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KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
Thu Jun 5, 2014, 05:07 PM Jun 2014

Actual book title: "I Wish My Kids Had Cancer: A Family Surviving the Autism Epidemic"



http://www.amazon.com/Wish-Kids-Had-Cancer-Surviving/dp/1606720708

I Wish My Kids Had Cancer is a father’s gripping, real glimpse of his family’s struggle to survive with two children with Autism. The book intimately, honestly, and powerfully, addresses the emotional, social, financial, political and medical aspects of a family fighting for their very existence. Learn about the struggle, the epidemic and Help Families In Need! Support Autism Through Song! Download the song “State of Emergency” by world-renowned recording artist Sara Hickman. ALL Proceeds Donated to help Families with Autism! Visit www.iwishmykidshadcancer.com to download or visit www.sarahickman.com to download this powerful, emotionally charged song written in response to this book. Encourage others to listen and download! Help provide hope for those with Autism!


Hope for those with Autism?! By wishing we had f'ing cancer??!! Who in their right mind would write this, let alone publish it??
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Actual book title: "I Wish My Kids Had Cancer: A Family Surviving the Autism Epidemic" (Original Post) KamaAina Jun 2014 OP
I love this review though.... Liberal Veteran Jun 2014 #1
because having toxic chemicals poured into your body, puking, and possibly dying is so much better. liberal_at_heart Jun 2014 #2
And having dead kids is better than having disabled kids XemaSab Jun 2014 #24
As horrible as the title is, I can understand it is some sense. Behind the Aegis Jun 2014 #3
I was thinking much the same thing Savannahmann Jun 2014 #12
Let Me Be Very Clear...... angelic4296 Jun 2014 #47
Thanks for your thoughtful post Lefta Dissenter Aug 2014 #52
Is it possible... sendero Jun 2014 #4
more money doesn't necessarily mean faster results. We still haven't cured cancer or AIDS and those liberal_at_heart Jun 2014 #7
He is perpetuating a stigma, and a fear. He is exploiting his children. n/t Jefferson23 Jun 2014 #11
I know a guy raising two autistic children.. sendero Jun 2014 #13
You don't know anything about me, and if you enjoy perpetuating stigmas and fear, Jefferson23 Jun 2014 #14
I am autistic. Shivering Jemmy Jun 2014 #27
I don't get the offense, or perhaps you overreacted? moriah Jun 2014 #33
I did raise an aspie son, liberalhistorian Jun 2014 #29
+100. Jefferson23 Jun 2014 #41
Where do you get the idea that he thinks it's "easy"? nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #35
Is it possible.. sendero Jun 2014 #38
Based on the many, many 1-star reviews I suspect I'm not... nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #45
Yeah that has to be the most fucked up thing in writing, that I've seen in a long time. Rex Jun 2014 #5
Love the Mr. Yuk avvie, fellow Autie! KamaAina Jun 2014 #6
Thanks! It is how I feel most days. Rex Jun 2014 #8
The title represents a huge degree of thoughtlessness as to what SheilaT Jun 2014 #9
I so wish I could write that! KamaAina Jun 2014 #22
I recently made a post that SheilaT Jun 2014 #28
Ugh, despicable and clueless. It is a flaw of nature that children cannot choose their parents. Jefferson23 Jun 2014 #10
Mom always told me they do. KamaAina Jun 2014 #23
I think you're right about that! Jefferson23 Jun 2014 #40
I have a fair amount of experience with the parents of children with profound autism. Zorra Jun 2014 #15
It's not just the title, it is the associations he is making...they are wrong and Jefferson23 Jun 2014 #16
I agree. nt Zorra Jun 2014 #17
Thank you, perhaps someone will get that across to him. Jefferson23 Jun 2014 #18
He may be desperate for the money. Ilsa Jun 2014 #21
Funny you should mention Alzheimer's KamaAina Jun 2014 #25
I have a friend with an autistic child. Manifestor_of_Light Jun 2014 #19
Texas is a horrible state for people with Ilsa Jun 2014 #20
You had me at Kalidurga Jun 2014 #34
My mom has a 49-year-old son with high-functioning autism. KamaAina Jun 2014 #26
And without those 52,566 posts DU would be immeasurably impoverished. proverbialwisdom Jul 2014 #48
Mahalo nui loa, E proverbial! KamaAina Jul 2014 #49
Likewise! proverbialwisdom Aug 2014 #50
What a perverted title. nt valerief Jun 2014 #30
+1 nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #37
It's hard to find words for this but it begs for comment loyalsister Jun 2014 #31
One of my sons has autism, and I sure as fuck don't wish cancer on him. Crunchy Frog Jun 2014 #32
Speaking with friends who are published, titles often are chosen to satisfy the publishers. Gravitycollapse Jun 2014 #36
I wished I had cancer instead of major depression at times. Are_grits_groceries Jun 2014 #39
I Wish my Weird Kids Would Just Die Already. CBGLuthier Jun 2014 #42
Spectrumites and family members take note: We have our own DU group. KamaAina Jun 2014 #43
I guess the ones of us who have not read it StarryNite Jun 2014 #44
And a ONE STAR average too! alp227 Jun 2014 #46
my standing policy bluestateguy Aug 2014 #51
The title "50 Shades Of Grey" is not offensive in and of itself. KamaAina Aug 2014 #54
beautiful children. I hope they never read that book, but they probably will! Sunlei Aug 2014 #53

