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bigtree

(85,986 posts)
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 08:03 PM Jun 2014

WH Says NYT Report Claiming Bergdahl Left a Note Behind "NOT TRUE. There was no statement"

Last edited Wed Jun 4, 2014, 09:54 PM - Edit history (2)

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JUST IN - Saxby Chambliss says WH told senators in briefing that NYT reporting that Bergdahl left a note when he abandoned camp is wrong.


Politico:

____ The administration briefed Congress amid a swirl of rumors about the circumstances of Bergdahl’s military service and the events that led to his capture. The White House pushed back on some press reports that suggested Bergdahl left a note at his base that included statements critical of the U.S. and the Afghan war.

“We were told today that is not true. There was no statement,” said Sen. Saxby Chambliss (R-Ga.), the top Republican on the Intelligence Committee and a strong critic of the White House’s decision-making on the swap.


read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2014/06/bowe-bergdahl-obama-officials-capitol-hill-congress-private-meeting-107424.html

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WH Says NYT Report Claiming Bergdahl Left a Note Behind "NOT TRUE. There was no statement" (Original Post) bigtree Jun 2014 OP
Now THAT is interesting. TwilightGardener Jun 2014 #1
on to the next smear bigtree Jun 2014 #3
In a week, Tweety will be calling Bergdahl a hero. Drunken Irishman Jun 2014 #4
I was thinking the same thing... Veilex Jun 2014 #50
Well if he was a normal person he would madokie Jun 2014 #52
The cons will not care. Facts get the way of the fiction created by this propaganda, Fred Sanders Jun 2014 #2
well thats a real twist. DCBob Jun 2014 #5
Probably the PR team hired to smear Bergdahl.... riderinthestorm Jun 2014 #20
He did leave a note 840high Jun 2014 #6
The WH is claiming the report is wrong. DCBob Jun 2014 #7
Thanks. 840high Jun 2014 #8
so says an unnamed 'senior military official' bigtree Jun 2014 #9
a FORMER senior military official riverwalker Jun 2014 #26
If this were actually true then he had become disconnected from reality HubertHeaver Jun 2014 #10
Did you read the OP? The WH is saying that NYT report is wrong, that there was no note. sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #45
So who wrote the note? Was there a note? Someone else wrote? CYA? What? nt kelliekat44 Jun 2014 #11
There was a story about someone finding a note right after he left in 2009 TwilightGardener Jun 2014 #12
the only ones mentioning the note riverwalker Jun 2014 #14
Some "senior military official" had mentioned it to the NYT as fact. TwilightGardener Jun 2014 #16
his narrative riverwalker Jun 2014 #27
Figures. Thanks. nt SunSeeker Jun 2014 #28
He had left the base before and returned. As for the note, where is it? Two guys hired by the sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #46
update: Politico article w/Chambliss quote bigtree Jun 2014 #13
Oh NOES!!!!11111 Cha Jun 2014 #17
That just means there wasn't anything GOPpers could cling to, like Bibles and gunz! 4lbs Jun 2014 #21
what the heck is a "desertion note" anyway? riverwalker Jun 2014 #15
Everyone should read tht article. It explains a whole lot about these guys. Seems Bergdahl may sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #47
Its already starting to backfire on the GOP Iliyah Jun 2014 #18
Jessica Lynch n.t SoCalDem Jun 2014 #19
My wife knew her, back in the day. riqster Jun 2014 #23
I am proud of her too..for not allowing herself SoCalDem Jun 2014 #24
Yep. Classy and a patriot. riqster Jun 2014 #25
Pat Tillman. Common thread: Right Wingers used them. nt Hekate Jun 2014 #34
The NYT got something wrong??? Jack Rabbit Jun 2014 #22
The media seems to have cut back on the attacks with Bergdahl. LLD Jun 2014 #29
More of Richard Grenell's "PR" work? herding cats Jun 2014 #30
so what if there was? Enrique Jun 2014 #31
more on the "retired officer" in NYT riverwalker Jun 2014 #32
Post removed Post removed Jun 2014 #33
Tin ear? Really? It was time to get him back and had nothing to do with the VA. Hekate Jun 2014 #35
He sure didn't last long...kudos to our MIR team! countryjake Jun 2014 #37
I think the other DU blog would be a better it. riverbendviewgal Jun 2014 #36
Would the RW have been happier to have seen the Taliban cut a U.S. citizen's head off on video? YOHABLO Jun 2014 #38
no question about it Enrique Jun 2014 #39
And TheTaliban Is Not cynzke Jun 2014 #42
Someone right here on DU said that they hoped he'll face a firing squad... countryjake Jun 2014 #40
That is very disturbing davidpdx Jun 2014 #44
So many people are simply reacting to each new "revelation"... countryjake Jun 2014 #48
I'm sure they are going through heaven and hell at the same time davidpdx Jun 2014 #49
It's irrelevant. Getting him home was the right thing, no matter what. merrily Jun 2014 #41
I hate the meme that he abandoned camp. He had a history of taking walks, and coming back riderinthestorm Jun 2014 #43
Deja vu all over again HoosierCowboy Jun 2014 #51
 

