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I AM DYING PLS HELP IN DENEVER (Original Post) trumad Jun 2014 OP
ha ! steve2470 Jun 2014 #1
Dowd is such an idiot. blackspade Jun 2014 #6
Mauron Dowd has always been an idiot. Fuddnik Jun 2014 #10
The New York Times employs two of the biggest idiots writing today Blecht Jun 2014 #49
Ah, thanks. progressoid Jun 2014 #7
That does bring up a valid concern WaitWut Jun 2014 #8
people should never let children or pets near any drugs or drinks or poisons or the pool. Sunlei Jun 2014 #25
I eagerly await how you explain this is different than with alcohol. (nt) jeff47 Jun 2014 #28
Next time maybe she should take a fistful of ibuprofen FourScore Jun 2014 #9
Hey, they hired David Brooks........ Fuddnik Jun 2014 #11
Exactly. sendero Jun 2014 #22
Acetaminophen might be better... jmowreader Jun 2014 #58
i specifically wrote NO COPS I AM ON DURGS Enrique Jun 2014 #2
Shes a dolt madokie Jun 2014 #3
Dowd Thespian2 Jun 2014 #4
Hey ya, Trumad.... If pot can, as that 'column' shows make her forget her anti-Democrat snark, hlthe2b Jun 2014 #5
Dowd should be more careful, she may kill her last living brain cell. mountain grammy Jun 2014 #12
yeah its not that quick lol CarrieLynne Jun 2014 #13
Dowd is an idiot & a hack BUT medical marijuana needs to be standardized KittyWampus Jun 2014 #14
It won't ever be able to be standardized, except for species. No more 'over-regulation' please. Sunlei Jun 2014 #31
Yes, it will. It already has begun. And just because it's a "plant" doesn't mean when dispensing it KittyWampus Jun 2014 #35
we just want the pretty packages :) Sunlei Jun 2014 #38
and people need to know what and how much they are ingesting noiretextatique Jun 2014 #50
Dowd should just stick to Cocaine. tenderfoot Jun 2014 #15
I like Willie Nelson's advice: klook Jun 2014 #16
Exactly otohara Jun 2014 #29
lol!! good advice! Sunlei Jun 2014 #32
The experence can't possibly make her writing any worse..... (nt) Paladin Jun 2014 #17
Somebody ingested libodem Jun 2014 #18
I get very freaked out when somebody writes a message on my back. TexasTowelie Jun 2014 #40
What if it says libodem Jun 2014 #42
Thank you for the kind remarks. TexasTowelie Jun 2014 #44
Sounds like she forgot to read the fine print on the package nolabels Jun 2014 #19
at least she knew enough not to call the police, "help I'm so stoneddd" Sunlei Jun 2014 #34
She might have a very low threshold when it comes to cannabis nolabels Jun 2014 #53
not really a low threshold, she should have taken 'one candy'. Its like one hit hash..16 hits would Sunlei Jun 2014 #54
I don't think you understand, but of course it might be a little too hazy for you also nolabels Jun 2014 #55
I'm sure she learned her lesson and will eat one candy from now on. Or go back to her wine. Sunlei Jun 2014 #57
Take a jerk and get her stoned... n/t malthaussen Jun 2014 #20
Most coherent piece she's ever written. Lizzie Poppet Jun 2014 #21
What fascinates me about this whole episode---is... trumad Jun 2014 #26
Also did no research ahead of time, apparently. Some journalist! (n/t) klook Jun 2014 #46
hahaha!! first timers are funnyy- now your employer will fire you when you take the pp test Sunlei Jun 2014 #23
When your op ed writer is not as smart as Towelie, it might be time to hire someone new... Johonny Jun 2014 #24
Well, I'm looking for a job. TexasTowelie Jun 2014 #41
DAMN, trumad! You scared the shit out of me with that headline. I damn near plowed my ChisolmTrailDem Jun 2014 #27
Does anyone else think her so-called experience is just bullshit? Sheldon Cooper Jun 2014 #30
Yes, I think it's highly embellished. Sorry for unintentional pun. KittyWampus Jun 2014 #36
Yes, I have thought it might be a strong possibility that she never ingested it Uncle Joe Jun 2014 #37
Goddammit trumad you nearly gave me a heart attack NuclearDem Jun 2014 #33
How incredibly LAME. It's like something Niles Crane would imagine. WinkyDink Jun 2014 #39
Hunter S. Thompson wouldn't have wiped his ass with that drivel 0rganism Jun 2014 #43
Dislike for Dowd RobinA Jun 2014 #45
I believe the bar was labeled Tsiyu Jun 2014 #47
I agree...she was totally irresponsible noiretextatique Jun 2014 #51
I can guarantee that a tender warned her in advance.. frylock Jun 2014 #48
my tenders are very helpful re: doses noiretextatique Jun 2014 #52
she should've gone to ky and drank a gallon of bourbon spanone Jun 2014 #56