Liberal Veteran

(22,239 posts)
1. I love this review though....
Thu Jun 5, 2014, 05:16 PM
Jun 2014
This review is from: I Wish My Kids Had Cancer: A Family Surviving the Autism Epidemic (Paperback)
Having discovered his children are afflicted with an incurable malady that renders them a strain on society a brave father embarks on a journey to end his children's suffering as well as his own. Seeking out the curse of cancer Michael Alan faces many battles along the way including but not limited to childhood diabetes and fighting of the breasts of cancer. In the end unable to end his children through use of cancer he must survive the Autism pandemic with only the help of autistic children. Thinks look grim for the intrepid hero...

Behind the Aegis

(53,936 posts)
3. As horrible as the title is, I can understand it is some sense.
Thu Jun 5, 2014, 05:21 PM
Jun 2014

Like mental health issues, autism seems to be treated as a "fake illness." There tends to be more sympathy toward a child and more support for the family when the disease is understood as opposed to misunderstood on a greater scale. Look at some of the threads here to see how people view mental health issues and those who have it; then view threads written by people suffering from a physical malady, such as cancer, the responses can be astoundingly different.

 

Savannahmann

(3,891 posts)
12. I was thinking much the same thing
Thu Jun 5, 2014, 08:05 PM
Jun 2014

People understand that Cancer risks may rise, but they are never eliminated. So a person who has cancer, society in general understands that they may not have done anything "wrong" to get it. Especially kids with cancer. Society tends to have a knee jerk reaction of sympathy and compassion towards that image, the child with cancer, that is nearly unanimous.

However, mental health issues are one of those things. People view it much like they did/do HIV/AIDS in the 1980's. They want to move away, to shun the person with those challenges. Ignorance makes people afraid, and people are ignorant of the causes and various mental health issues.

It doesn't help that everyone in the world is claiming that Autism is triggered by their personal cause celeb. I've seen Autism linked to Global Warming, Jet Contrails, Plastic drinking glasses, and let's not forget Inoculations. All of those groups can claim that Autism is linked to their cause because we don't know what causes it. I'm not sure how many other groups swear that Autism is caused by whatever they are fighting. I'll be honest, whenever I hear someone arguing about something, I almost immediately lose interest in that person, and usually that group, as soon as they say that Autism is caused by this. No, I am not saying that Global Warming is not happening. The causation links are at best circumstantial, and at worst, just an effort to get more people behind opposing whatever this group is fighting against.

So on one hand, it's no wonder that people view Autism with such suspicion and fear. It might be contagious, it might be something you can catch. So imagine the families difficulties, first in finding treatment for their children, and second trying to assure people that this is not contagious. Cancer, we know we can get it, but we know it is not contagious. Just because you have it, doesn't mean I will get it from you. Then there is the treatment. The treatment for Autism is hampered by the fact that we know so little about it. On the other hand, Cancer gets lots of money and treatment options. Some even work for years, decades, and longer. With Cancer, you know there is serious research being carried out at many fine Universities and Laboratories. New breakthrough treatments are rolling out sometimes twice a month. There is hope that the true cure for Cancer is just around the corner.

On the other hand, research into Autism is not exactly flush with funding. Mostly it is studies by Doctors who report what seemed to work, and what didn't, and one breakthrough that worked for a patient doesn't seem to be really working for any others. There is no understanding of the condition, and there is no understanding of how it progresses. There is less hope for a cure, or treatment, that shows good or great chances of improvement.

Downs Syndrome, everyone knows that the people who have that are going to be slow, and developmentally disabled. We know there is nothing we can do to treat it, it is a genetic issue, and one we are powerless (for now) to change. But we also know that Downs Syndrome people can lead full lives, they will need care certainly, but they aren't generally speaking violent or abusive. They are gentle, and loving as a general rule of thumb. Sometimes I wonder if the best of humanity is in these simple people, who seem to get such joy out of the simplest of pleasures. Who see the best in all of us, even when it isn't really there.

