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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhat Maureen Dowd's Cannabis accident tells us
for those who do not know the story: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/03/maureen-dowd-tries-marijuana_n_5442224.html
OK, Dowd is a journalist. One of the things she is supposed to do is ASK QUESTIONS and GATHER FACTS. If she were unable to do this, it would be like saying I am a chef, but I do not know how to boil water or handle a knife. Apparently, she failed to do just that. Any one of us would ask a doctor how to take a drug: do we take it with food, morning, nightimes, can it make us drowsy, etc. Again, she failed to do that. So she not only showed a lack of professional skills (asking a question) but failed to use the same common sense we all use when we go to a doctor, or pick up a prescription at a Walgreens or CVS.
But, does her admitted mistake cause her to realize she made one...NO, she gets on and spins a tale of Reefer madness, blaming everyone BUT herself, and she can get away with that because she is a NYT reporter! Never mind who gets hurt, or that the conservatives will likely use this as a horror story to kill a reform of Cannabis laws "see, even dat Liberal Dowd got into trouble!" It says a lot where we allow people to do at the very least ignore the truth, and be fools, because they are our fools, in our papers, and they say something we like on occasion. It sure doe not hurt that, for all of Obama's sad foot dragging on the issue, The obama presidency will be known as being the era where states first started to treat Cannabis as just another intoxicant or medicine, something Maureen is helping to take back, even though she is simply avoiding the fact she failed to or refused to ask questions.
Warpy
(110,903 posts)and by that I mean the plant, itself. I'd like to see the oral forms restricted to medical shops so people will know how much, how often right on their prescription.
Yeah, Dowd was stupid. She failed to ask questions. Had she asked questions (which would have been typical newbie questions), she might have been steered toward a vaporizer or pre rolled joint and instructed in how much, how often.
Personally, I think she killed that candy bar in a couple of bites. They're not huge. Oral pot also lasts a lot longer than a couple of tokes off a joint. It has to be approached a lot more carefully.
While my own preferred ingestion method would most likely be loaded brownies, I'd make them out of unrefined leaves and make them weak. And that's only after I'd eased back into it with a vaporizer. I'd give the confections a miss, thanks, unless I was puking my guts up on chemo.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)to make brownies and like you say would be high for hours. I can only imagine how high you would get using the high potency pot of today.
Warpy
(110,903 posts)and I sincerely doubt that stuff was weaker that the stuff being grown outdoors today. It was one hit giggle dope and a lid would last forever unless you had a lot of parties. Still, as strong as that stuff was, you'd be pretty much OK three hours later.
It's the oral form people need to be wary of, especially the candy. My guess is that's what's going to cause the most problems, especially the more refined stuff like hash candies.
However, the plant should be legalized and sales taxed and regulated. No plant should be declared illegal, not pot, not poppies and not coca.
nomorenomore08
(13,324 posts)Thank you.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)But I left soon after as an Army draftee, served 4-1/2 years, and never saw or heard from the guy until we ran into each other at our 10-year HS reunion.
First thing I said to him was, "Did you bring my half of our stash?"
SomethingFishy
(4,876 posts)So you know what you are getting. You ever been in a pot shop? They have this shit down to a science, it's amazing. The number of strains and the knowledge of how they effect you is impressive as hell.
nomorenomore08
(13,324 posts)Pisces
(5,592 posts)else had to drive me home. It was the worst experience not being able to know how long this feeling was going to
last. That was the last time I ever ate pot brownies. I think edibles need to be regulated differently and a verbal
reminder about dosage when they are sold. Even though you can't die from an overdose you could crash your car if it
kicks in while behind the wheel.
A child could have a terrible reaction if they got a hold of a candy bar. I am all for legalized pot, but some form
of oversight on edibles is reasonable.
MADem
(135,425 posts)one wolfish munch of an entire chocolate covered pot bar, she goes and proves me right!
Couldn't have happened to a nicer gal!
Here's another lesson for her--she lived to write her stupid and uninformed screed. I'd like to see her try that with the same percentage overdose of oxycontin!
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)...Don't Bogart that candy bar, my friend!
MADem
(135,425 posts)TexasTowelie
(111,293 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)EVERYBODY gets a bite!
