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This Computer Genius Just Fixed Our Democracyby Josh Dieker at Blue Nation Review
http://bluenationreview.com/hi-tech-just-fixed-democracy/
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Over the years, the Supreme Court has heard numerous cases on redistricting and a few principals have been put in place to guide the process. Districts should be compact. That means the geographic shape of the district shouldnt have long tendrils, nor should it snake about the map, picking up some neighborhoods, while cutting others out. The districts must also be contiguous, meaning that they cant have islands spread out all over the place.
Ideally local political subdivisions, such as cities or counties will be kept together, and communities of interest should be maintained. Its this requirement, laid out in a 1995 case called Miller v. Johnson, that has given state legislatures carte blanche to draw lines essentially however they like. Though the courts intent was to create a guideline to reduce political gerrymandering, they instead created a principle so vague that it can cover a variety of sins. Its unclear what a community of interest is, and so legislators use it as an excuse to ignore compactness and local political subdivisions, and draw crazy, spindly districts that only make sense if you look at them from the perspective of protecting the majority partys position.
To combat the political manipulation of the districts, a few states have gone to non-partisan redistricting committees, but this solution has a limited impact. The committee members are appointed politically and so the question of political manipulation remains. Software engineer Brian Olson has proposed another solution.
Olson wrote a program to draw districts that are both compact, and equal in population. It follows neighborhood boundaries by using census blocks to avoid drawing arbitrary lines through properties, and it takes politics totally out of the equation. This kind of solution would require some changes to the legal rules about redistricting that have been put in place by Congress and by the Supreme Court over the years, but it might just put both parties back on an equal footing going into each election, rather than protecting whichever party happened to be in power during the redistricting year.
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tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)It's basically the same technology used to create gerrymandered districts minus the analysis of politcal affiliation.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)if they're not using the word "fix" in the same sense as when one speaks of getting a dog fixed.
Bandit
(21,475 posts)Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)this fair redistricting process will inexorably create Democratic Party dominance forever!
Republicans would cry "how unfair!"
Majority representation? Our Founding Fathers never said anything about computers!
FiveGoodMen
(20,018 posts)that will actually lead to GOP victories.
In a sane country that just wouldn't be possible. Too many people in every region would know better.
NuttyFluffers
(6,811 posts)and there's no talk about the access of money in all this, or the advertisement issue which is the whole point to all that money? way to miss the point.
go do real work, genius. you obviously cannot understand the grand complexity of human interactions and motivations if you think this delightfully naïve attempt will work. we're humans, not predictable and selfless angels. your understanding of logic and common sense is woefully not shared throughout the populace.
Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)Okay, many geniuses are dyslexic...
phantom power
(25,966 posts)Gerrymandering doesn't happen by accident, because humans can't draw up sane district polygons on our own. It happens because humans deliberately want to draw up insane boundaries, to game the system.
A computer program to draw sane, unbiased polygons will be ignored as a solution, because the people who gerrymander want exactly the opposite.
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)Well now, let's think about machines for a moment. They are extremely impartial, very predictable, not subject to moral suasion, value neutral, and very long lived in their functioning. Now let's think about what machines are made of, in the light of Sheldrake's morphogenetic field theory. Machines are made of metal, glass, gold, silicon, plastic; they are made of what the earth is made of. Now wouldn't it be strange if biology is a way for earth to alchemically transform itself into a self-reflecting thing.
In which case then, what we're headed for inevitably, what we are in fact creating is a world run by machines. And once these machines are in place, they can be expected to manage our economies, languages, social aspirations, and so forth, in such a way that we stop killing each other, stop starving each other, stop destroying land, and so forth. Actually the fear of being ruled by machines is the male ego's fear of relinquishing control of the planet to the maternal matrix of Gaia.
~Terence McKenna
Flying Squirrel
(3,041 posts)And saw this picture?
Computer programmers... Gotta love 'em!
lovemydog
(11,833 posts)That's hilarious!
cascadiance
(19,537 posts)WHEN CRABS ROAR
(3,813 posts)they want majorities and power.
bearssoapbox
(1,408 posts)That right there would have the rethugs screaming 'UNFAIR!!!!'.
Because they know that all things being equal means that they will lose.
The only way they can win is to cheat and try to keep people from voting.
They show it, and prove it, almost every day.
edit: forgot sentence
Beartracks
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