I've had some limited dealings with developmentally disabled children. Sometimes I felt ashamed that I couldn't look at the world with the same joy and love and positive emotional response. I never saw them angry, and I never saw them hate. That is far more than I can say about the rest of humanity, and yes I include myself in that statement.

angelic4296

(1 post)
47. Let Me Be Very Clear......
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 01:55 PM
Jun 2014

I am a therapist in private practice. 90% of my caseload is cancer patients; in fact, my office is within an Oncology medical practice. Before going into private practice, I had YEARS of running programs, both school and community-based, that included autistic children of all ages and levels of functioning. Therefore, I have experience with both ends...mental and intellectual disabilities, and people dealing with cancer as a physical diagnosis (although cancer is as much a mental health battle as it is a physical one).

With all of that said, let me be very clear about what I say next: THERE IS NO COMPARISON. Since January alone (I have been in this specialty for over 4 years now), I have watched MANY of my patients pass from cancer, and it is a MISERABLE life and an even more MISERABLE death, with the chemo killing many of them in a variety of painful ways before the cancer could. This past November I watched a mother bury her 18-year-old after a brutal 2-year battle that at the end left this kid suffocating to death on her own fluid.

The response SHOULD be different. VERY VERY different. I do not believe, for one second, that 90% of people with mental illnesses are faking illnesses. Nobody WANTS to be labeled as autistic or asperger's (and if one does, they've got a personality disorder to beat the band). However, I also do not believe for one second that either of those diagnoses are even COMPARABLE, in the same BALL PARK, as cancer, especially in children.

One of my greatest gripes, and why I left the public mental health sector, was the "pity me/nobody gets it" attitude of many parents, as if they wanted a medal for giving their child good care and demonstrating patience. I have HAD parents, to my face, compare autism or bipolar or histrionic personality disorder TO cancer or cystic fibrosis in kids. It took every ounce of professionalism in those cases not to THROW THEM OUT OF MY OFFICE.

It's not that many people view mental health issues in kids as fake; it's that professionals in the field lose patience with the attitude of many of those children's parents, as demonstrated by this father's completely APPALLING choice for the title of his book. He's exhibit A of what I am talking about.

sendero

(28,552 posts)
4. Is it possible...
Thu Jun 5, 2014, 05:21 PM
Jun 2014

.... that what he meant was that if it were cancer at least there would be a lot of research into causes and cures?

Autism is just sitting there, it is an epidemic yet as far as I can tell we don't know much more about it now (that is useful) than we did a decade ago.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
7. more money doesn't necessarily mean faster results. We still haven't cured cancer or AIDS and those
Thu Jun 5, 2014, 05:25 PM
Jun 2014

get lots of funding dollars. It may take decades to find out what causes autism. Frankly at this point I would rather have more money put towards helping autistic people get better educations and help for when they age out of the education system. There is virtually no help for autistic people once they are over 21.

sendero

(28,552 posts)
13. I know a guy raising two autistic children..
Thu Jun 5, 2014, 09:08 PM
Jun 2014

... if you think it is easy I hope it doesn't happen to you.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
14. You don't know anything about me, and if you enjoy perpetuating stigmas and fear,
Thu Jun 5, 2014, 09:16 PM
Jun 2014

buy his clueless book.

moriah

(8,311 posts)
33. I don't get the offense, or perhaps you overreacted?
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 01:39 AM
Jun 2014

I saw it as saying that raising a child with autism is tough and a situation he wouldn't wish on anyone. Not anything against anyone with Autism, or suggesting that people with Autism shouldn't raise children, or anything else.

If I'm not getting it, please clarify.

liberalhistorian

(20,815 posts)
29. I did raise an aspie son,
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 12:55 AM
Jun 2014

and as a single mother. And I wouldn't trade him for anything and I resent the notion that anyone with ASD is a useless burden and I reject and fight against the "curebie" groups like Autism Speaks (or Autism Squeaks, as it s derisively, and rightfully, known in the autistic self-advocacy community) and the hate groups that disseminate and promote misinformation and false propaganda and that work to implement policies detrimental to those with ASD, especially aspires like my son, with the Queen of said groups being FAAAS, which should be completely shit down.

And spare me the "heroic sacrificing parents" BS, which turns the children into a useless burden. It's a good thing Temple Grandin's parents didn't feel that way and actually advocated for her, or her inventions in the field of animal science, which have revolutionized farming and ranching practices and immeasurably aided farmers and ranchers, would not exist. And some of our greatest scientific discoveries and theories, and inventions and artistic creations, came from those on the spectrum (Einstein, anyone?)

