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I have a question about Bergdahl's possible Courts Martial (Original Post) sellitman Jun 2014 OP
The Army hasn't said yet whether there will be a court martial. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2014 #1
Kind of jumping the gun, aren't you? atreides1 Jun 2014 #2
My sarcasm tag must of been erased. sellitman Jun 2014 #4
Not trying to be rude Keefer Jun 2014 #3
court-martial PoliticAverse Jun 2014 #5
Courts-Martial Explained Keefer Jun 2014 #7
Only in the plural. And this case didn't call for the plural. MineralMan Jun 2014 #6
Actually, Keefer Jun 2014 #8
I know. It's still plural, though. MineralMan Jun 2014 #9
Unless you know which of the three Keefer Jun 2014 #11
No. He will face only one court-martial. MineralMan Jun 2014 #12
Cool. Keefer Jun 2014 #14
he may ot even be Court Martialed TorchTheWitch Jun 2014 #10
Allen West wasn't Court Martialed hack89 Jun 2014 #13
Few will make the distinction madville Jun 2014 #15

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,587 posts)
1. The Army hasn't said yet whether there will be a court martial.
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 02:56 PM
Jun 2014

If the penalty for military offenses is being thrown to the Taliban, let's give them West.

atreides1

(16,066 posts)
2. Kind of jumping the gun, aren't you?
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 02:57 PM
Jun 2014

The man hasn't even been charged with anything, much less been court martialed! Let's wait until the Army has conducted an investigation before we start wondering what will or won't happen.

Keefer

(713 posts)
7. Courts-Martial Explained
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 03:16 PM
Jun 2014

Military.com
The Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) provides for three different types of courts-martial: summary, special, and general. These forms of courts-martial differ in their make-up and the punishments which may be imposed.
The Military Rules of Evidence apply to all classifications of courts-martial. Moreover, an accused must be proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

http://www.military.com/benefits/military-legal-matters/courts-martial-explained.html .

MineralMan

(146,254 posts)
6. Only in the plural. And this case didn't call for the plural.
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 03:12 PM
Jun 2014

It's one court-martial. It's three courts-martial. "Martial" is an adjective. "Court" is a noun.

Sorry, but no marks for you on this one.

Keefer

(713 posts)
11. Unless you know which of the three
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 03:24 PM
Jun 2014

types he will/will not face:

Summary Court-Martial

Special Court-Martial

General Court-Martial

He may face one or more different courts martial.

MineralMan

(146,254 posts)
12. No. He will face only one court-martial.
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 03:26 PM
Jun 2014

Even assuming he faces even one, which I doubt will happen. Double jeopardy applies in military law, too.

Seriously. Quit while you're ahead.

TorchTheWitch

(11,065 posts)
10. he may ot even be Court Martialed
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 03:22 PM
Jun 2014

That's the province of the military, and they've already said that even if found guilty they believe his years of captivity were punishment enough.

I think he still should be tried, but I tend to agree that further punishment like jail is a bit much at this point. He was already allowed to rot for 5 years as a POW.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
13. Allen West wasn't Court Martialed
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 03:31 PM
Jun 2014

Last edited Wed Jun 4, 2014, 04:39 PM - Edit history (1)

He was referred to an Article 15 proceeding, which is non-judicial in nature.

madville

(7,404 posts)
15. Few will make the distinction
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 04:00 PM
Jun 2014

In many cases NJP is basically like pleading guilty or no contest and accepting a punishment that's handed down by their chain of command.

The accused can request a court-martial if they want a trial in order to have legal representation and dispute the charges.

I know several people that have declined NJP, requested the court-martial and been found not guilty.

If the military suggests NJP it means they want it to be swift or possibly their case is weak. If the accused agrees to NJP they are basically saying sentence me from what I have seen. If the military takes him straight to court-martial they think they have a strong case. If the accused requests a court-martial in lieu of NJP it's like pleading "not guilty" and going to trial.

A court-martial is in the best interest of the accused in many cases, especially if the evidence/military's case is weak.

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