MADem
(135,425 posts)herself!!
trublu992
(489 posts)DonCoquixote
(13,615 posts)We know she is going to be protected by the NYT, unless that female editor that got the Bum's rush.
https://news.yahoo.com/video/fired-nyt-editor-leading-newsroom-151414944.html
http://www.redstate.com/diary/gawken/2014/05/19/newsworthy-ny-times-two-female-star-columnists-maureen-dowd-gail-collins-take-pass-jill-abramsons-firing/
That second link really has me galled. I do not mind if a jornalist slams Obama, it is their job to make the powerful on their toes, but when someone getting a fat paycheck obviously stays silent so as not to jeopardize their next fat paycheck, they lose authority. If a lady journalist and self described feminist does cannot even leave a blurb on the sacking of one of the few female editors, what good are they?
Good for making idiots of themselves, I guess.
And to those mad I posted from Red State, normally I would not, but when even those fools can see BS for what it is, it is worth it.
eridani
(51,907 posts)One thing that many don't understand about edibles is that cooking THC tends to change it into THCA, which is one of the components with a strong soporific effect. The other class of cannabinoids with this effect are the gamma cannabinoids.
The first time I ever had pot brownies was at a party, and the result was a bunch of people asleep and draped all over the furniture.
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)Heating THC-A which is non-psychoactive, converts it to THC, which is. With brownies, cookies, etc. you're converting the THC-A in an oil-base (butter, vegetable oil, etc.) which can intensify the psychoactive effect in some people. And they have a bad trip. With edibles they should be taken in small quantities if you're not used to them. You'll naturally reach your own stasis-point.
eridani
(51,907 posts)DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)K&R
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)would she feel obliged to try those as well? As it stands her alleged experience isn't worth much other than data, as she is only 1/316 millionth of an opinion in this country. Perhaps we should wait on a good sampling of the others to come up with conclusions...
Oh wait, we did. It would appear that she adds about as much good info as a buffoon playing the part of the out-of-town rube.
But as the one commenter pointed out, perhaps there is a larger need for marijuana tour guides than we thought. Especially for those who are doomed to wander into challenges that are larger than they can handle.
Even Euell Gibbons (some of you will have to google that one) got stomach aches and sickness from what he found to eat from time to time, and he knew what he was doing.
nomorenomore08
(13,324 posts)Freddie
(9,231 posts)Ate it a couple times in my misguided youth and did not like the seemingly out-of-control high that lasted way too long when you had to function the next day. There's a reason why bongs were invented.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)COPD here. I will be using edibles. Guess I'll have to be careful
Retrograde
(10,068 posts)so I'd go the edible route as well.
Actually, I just want to grow some as it's supposed to be drought tolerant.
noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)Sometimes 100 to sleep. Anything below 50mg hardly affects me. In California, most of the edibles sold in the big clubs are tested, so you know how much you're consuming. No way should a newbie down an entire bar, as Died apparently did.
SomethingFishy
(4,876 posts)My wife does 10mg and is fine with that. 40mg seems to do the trick for me. Depends on the edible too, I can eat more of a Sativa strain that I can an Indica.
noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)Anything less than 50 does nothing for me. I like The Medicine Man butterscotch candies...50mg of GDP.
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)I eat small doses almost everyday...and work and function. I take a larger dose if I want to go to sleep. I rarely smoke anymore.
Logical
(22,457 posts)pacalo
(24,721 posts)I just can't believe a reporter would not ask how much of the candy bar should she eat at a time -- when she was doing research for an opinion piece about her experience.
I've never had an edible mj-laced treat, but I've been curious enough to ask those who knew about it how much to eat. I suppose NYT doesn't think enough of its readers to recognize that her incuriosity about what she was researching would be questioned.
Retrograde
(10,068 posts)of some NYT higher-ups: I can't think of any other reason she still has a column.
OTOH, Ross DoubtThat has one, too.
pacalo
(24,721 posts)but she seems to have sold out her talents to the wrong ideological side when she hasn't been writing about the science-fiction behavior of the Republicans for over a decade. Rod Serling would have been inspired!
Android3.14
(5,402 posts)I remember partying with the occasional person who turned out to be an exhausting downer because the weed brought out their inner drama queen.
whistler162
(11,155 posts)of legalization!
Warpy
(110,903 posts)because those drugs they tried in the 60s were scary.
I did a few things that were scary enough I'd never do them again.
Pot wasn't one of them.
This is pure anecdata, but most of the people I know who reacted badly to psychedelics of all types turned out to be rigid, authoritarian, and very conservative.
Crunchy Frog
(26,548 posts)and I am neither religious, Republican, nor authoritarian, thank you very much.