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
35. Where do you get the idea that he thinks it's "easy"?
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 01:48 AM
Jun 2014

As overwhelmingly difficult as autism can be to deal with, it doesn't justify wishing death on one's own child as this "author" appears to be doing.

sendero

(28,552 posts)
38. Is it possible..
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 07:02 AM
Jun 2014

... that you are completely misinterpreting the title of the book? Because I think you might be.

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
45. Based on the many, many 1-star reviews I suspect I'm not...
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 03:05 PM
Jun 2014


Even if he isn't actually wishing death on the kid, he seems to be suggesting that losing his child to cancer would entail less suffering (for the parent) than a lifetime of autism. Which is still a pretty messed up way of thinking - sure, one might have such dark thoughts at various times, but they don't have to write a whole book based on them.
 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
5. Yeah that has to be the most fucked up thing in writing, that I've seen in a long time.
Thu Jun 5, 2014, 05:21 PM
Jun 2014

I am autistic, I guess I should die from cancer. If that was my father, I would disown him and look for a father that didn't hate me for being born.

I have a friend dieing from cancer right now, DIEING. I guess I should go tell her that she is luckier than me. Since this dad wrote a book wishing his kids had cancer over autism.

Some fucked up people in this world. Don't know what else to say, but that I feel SORRY for his children.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
8. Thanks! It is how I feel most days.
Thu Jun 5, 2014, 05:29 PM
Jun 2014

I would say that the title hurts me inside somewhere, but I've heard worse things said about us. Such ignorant things to say, we only have this one chance at life...some of us were just born with issues that we cannot solve by throwing money at a doctor.

Hope you are having a good day KA! That dad needs professional counseling imo!

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
9. The title represents a huge degree of thoughtlessness as to what
Thu Jun 5, 2014, 07:42 PM
Jun 2014

having a child with cancer is really about.

Maybe if someone wrote a book titled: "I Wish My Kid Were Autistic: A Family Surviving Childhood Cancer" would make the point.

I have never experienced serious illness or impairment either myself or within my family. Oh, there have been various illnesses, and my oldest son has Asperger's, but nothing life-threatening or that profoundly alters things as having a severely autistic child would be. Or one with Down Syndrome. Or some long term debilitating disease.

But I am bothered by that book title.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
28. I recently made a post that
Thu Jun 5, 2014, 11:54 PM
Jun 2014

was needlessly and thoughtlessly hurtful to a certain category of people. I don't want to say more, because there's no need, but the response from someone from that category made me think a lot harder about what I say. I'd actually intended my post to be ironic or sarcastic, but it certainly did not come across that way to some people.

I will probably inadvertent insult or hurt others in the future, but the key word, I hope, is inadvertently.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
10. Ugh, despicable and clueless. It is a flaw of nature that children cannot choose their parents.
Thu Jun 5, 2014, 07:50 PM
Jun 2014

It is one thing to describe the difficulty of retaining services but he goes so far off
appropriate..sickening.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
23. Mom always told me they do.
Thu Jun 5, 2014, 11:43 PM
Jun 2014

In which case, I went 1 for 2. Her, yeah. Dad, who was out of the picture by age 7, not so much.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
15. I have a fair amount of experience with the parents of children with profound autism.
Thu Jun 5, 2014, 09:39 PM
Jun 2014

Autism is a very difficult phenomenon to deal with, and I have yet to encounter a single parent in my experience who, IMO, has escaped emotional and psychological damage from raising children with profound autism.

I've seen the same, or very similar, type(s) of damage in family members, particularly spouses, who are primary caregivers for beloved family members with Alzheimer's, or other types of dementia.

These are pretty tough situations to cope with for even the strongest among us.

I guess what I'm trying to say here is, maybe the author has, like, ya know, totally, or almost totally, gone off the rails from the stress.

Writing a book with an awful title like that would be a pretty good indication of emotional damage from stress.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
16. It's not just the title, it is the associations he is making...they are wrong and
Thu Jun 5, 2014, 09:58 PM
Jun 2014
he more than his children, needs help. He's exploiting them.

Ilsa

(61,691 posts)
21. He may be desperate for the money.
Thu Jun 5, 2014, 10:39 PM
Jun 2014

It's rare to have insurance, even medicaid, that pays for therapies. And the children may always be unaware of the book. Yes, you can call it exploitation. But it might be the only way he can keep a roof over their heads. It's easy to go broke paying for therapy.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
25. Funny you should mention Alzheimer's
Thu Jun 5, 2014, 11:44 PM
Jun 2014

a site I go to daily to help feed people, and animals, also has an autism component. Right next to the Alzheimer's one.

http://www.thehungersite.com

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
19. I have a friend with an autistic child.
Thu Jun 5, 2014, 10:29 PM
Jun 2014

She has a 37 year old daughter with high functioning autism. However she refuses to put her daughter in an institution because the state of Texas puts the women on The Pill, lets the men inmates rape them, and don't separate the sexes. She won't let the state of Texas condone rape of grown women with the mind of a five-year-old.