Veilex

(1,555 posts)
50. I was thinking the same thing...
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 02:32 AM
Jun 2014

Quick, throw some mud and see if it sticks! If not, well, we'll get more mud!!!

madokie

(51,076 posts)
52. Well if he was a normal person he would
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 10:28 AM
Jun 2014

I'm convinced that tweety is a gun for hire. Whoever is buttering his toast gets his attention

I'm proud of our President on this. Makes this old Vet happy to know that this Commander in Chief cares about his troops.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
2. The cons will not care. Facts get the way of the fiction created by this propaganda,
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 08:12 PM
Jun 2014

and in the way of creating fodder for the news networks too lazy to correct false narratives.

Like the false pings from a lost airliner, false narratives can fill the airwaves for days on end.

 

840high

(17,196 posts)
6. He did leave a note
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 08:15 PM
Jun 2014

Bowe Bergdahl's Vanishing Before Capture Angered His Unit
www.nytimes.com/.../us-soldier-srgt-bowe-bergdahl-o...
The New York Times
2 days ago - ... midnight on June 30, 2009, Pfc. Bowe Bergdahl left behind a note in ... American mission in Afghanistan and was leaving to start a new life.

bigtree

(85,986 posts)
9. so says an unnamed 'senior military official'
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 08:20 PM
Jun 2014

Last edited Thu Jun 5, 2014, 01:54 AM - Edit history (1)

. . . according to a NYT reporter.

HubertHeaver

(2,522 posts)
10. If this were actually true then he had become disconnected from reality
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 09:22 PM
Jun 2014

and was a danger to those around him. If those around him actually observed this behavior he should have been med-evaced.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
45. Did you read the OP? The WH is saying that NYT report is wrong, that there was no note.
Sat Jun 7, 2014, 12:31 AM
Jun 2014

And IF there was, the military will be able to produce it, no? Surely they would not throw it away?

As for the NYT, remember Judith Miller, remember the Rendon Group? The Rendon Group was hired by Bush et al to 'sell the War in Iraq'.

They used journalists to 'funnel stories to' in major news organizations, people like Judith Miller eg. Which is how we got the lies in so called credible news organizations like the NYT.

Looks like we have another PR Firm 'selling' the Bergdahl is a traitor' story. Looks like the source of this note story may be one of the 'disgruntled soldiers' they have been using, one of whom apparently received a 'less than honorable discharge' himself to funnel stories to the NYT and others.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
12. There was a story about someone finding a note right after he left in 2009
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 09:47 PM
Jun 2014

saying he wanted to into the mountains or something. But I don't know if it was ever substantiated beyond that, it was just a report of a note. But apparently there is no note in his file.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
16. Some "senior military official" had mentioned it to the NYT as fact.
Thu Jun 5, 2014, 01:52 AM
Jun 2014

I wonder if he was just repeating the legend going around that there was a note, or if he actually saw it, or saw it in Bergdahl's investigation file.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
46. He had left the base before and returned. As for the note, where is it? Two guys hired by the
Sat Jun 7, 2014, 12:36 AM
Jun 2014

Right Wing PR group to smear Bergdahl are not very credible. Reminds me of the Rendon Group and Judith Miller et al, the Rendon Group was hired by the Bush admin to SELL the War in Iraq. They used 'journalists' like Judith Miller to get their 'stories' into the NYT and other news media.

If there WAS a note, the military would have it. No one has seen it, that I know of, and the WH says there was no note.

Cha

(297,081 posts)
17. Oh NOES!!!!11111
Thu Jun 5, 2014, 01:59 AM
Jun 2014
"Most Republicans emerged from the meeting expressing frustration, arguing there was little new information."


4lbs

(6,854 posts)
21. That just means there wasn't anything GOPpers could cling to, like Bibles and gunz!
Thu Jun 5, 2014, 10:56 AM
Jun 2014

gunz gunz gunz!

The gawd!

Saint geebus!

riverwalker

(8,694 posts)
15. what the heck is a "desertion note" anyway?
Wed Jun 4, 2014, 10:40 PM
Jun 2014

seriously, think about it. A desertion note? WTF? "Dear Army...."