I voted in favor of legalization, but I do think that it needs to be regulated, and that basic information about potency, dosage size, and effects, including risks and possible side effects, needs to be on the packaging, just like with any other legally sold drug.
Warpy
(110,903 posts)and I'm glad what I have observed in my own life isn't the case across the board. I just know so many it applies to.
I'll go farther and suggest that oral pot products be restricted to medical pot patients. The rest of us can put it in brownies if we want to eat it.
However, no plant needs to be regulated, not even opium poppies. Poppy head tea and tinctures made at home provide decent control of mild to moderate pain and have done so for thousands of years without turning whole populations into zombies.
The refined stuff needs to be prescribed.
Logical
(22,457 posts)bklyncowgirl
(7,960 posts)Lots of newbies out there and even old hippies who haven't indulged in years might underestimate the power of an edible. This stuff isn't candy isn't candy any more than a Long Island Iced Tea is a sweet harmless drink from Liptons.
I wish is was all light and rainbows but it is not. The sellers could get sued.
DonCoquixote
(13,615 posts)that is not what applies here. Yes, if I, who have never done Cannabis, were to get an RX, I would ask the folks at my local drugstore what I should do and not do. Yet, this is a JOURNALIST, or at the very least, someone asking for that level of respect. She shines her "I am a NEW YORK TIMES JOURNALIST" credentials the way a southern sheriff shines his badge. With that in mind, she can and should be held to a much higher standard, especially if, instead of she uses it to write in her paper, and AFFECT OPINION. If she just tweeted this, or put it in a personal blog (which her fans would still read) it would be harmless. No, she uses her bully pulpit to slam Cannabis legalization because it offended HER, and SHE was exposed for what she was: the idiot who is that way not because of a naturally low IQ, but from willful, arrogant ignorance.
Pay no attention to that lady behind the curtain! She just ate too much candy.
Logical
(22,457 posts)randr
(12,408 posts)I had a similar experience with an edible brownie. I just could not stop eating it. I enjoyed the rushes as they always take me to an elevated mental state but I was still in unfamiliar territory. My wife found me curled up in the guest bed later that afternoon and said she knew I had gotten too high by the smile on my sleeping face. All in all not the most pleasant experience and I will regulate my ingestion more carefully in the future but not one that I felt in danger of hurting myself or others for sure.
BTW I do possess a Medical Marijuana permit and am a proud Colorado resident.
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)That is the lesson took.
Strelnikov_
(7,772 posts)or . . . the THC had an interaction with one of the brew of mood altering drugs someone like this is probably on.
First time I had some gold, I was Howlin Wolf for about four hours.
I would say Ms. Dowd has, well, issues she is suppressing.
Warpy
(110,903 posts)You could listen to the same cut on a record for about 2 hours straight.
intheflow
(28,407 posts)Hence the wine she was also drinking. You're not just looking to chill on the couch when you pound down two drugs, Maureen, you are looking to tie. one. on.
And then you complain about it?
pacalo
(24,721 posts)of the drug's effects, she shouldn't have drank the wine. A lot stinks about her story.
I think you're correct.
nomorenomore08
(13,324 posts)*hums "Over the Hills and Far Away"*
Throd
(7,208 posts)Bigmack
(8,020 posts)Don't blame the cannabis.
I ingest every night. I DO have to watch my dose, tho.
Indica is nice for sleep.
MoDo is dumber than a bag of hammers, but we've always known that.
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)to not over-indulge, especially when it comes to drugs. She's lucky that she didn't get behind the wheel after eating that "candy" bar.
Crunchy Frog
(26,548 posts)I'm glad that she wrote the article that she did. She had a first hand experience and she reported on it.
I'm from Colorado, and though I'm not currently living there, I'm still a registered voter, and I voted in favor of this legalization bill, but I think her article points up some serious flaws in the enactment of this law.
As nearly as I can tell, they are manufacturing and marketing candy laced with pot, and they are not packaging it with the most basic labeling or information about drug potencies, dosage sizes, expected effects or potential side effects or risks. No other drug is marketed and sold that way.
Your prescription from the pharmacy comes with detailed information about the how much drug there is, how much you are supposed to take, at what intervals, and warnings and possible side effects. Your doctor and/or pharmacist will council you extensively, especially if it is a potent or potentially risky substance, and no, you are not expected to do your own research (though I do in fact believe that's a good idea).