She told me that she has known several women with lower-functioning autistic children who just dropped dead from the stress.

So I can see if this man's mind is completely out of it.



Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
34. You had me at
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 01:44 AM
Jun 2014

Texas is a horrible state for people. Women, minorities, children, and men, yep pretty much anyone that is alive in Texas. I hear Austin is nice though it's like an oasis of sanity.

Any way the title is horrible, I can't believe someone read that and published it anyway. I would have gone with something like "They can hear you," just because I have heard the way people talk around other people with different mental capacities.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
26. My mom has a 49-year-old son with high-functioning autism.
Thu Jun 5, 2014, 11:47 PM
Jun 2014

She refused to put her son in an institution, even after Dr. Leo Kanner, who coined the word "autism", told her to do so.

I am an only child. If she had done that, I would have 0 posts.

proverbialwisdom

(4,959 posts)
48. And without those 52,566 posts DU would be immeasurably impoverished.
Thu Jul 31, 2014, 08:02 PM
Jul 2014

I think TMR would tremendously appreciate hearing the story of your mom's courage,

http://thinkingmomsrevolution.com
https://twitter.com/thinkingmomsrev
http://teamtmr.org

among any number of other similar groups of outstanding parents. Think about it.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
31. It's hard to find words for this but it begs for comment
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 01:25 AM
Jun 2014

I recently saw a Ted talk where a young woman who uses a wheelchair talked about "inspiration porn" to point out that some nondisabled people seem to exploit that stereotype in pursuit of some sense of self gratification.

This book sounds like "persecuted hero" porn where this man objectifies himself. He's rewarded by book sales and attention by advancing the pitiful hero stereotype. It is absolutely contemptible that this guy shamelessly degrades his own children along with others who have autism. To me personally that title says "a lot of your friends might be better off dead or dying."

This is a truly revolting expression of self pity. He gets sympathy and hero status for the nightmarish existence he endures because his children are alive, and his parenting skills are not questioned?

Crunchy Frog

(26,579 posts)
32. One of my sons has autism, and I sure as fuck don't wish cancer on him.
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 01:28 AM
Jun 2014

Maybe my kid's not as severe as his, but still.

I'm sure as fuck not going to download that song. I don't fucking want help from people like that.

Gravitycollapse

(8,155 posts)
36. Speaking with friends who are published, titles often are chosen to satisfy the publishers.
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 01:52 AM
Jun 2014

And in order to generate controversy which then generates demand which then generates revenue.

The title of this book is probably more a reflection of society than it is the author.

Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
39. I wished I had cancer instead of major depression at times.
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 08:13 AM
Jun 2014

At least people believe you have a real illness.

In addition, don't minimize the physical and psychological pain depression causes. Yes, it causes physical pain. It is unremitting 24/7. In my experience, there was no relief for weeks.

I'm not going to judge that father. That family's hell is one only they will truly know. Try to imagine it from their point of view not yours.

That wish may be one he has at moments like I did and not a constant thought.

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
42. I Wish my Weird Kids Would Just Die Already.
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 08:23 AM
Jun 2014

I guess that title was one of the ones they chose to reject when they chose this sickening and offensive title.

StarryNite

(9,442 posts)
44. I guess the ones of us who have not read it
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 12:42 PM
Jun 2014

should not really criticize the whole book. We only know the title, which sounds bad but remember, you can't judge a book by it's cover.

alp227

(32,013 posts)
46. And a ONE STAR average too!
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 03:07 PM
Jun 2014

about 200 one-star reviews vs 15 or so 4-5 star reviews. Sheesh this book has got to be the worst trolling ever.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
54. The title "50 Shades Of Grey" is not offensive in and of itself.
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 12:08 PM
Aug 2014

How about "I Wish My Kids Were White: A Family Surviving The Mixed-Race Epidemic"?

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
53. beautiful children. I hope they never read that book, but they probably will!
Fri Aug 1, 2014, 09:14 AM
Aug 2014

No one gets 'perfect' children in any world! Children always take work and time.

This author seems like a father who will move out one day soon, divorce and leave the kids, his wife, his family with the 'burdens' of his life. Just don't have more kids Mr. Author, you're not ready for them.

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