Fuddnik

(8,846 posts)
10. Mauron Dowd has always been an idiot.
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 09:50 AM
Jun 2014

The sad thing is, she actually makes more sense on dope, than she does normally.

WaitWut

(71 posts)
8. That does bring up a valid concern
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 09:46 AM
Jun 2014

That does bring up a valid concern on edibles and small children. As well as proper dosing for guidelines for the non-user.

I can only imagine how she felt the first time she had trash can punch. I bet she wouldn't able to do that interview the next day.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
25. people should never let children or pets near any drugs or drinks or poisons or the pool.
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 10:44 AM
Jun 2014

or chocolate in excess..

FourScore

(9,704 posts)
9. Next time maybe she should take a fistful of ibuprofen
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 09:48 AM
Jun 2014

or some other legal drug. Write an article on that too!

Dowd's an overrated idiot who doesn't even write well. I have no idea why she's even a columnist at the NYT's.

jmowreader

(50,453 posts)
58. Acetaminophen might be better...
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 04:02 AM
Jun 2014

No, don't do that: Acetaminophen WILL kill you DEAD AS A DOORNAIL if you OD on it.

Thespian2

(2,741 posts)
4. Dowd
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 09:06 AM
Jun 2014

is simply against legal pot...trumad's post is far superior to her idiotic column in Corporate NY Times.

hlthe2b

(101,730 posts)
5. Hey ya, Trumad.... If pot can, as that 'column' shows make her forget her anti-Democrat snark,
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 09:07 AM
Jun 2014

then Denverites just might let her stay.... (but ridicule her endlessly for her incredible ignorance)

CarrieLynne

(497 posts)
13. yeah its not that quick lol
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 10:06 AM
Jun 2014

when i eat something it takes 1-2 hours to kick in...certainly not while u are still eating it lol

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
14. Dowd is an idiot & a hack BUT medical marijuana needs to be standardized
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 10:07 AM
Jun 2014

and regulated just like any other drug.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
31. It won't ever be able to be standardized, except for species. No more 'over-regulation' please.
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 11:29 AM
Jun 2014

This is a plant.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
35. Yes, it will. It already has begun. And just because it's a "plant" doesn't mean when dispensing it
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 11:34 AM
Jun 2014

as a drug, it doesn't need to meet standards.

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
50. and people need to know what and how much they are ingesting
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 03:21 PM
Jun 2014

I would never take a medication without knowing the proper dosage, so I always ask. What she did was foolish and irresponsible. Ingredients, including dosage information, are usually on the label...at least in California. Still...a newbie downing an entire cookie is just as dumb as a person who does not drink downing a fifth of vodka. Not smart.

libodem

(19,288 posts)
18. Somebody ingested
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 10:31 AM
Jun 2014

Last edited Fri Jun 6, 2014, 12:28 PM - Edit history (1)

16 times the recommended dosage in to a clean and inexperienced vessel. Hoo boy.

I had a friend who is relatively seasoned in the ways of the world, eat a brownie, from her son. Her experience was too strong as well. She was miserable all night. Her husband offered to massage her back to sooth her. She told him she didn't want him to touch her. Who turns down a back rub? Yep, a person can just get too high.