Under the new conditions, there will likely be a fair number of novices trying this drug. For someone who knows little or nothing about it, it is by no means obvious or intuitive that one sixteenth of a candy bar is a single dose, or that ingested pot is more potent and longer lasting than inhaled pot. When people purchase something openly, legally, and over the counter, there is an assumption that it is either safe, or that it will be labeled with appropriate warnings and instructions. The "rules of the game" are vastly different under a system of open, legal sales than they are when sales are illegal.
Dowd may have displayed naivete, but I'd be willing to bet that it is not that uncommon of a naivete among the uninitiated, and that she is far from the only person who has had or will have a similar experience.
As a journalist, it's not her job to protect the interests of a particular industry. It is her job to point out potential problems with that industry where she encounters them. She did a good job. These issues are real, and they are serious, and that's completely irrespective of how much you may hate her.
This shit needs to be far more strongly regulated. If this doesn't happen, the legalization experiment may end up failing, and you'll have to go back to buying your precious pot on the street.
I don't care how much the messenger is hated, the message matters.
Now please hate on me all you want.
Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)Live and learn.
Crunchy Frog
(26,548 posts)The error in trial and error is okay as long as you learn something from it.
DonCoquixote
(13,615 posts)Indeed, there is a lot that can be done, and should be done, to give people the knowledge they need. That being said, do they do the same thing with alcohol?
Also, the bar did warn her it was sixteen sevrings. Granted, you have a point about making things more organized, more of a standard procedure that could be expected comparable to drugstores, I will also grant that a lot of the amtuers, the people who never wanted to be responsible, need to be washed out, just like moonshiners. However, she did not ask the inital questions. No, she cannot be comapred to the rest of the "novices" because again, she is expected to know how to ask questions.
and btw, as far as rpecious piot, I do not use the stuff. I am looking forward to a day when pot is about an uncool as the sweaters and gasahol most of it should be used to make.
Crunchy Frog
(26,548 posts)and had instead enjoyed a pleasant evening with a mild buzz, there would not really be a story. Her novice mistake had resulted in publicizing and discourse on some important issues concerning the legalization of pot.
I think that it should be legal, but if there are problems with the implementation of legalization they should be talked about and not brushed under the carpet.
And I'm sorry I made assumptions about you re the "precious pot" remark.
DonCoquixote
(13,615 posts)Another poster pointed out that she was drinking while doing this.
Now, are we so low on common sense that we do not ask whether dirnking and another drug is a bad idea? Hell, Junior high schoolkids know that is dumb.
Crunchy Frog
(26,548 posts)has a warning that alcohol may accentuate certain effects of the drug. If there is a problem with mixing alcohol and pot, then there should be a warning on the packaging.
BTW, a glass of wine taken with my meds barely has an effect on me. I think it highly unlikely that a glass of chardonnay put her over the edge in this case. I would like to see some empirical scientific research done on drug and alcohol interactions vis a vis pot. The more we understand, the better we can advise.
nomorenomore08
(13,324 posts)Though I confess I've always enjoyed the combo of a joint and a few beers.
noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)Someone who doesn't drink, yet downs a bottle of Vodka is probably not going to have a good experience. She behaved incredibly irresponsibly...she should have done some homework, especially as a so-called journalist. At least in California, most of the clubs provide basic education, and the staff is usually knowledgeable about strains and doses. All edibles have at least basic labelling, and most include dosage info. Her experience is good in that hopefully other newbies will not be as irresponsible as she.
Crunchy Frog
(26,548 posts)than it is to drink a bottle of vodka. It's also far less intuitive that a candy bar would contain 16 doses than it is that a bottle of vodka would be overdoing it.
I question the wisdom of marketing pot as candy at all. People tend to think of candy as being innocent and harmless. I question whether it makes sense to sell a powerful psychoactive substance in that form. I also have real concerns about young children getting their hands on it, and having severe reactions. Children don't read labels, but they certainly recognize candy, and are powerfully drawn to it. Mine certainly are, anyway.
I'm glad that labelling and info are improving in California.
DonCoquixote
(13,615 posts)" People tend to think of candy as being innocent and harmless."
There are heavy narcotic lollipops for those with mouth sores, and there are flavors you can add to cough medicine.
There are lozenges, cough drops,vitamins.
and let's not even get into four loko and other fruit flavored liquor
noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)It is the same as any other medication.
Crunchy Frog
(26,548 posts)The heavy narcotic lollypops are a highly controlled substance, available only through a prescription, and labeled to the hilt with potency, dosage information, and warnings. They are intended to treat severe pain in cancer patients.
