I hope I live long enough to see that.

Glad to see at least one of us is an optimist.

However, it seems more exaggerated when the target is a woman. When I studied this phenomena in applied linguistics, a minority male might receive negative comments about his speech, unlike his non-minority counterpart, but a female speaker was usually barraged with negative comments. I wish I could find the studies (we looked over 4 studies; they were small, but the results were almost identical. This was in the early 90's.) because it wasn't just "noticeable" it was "in your face" on how different the speakers were treated, and at the bottom of the ladder...women.

Non-minority male: "I need those reports Tuesday. I don't care if you have to work late!" --- assertive, in charge, just doing his job;
Minority male: same phrase and mannerisms -- aggressive (especially if the minority is African-American), bullying, lording his position over others
Female* -- emotionally charged, shrill, unprepared, frantic

That is from memory of one of the more memorable examples. *I also can't remember if there was a difference when it came to minority females or not.

This is a perfect example. Yes...women "emotionally charged" and "frantic". And the minority male is "agressive"

It is the concept that the woman isn't "really" in charge, so the terms are more unilateral, as if to indicate no real power. Even the minority male comments indicate some position of authority.

I really wish I could find those studies. Granted, as I said, they were small, but I can't even remember in which journals they were published and all my diversity training manuals are gone or packed away.

As a side note, men and women give and receive compliments in different ways. I did a paper on it. Got a B+, though my theory didn't pan out ("Will gay men give and receive compliments more like women?&quot . It was 50/50.

As for your paper.

Since I was in college, I have almost always had a female supervisor, so it wasn't really ever an issue for me. I have had some bad ones, but for the most part, I enjoyed the ones I worked for, especially my last supervisor.

Ah, my paper...that was what I originally thought as well. It just didn't turn out that way. It really was about 50/50. But, the only place I could really do my research was in a gay bar because South Carolina really didn't have any other "gay meeting places." I tried to get to the newly formed GLBT business guild, but the one meeting they had before my paper was due, was cancelled. So, there is always the possibility that persons modified their compliment acceptance based on the location (thinking I was hitting on them), which I noted in my paper.

No one listens to us, though, until a man does a study.

Ok, not gonna start telling my own stories. Too much to type and it'll just piss me off.

we still want to tear our hair out every damn time.

The reason people perceive men and women so differently is because of the insidious conditioning that we receive from the misogynist messages all around us. Raising awareness of these messages is critical if we are to ever combat the conditioning.

Yes. This is so TRUE!

if i were gloria steinem i would just re-issue all my old books. nothing ever changes.

a recent favorite was a conversation i was having with someone who was sure that people went easy on karen lewis (ctu pres) because she was female. the whole thread immediately devolved into comments about her looks, her weight, and of course, how pushy she is.

I reluctantly grabbed my Bible and decided to read a book I hadn't read before. The book of Job. In it the phrase "how can a man be clean when born of a woman?" was made several times.

We have such a long history of patriarchy to fight and it's embedded in our most popular "religion" in this country.

I think until the majority of US citizens have become anything but Christian (with the exception of Muslim), we will never see an end to this. Atheism needs to be promoted more in this country.

It appears that our native American societies were often matriarchal or non gender specific...or equal rights for men and women. I wonder if maybe they weren't more civilized than the white man who took their land away. Europeans were patriarchal, and they brought that wonderful philosophy with them. It's taken a hell of a long time for us to start to wake up to how wrong it is.

And after thousands of years of indoctrination, it's thoroughly woven into the very fabric of our societies.

LGBT people were also treated as equal in some Native American Nations.

To call a powerful woman a "dyke" or "lesbo" was a common insult and in some circles, still is.

..cuz obviously if she doesn't want to sleep with him she must be a "lezbo!"

They seem to be some of the favorites on DU, based on past history.

she got fired.

May she land a job!

Mahalo, she!

about former Alberta Premier Alison Redford by someone in her own (Progressive Conservative) party. That she was a 'bully' who had 'tantrums' and 'was not a nice lady'.

My mother and I wanted to puke. We picked up on the language and sexism right away. The men we know didn't clue in at all. Sad, I say.

From your link...