(Glad you did not stay away for ever, Trumad, even if we have had some philosophical differences)

libodem

(19,288 posts)
42. What if it says
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 12:26 PM
Jun 2014

The message is the massage. And I think you are the coolest. Thanks for the heads up, brother.

nolabels

(13,133 posts)
19. Sounds like she forgot to read the fine print on the package
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 10:33 AM
Jun 2014

It's called adverse reaction warning. We should send her thank you letters for helping to prove that Pot doesn't cause death or dying.

For those among us who have had similar reactions and or cannot handle or deal with such, often find that to merely to stay away as the appropriate response. My experience with any type of dosage of pot over forty years ago made me know it know it wasn't for me. At the time it seemed everybody i knew below the age of thirty was into it. After all these years i am glad it happened that way and i wasn't able to follow the crowd.

If you are looking for new kind or better kind of high, you are probably not going to find it flushing your brain with strange chemicals. But i would never be the hypocrite to say you shouldn't try if you felt the need. Just remember, read the fine print

On edit: After reading her actual column she does blame her problem on the fine print and probably because she cannot take personal responsibility and blame herself for her own stupidity. But obviously she is quite interested in following the crowd otherwise why would she not have done it in the first place

nolabels

(13,133 posts)
53. She might have a very low threshold when it comes to cannabis
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 08:44 PM
Jun 2014

It could be for any number of reasons and she might have a very low threshold on other things. Everybody's body is different, if even just slightly. My body is, or least my mind is wired up to make it that way. I was always treated as kind of different kid when young and never knew why. After many years is missed diagnoses and fifty years, my autistic / Asperger's characteristics were pinpointed. With this type of issue, peoples neurons get over populated during inception inside the womb. Small things that most people can handle might just be a tipping point for an autistic person. Sometimes an autistic person or a person that leans that way can get overstimulated very easily.

I can identify with the symptoms because i have been there. Its not really a good feeling but more of an feeling of being out of control. This especially true with the concerns of those cognitive functions (which pot effects to a large degree) where the puzzle that is reality has to be put together in a second or two. Its a feeling of being overwhelmed by incoming stimulus and your mind is failing to interpret it correctly on most levels.

Not that i am saying i sympathize with her, but more seeing where she was and how her stupidity put her there. She was in very little danger from the drugs and also she doesn't understand that she is trying blame the rest of world for her stupidity.

Some With Autism Diagnosis Can Overcome Symptoms, Study Finds.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1145149

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
54. not really a low threshold, she should have taken 'one candy'. Its like one hit hash..16 hits would
Sat Jun 7, 2014, 09:14 AM
Jun 2014

put anyone under the table for several hours. Worse that happens is you sleep it off, turn on some favorite music.

That 'reporter' is just a dumbs**t.

nolabels

(13,133 posts)
55. I don't think you understand, but of course it might be a little too hazy for you also
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 12:22 AM
Jun 2014
Being rendered to a state of paranoia is a lot different from being smoked under the table. I won't reply after this post, but lets just say, if you are getting stoned, then just keep on getting stoned, then one day when and if you do wake up, you might wonder where your life went. But more likely than not (it would be like most other stoners i have known in my life), it is that mostly you won't remember that much about it.

My brother was a stoner for a good part of his life and i can see that has gave him a moderate amount of cognitive dysfunction and that mostly he will never recover from. Maybe some other stoners might have better luck with the long term effects of chronic abuse of pot, but i wouldn't hold my breath waiting for it
 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
26. What fascinates me about this whole episode---is...
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 10:45 AM
Jun 2014

She didn't even ask for advice. She didn't ask advice from the store--- people on the streets...anybody.

She just fucking did it. It's like never drinking alcohol your whole life and then deciding to drink a whole bottle of Jack Daniels in 10 minutes.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
23. hahaha!! first timers are funnyy- now your employer will fire you when you take the pp test
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 10:41 AM
Jun 2014

Or wait and let you go whenever they wish.

TexasTowelie

(111,313 posts)
41. Well, I'm looking for a job.
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 12:23 PM
Jun 2014

Plus I have three decades of experience so I could write 2-3 columns per week.