Flaovored liquid cough medicine =/= candy. It is also a controlled substance, available only through prescription (I assume you are referring to the narcotic variety), and clearly labeled with dosage and potency and warning information. OTC cough drops pretty much are candy, and certainly not psychoactive. My children take gummi vitamins, and from what I've been able to tell, they are not psychoactive either.
Narcotic lollypop candy:
Mmmmm. Looks yummy!
Marijuana candy:
Naaw, that could never be mistaken for ordinary candy.
And yes, they do contain some important info on the labeling, but the packaging leaves something to be desired IMO.
Sorry, not buying your argument, but I think we're going to have to agree to disagree on this.
noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)The wisdom in marketing edibles is:
1) some people do not and do not want to smoke.
2) the effects of cooked cannabis is different than smoking. I find cooking it works better for pain.
3) there is a demand for edibles. And they are relatively cheap and easy to make, so there is a lot of profit.
As for the children, marijuana is just like any other medication.
Crunchy Frog
(26,548 posts)like this:
and less like this:
considering that it's a potent psychoactive drug.
noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)One of the points of using the plant is that it is more effective than the pharmas. Cough drops, syrups and other meds look like candy too. Are you suggesting people shoot those up as well?
Crunchy Frog
(26,548 posts)I don't think there's much point in arguing it any further.
But where on Earth did you get the "shooting up" thing from? And you really think that eating a few too many cough drops will land you in the same state that Dowd describes?
No, don't bother answering.
noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)Last edited Sun Jun 8, 2014, 12:35 PM - Edit history (1)
As that idiot claims she did. As a non-user, I suggest you LISTEN and educate yourself. And not to that idiot Dowd. You posted a syringe as an example of what "real medicine" looks like. Do you know what is sending kids to rehab? Legal drugs they get from their parents' medicine cabinet, like oxy. Not marijuana.
Crunchy Frog
(26,548 posts)I'm really pretty sure that's not the case. Even if it was, how easy is it to eat that many cough drops at once, compared with eating 1/3 of a candy bar at once?
And if you're going to respond to my posts you might want to try educating yourself. I did not post a picture of a syringe "as an example of what real medicine looks like". I posted a picture of the packaging for a prescription narcotic lollypop (that's "drug candy" to you) that was mentioned by the poster above and compared with pot candy. The fact that you thought it was a picture of a syringe simply highlights the point that I was trying to make. It does look like medication and not candy.
The pot candy looks and is packaged way too much like real candy, and it is way to easy to get an extremely large dose from eating a small quantity of that candy.
The narcotic lollypop that you mistook for a syringe is packaged, IMO, the way that a potent "candy" drug should be. (And no, cough drops and vitamins really are not in the same category. If they were, people would be buying them to get stoned.
And why do you assume that I'm unaware of the problems with abuse of prescription drugs? And why would that issue negate the problems associated with the packaging and labeling of marijuana candy?
DonCoquixote
(13,615 posts)like some formal "THC" stamp...but if the agrument "do not mkae it look like real candy"holds, we will need to get at anything that could be mistaken for candy.
Plus, I do notice that Dowd acknowledged that she was given a nice, long detailed presentation and still acted like an idiot (sarcasm, of course she did not)
noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)And an irresponsible liar. Who would take 18 times the dose of ANY medication?! The fact that it did not kill her, as 18 times the dose of many medications would, should be the moral of her stupidity. I don't how more idiot proof the labels could be, at least in California.
DonCoquixote
(13,615 posts)we do not know how they label stuff in Denver..but, if after getting a special 45 minute class, on designed to be through so as to meet the scrunity of journalists, she STILL did wine and hash candy, she is , at the very least, an IDIOT!
noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)And a liar
Logical
(22,457 posts)Tsiyu
(18,186 posts)two bottles of tequila, I damned sure wouldn't write a column bragging about it.
And I damned sure wouldn't pretend I had any authority to speak for the millions of people who drink responsibly.
The media are idiots.
Dowd is merely the latest dolt to brag about her idiocy, loudly and with no concern for the consequences.
Insipid fools leading other insipid fools and getting paid for it........
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)And that article seemed like complete hogwash to me. If anything, the THC caused her to confront her own anxieties about her ineptness to be a reporter. The entire episode sounded like an anxiety attack to me.
merrily
(45,251 posts)has no common sense and appears to have some kind of Reefer Madness agenda almost a century after it was cool.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)The fabrications in the piece are surreal and frightening. It is almost as if it is a portal or glimpse of today's media.
merrily
(45,251 posts)I did not know until I googled how old the film was. I always assumed it was from the 1950s. Still haven't watched it, though. Don't know if I'd laugh or cry or get angry--and pot is not even one of my issues, except on an abstract level. Smoked for hours one night, couldn't get high. Only made my face hurt. Saw no point in giving it another shot. But a good friend has glaucoma. Or, so he tells me, anyway.
