogressive.com/2010/03/rand-paul-throws-a-play-soldier-dress-up-party-for-obese-white-men.html

MORON LAMB

filled with little girls on their ponies and there was a father there with a six shooter on his hip. I ran up to him and said ömg, did a horse break a leg? are you going to have to shoot it?""he said, no why? I said OMG, then are we all in danger here? should we evacuate?"he said what are you talking about, I said "well you look like a nice man I figure there must be some reason you are armed at a horse show?"He gave me a brief history of his 2nd amendment rights,he was quite defensive, I just said, well I thought there must be some dire situation that required having a gun handy.

I know John Wayne died and they all feel like they can save the day, but they also scare the shit out of me and my wife. Hat or no hat!!!!!!!! Here in Florida ex-cops shoot regular people in movie theaters. This country has become bat-shit crazy!!!

Let them try that crap in Harlem, Detroit, or South Central L.A.

Then they will find that suddenly they'll have to use those guns. If they brazenly walk around "strapped to the gills", better be prepared to use it.

Oh wait, you mean those guns are just for show?

Let's have armed young black men stroll by, sipping coffee and pushing baby carriages. Let armed open carrying Hispanic men stroll through their neighborhoods walking dogs. Also let them be carrying pooper scoopers and bags to clean up what Fido leaves.

If they are given any shit let them say. "Open Carry is for everyone! If you can, we can!"

See how fast the Open Carry Movement dies.

Wolf

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Or the family jewels...

The number of guns they carry is their IQ.