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
27. DAMN, trumad! You scared the shit out of me with that headline. I damn near plowed my
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 10:52 AM
Jun 2014

face into the carpet tripping over the loveseat to get to my wallet (so I could do my part to HELP!) before I realized what this OP was about.

Sheldon Cooper

(3,724 posts)
30. Does anyone else think her so-called experience is just bullshit?
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 11:24 AM
Jun 2014

I cannot stand the woman, but she's not a complete imbecile. I simply don't believe that she asked NO ONE for advice, safe dosage, etc. I think she may have taken a bit of it, or maybe none at all, and just wrote a bullshit story about what she believes an overdose would be like. It wouldn't surprise me if it wasn't just an excuse to demonize legal MJ.

Uncle Joe

(58,112 posts)
37. Yes, I have thought it might be a strong possibility that she never ingested it
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 11:40 AM
Jun 2014

Last edited Fri Jun 6, 2014, 12:18 PM - Edit history (1)

and just made the whole story up.

I've never thought highly of Dowd's integrity.

0rganism

(23,856 posts)
43. Hunter S. Thompson wouldn't have wiped his ass with that drivel
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 12:33 PM
Jun 2014

What a piss-poor insult to that great man's work. Modo can't spell "Denver" or "MUCH" or "room service" or "DRUGS" but she still got "caesar salad and truffle risotto" right? Yeah, whatever. What a stack of complete and utter bullshit.

John Elway fantasies? Because Denver? Really? Fuck off modo.

RobinA

(9,878 posts)
45. Dislike for Dowd
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 12:51 PM
Jun 2014

aside, it doesn't help the cause much to sell 16 doses in what is commonly considered a one dose form with no labelling to that effect. A candy bar is culturally a one dose item. It's like selling a can of beer with 16x concentrated beer in it and then expecting the person to ask, Gee, is it OK to drink the whole can just like every other can of beer in the history of the world, or should I drink a fraction of it in case this particular beer happens to be super concentrated?

I mean, yeah, I think under an abundance of caution I would have asked how much pot candy bar I should eat. But still. Back in the day you had to eat WAY more cannabis than you had to smoke to get the same effect. Some of us haven't been in the same room with pot in decades, have never been in the same state with legal pot, and aren't quite hip to the ins and outs of pot gummy bears.

Sixteen dose candy bars just make the whole enterprise look bad.

Tsiyu

(18,186 posts)
47. I believe the bar was labeled
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 01:05 PM
Jun 2014

and she did interview people at the dispensary who explained that people each have different reactions. She chose to ignore everything she was told and down the whole thing.

And then blame everyone else because that didn't work out.

She is like the teenager who tries liquor for the first time and drinks 15 cups of hunch punch. Stupid. Impulsive. Immature.

But most teenagers don't write columns blaming the alcohol distilleries for their bad choices.

Also, she might have gotten alcohol poisoning from ingesting 16 times her limit for alcohol. She might have died from an overdose if she'd ingested 16 times the dosage for Oxycontin.

As it is, she had a rough time but lived to tell the tale of her lack of restraint.


Get the facts before blaming the dispensary.

I would not want to sound as stupid as Dowd does, personally. The only people who are buying her story are people with an agenda.





noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
51. I agree...she was totally irresponsible
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 03:29 PM
Jun 2014

And now she is whining about HER mistake. Her mistake is a common one. People expect an immediate effect, then take more when they do not feel anything. Then, because they took to much and did not wait, they get too high. I have zero sympathy for Dowd. As a "journalist," she should have done some research.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
48. I can guarantee that a tender warned her in advance..
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 02:06 PM
Jun 2014

Edibles don't have much of an effect on me, so I decided to try a brownie with a gram of bubble hash baked in. The tender admonished me several times to eat just a quarter of the brownie. I'm thinking yeah yeah just ring it up, dood. They don't just sell you this stuff and send you on your merry way. In any case, I ingested half the brownie, and after about 30 minutes felt a warm, calming sensation wash over my body from the top down. No freakout, just sat home and watched the teevee.

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
52. my tenders are very helpful re: doses
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 03:32 PM
Jun 2014

And most products in CA have dose information on the label. If she was a totally clueless newbie, I cannot believe no one told her about dosage.

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