Either way, if a doctor can prescribe morphine and highly addictive heroin replacements, why not pot?
IronLionZion
(45,256 posts)Anything abused or overdosed is bad news for anyone. People have died from chugging too much water too quickly too.
DonCoquixote
(13,615 posts)She got the warning, Brown said. She did what all the reporters did. She listened. She bought some samples I dont remember what exactly. Me and the owner of the dispensary we were at and the assistant manager and the budtender talked with her for 45 minutes at the shop.
It wasnt all, Be careful of edibles. We talked about the difference between shatter and bubble hash. We talked about edibles and how they affect everyone differently. In the context of covering all the bases with a customer, we really went into depth to tell this reporter, who would then tell the world, about marijuana in Colorado.
Tsiyu
(18,186 posts)to cover her own "no impulse control" ass.
What a tool.
noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)By trying to create a problem that does not really exist. They informed her...she ignored them. But look at all the calls for more regulation in this thread alone. Mission Accomplished.
Tsiyu
(18,186 posts)And DUers even....
Score another one on the absolutely ignorant tally; we've got fresh players for their side! Here on DU! Wooooohoooo who needs FOXNoos! We've got Dowd to delude even intelligent DU members.
I would feel like an absolute moran if I took one word of Dowd's seriously.
Common sense loses more battles every day...
noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)Note: only non-users bought into her crap.
noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)I am an experienced user, but tenders still make it a point to tell me about doses. I don't believe her story...I believe the club employees.
DonCoquixote
(13,615 posts)So she got more info than most would, because this was a presentation to the press. But Ms. Todd won't care, because she does not have to care about facts, those are for peasants.
SomethingFishy
(4,876 posts)Had she eaten the proper dose and had a nice little buzz and enjoyed the evening there would have been no story. I read her "piece". In it she also used 2 examples, one a suicide and one a murder, of people who have apparently gone crazy because of edibles. Of course all she did was report the anecdotes. No actual investigation to find out that the edibles had nothing to do with the crimes. Someone might want to tell her that criminals eat edibles too.
Her attempts at Reefer Madness are laughable. And most of the states are laughing, the profit margin is too high for asinine anecdotal evidence to continue to be considered as fact. The American jury is in, Marijuana users are not criminals. The Feds need to get with the program, and the nay sayers can continue to run around like Chicken Little.
DonCoquixote
(13,615 posts)examples:
Judd Legum is the editor of ThinkProgress:
Working on a piece for NYT op-ed page where I pound a liter of vodka and talk about how terrible I feel afterwards http://t.co/H3S0h1hwnU
Judd Legum (@JuddLegum) June 4, 2014
and Dowd herself:
http://www.thecannabist.co/2014/06/05/maureen-dowd-reacts-focused-fun-risks/13196/
Matt Brown gave me a great tour, Dowd said in her statement. There is no mention of edibles in my transcript of our interview, but we were together several hours and no doubt we did chat about it at some point.
(translation: Ms Dowd is covering her ASSets)
Obviously, however, I didnt come away with the knowledge I acquired the hard way that more than a small amount of an edible was ill-advised for someone with a low tolerance level and that edibles are ingested differently and reaction times are quite different. I ate approximately a quarter of the candy bar, which was too much for someone like me.
chervilant
(8,267 posts)is riding in the lead car of the propaganda train, the one they think we Sheeple need to climb aboard.
DonCoquixote
(13,615 posts)she is already doing her "Hillary will win and overshadow Obama" op eds, which this was just a brief respite from. The sad thing is, come 2016, she will either be the great hillary is inevitable cheerleader, or be the ultimate "Hillary never loved me like she shoulda" backstabber.
noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)Do to her? She would be dead, most likely.
ellisonz
(27,709 posts)sendero
(28,552 posts).... that it all happened remotely the way she said, I for one don't believe even SHE is that stupid.
It's just another hit piece from someone with an ax to grind.
DonCoquixote
(13,615 posts)and a legendary ego.
sendero
(28,552 posts)... an ego not earned by any particular skill or accomplishment. Reminds me of a Republican more and more.