The ONLY ones mentioning a "note" are the RW swift boaters. If you read Hastings article about them, it may explain why.
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/americas-last-prisoner-of-war-20120607

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
47. Everyone should read tht article. It explains a whole lot about these guys. Seems Bergdahl may
Sat Jun 7, 2014, 12:38 AM
Jun 2014

have been the best soldier in that unit.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
18. Its already starting to backfire on the GOP
Thu Jun 5, 2014, 10:26 AM
Jun 2014

Keep this up and their so called take over of congress will be slowly running away from them. Piss off enough American voters and they will come out in full force and vote your ugly asses out of office. Keep effing with soldiers and veterans, the unemployed and Americans who are not in that gawd damn 1-2%.

riqster

(13,986 posts)
23. My wife knew her, back in the day.
Thu Jun 5, 2014, 03:11 PM
Jun 2014

Says the Bushies totally used the poor soldier for their selfish purposes. Those who know her are proud of her service, and of how she took control of her life back from the propagandists.

 

LLD

(136 posts)
29. The media seems to have cut back on the attacks with Bergdahl.
Thu Jun 5, 2014, 05:57 PM
Jun 2014

I have a feeling they found something out in Congress to tell them the attacks may not be justified.

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
31. so what if there was?
Thu Jun 5, 2014, 06:17 PM
Jun 2014

would such a note be a huge scandal? Would it be some kind of smoking gun?

I don't think it would be, but vigorous debunkings like this give the idea that it would be.

riverwalker

(8,694 posts)
32. more on the "retired officer" in NYT
Thu Jun 5, 2014, 07:17 PM
Jun 2014
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/06/world/asia/bowe-bergdahl-walked-away-before-military-report-says.html

But the report is said to contain no mention of Sergeant Bergdahl having left behind a letter in his tent that explicitly said he was deserting and explained his disillusionment, as a retired senior military official briefed on the investigation at the time told The New York Times this week.

Asked about what appeared to be a disconnect, the retired officer insisted that he remembered reading a field report discussing the existence of such a letter in the early days of the search and was unable to explain why it is not mentioned in the final investigative report.


So this Dingleberry tells the NYT that there is a note, then later it's "well...hmmmm...I thought I maybe sorta read it somewhere...ummm...I forgot..."

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Hekate

(90,627 posts)
35. Tin ear? Really? It was time to get him back and had nothing to do with the VA.
Thu Jun 5, 2014, 09:51 PM
Jun 2014

Congress was not bypassed, either. I recommend you pull up Rachel Maddow's excellent in depth reporting on the Bergdahl case -- both tonight and previously. Congress had abundant notice.

countryjake

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37. He sure didn't last long...kudos to our MIR team!
Thu Jun 5, 2014, 10:00 PM
Jun 2014

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YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
38. Would the RW have been happier to have seen the Taliban cut a U.S. citizen's head off on video?
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 03:56 AM
Jun 2014

What would they be spinning then? That he deserved to have his head cut off because he deserted his post? Makes you wonder.

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
39. no question about it
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 05:04 AM
Jun 2014

that would have made it politically impossible to ever make a deal with the Taliban, and the war would never end. So they would be ecstatic if such a thing happened.

cynzke

(1,254 posts)
42. And TheTaliban Is Not
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 08:47 AM
Jun 2014

Al-Qaeda. They are trying to regain the control they lost in Afghanistan and Bergdahl was a high profile pawn. Torturing and killing him would have been counter productive.

countryjake

(8,554 posts)
40. Someone right here on DU said that they hoped he'll face a firing squad...
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 05:05 AM
Jun 2014

if he was a deserter. My jaw dropped to the floor when I read that on Wednesday and yes, every bit of all this wild speculation and especially the calls for his punishment make me wonder (and shudder), when none of us actually know a damn thing about the circumstances of Sgt. Bergdahl's capture.

One thing for sure, if he had been executed while being held prisoner by the Taliban, the right would be spinning, immediately, in the opposite direction.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
44. That is very disturbing
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 11:57 PM
Jun 2014

I think at this point we know so little and the reports are so muddied by what people want to be true. His physical and mental health at this point are a bigger issue as he has a long recovery ahead.

countryjake

(8,554 posts)
48. So many people are simply reacting to each new "revelation"...
Sat Jun 7, 2014, 03:07 AM
Jun 2014

that pops up on the Internet, false headlines, idiotic magazine covers, ambiguous "official" reports...the buzz has become a living nightmare.

I can't even imagine what his loved ones must be feeling, after all this time, to now have such a cacophony blaring.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
49. I'm sure they are going through heaven and hell at the same time
Sat Jun 7, 2014, 06:59 AM
Jun 2014

Knowing their son is finally coming home, but yet so much hate out there toward him for no reason.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
43. I hate the meme that he abandoned camp. He had a history of taking walks, and coming back
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 10:08 AM
Jun 2014

His platoon knew about that and so did the military.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014819538

Obviously doing that in Afghanistan was really stupid but its not as though this was the first time...

HoosierCowboy

(561 posts)
51. Deja vu all over again
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 10:22 AM
Jun 2014

Check out "The Brook of Elan" with Tommy Lee Jones

A story about the father of a dead American soldier finding out the truth about running over kids in Afghanistan.

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