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RIP (6/6/1968) (Original Post) tk2kewl Jun 2014 OP
He would have been a great President. n/t Laelth Jun 2014 #1
If he had been elected. OnlinePoker Jun 2014 #39
. hedgehog Jun 2014 #2
. warrior1 Jun 2014 #3
I remember this like it was last night madokie Jun 2014 #4
. DreamGypsy Jun 2014 #5
Damn panader0 Jun 2014 #6
I nearly weep MsLeopard Jun 2014 #7
So do I. How different our world would be if not for this horrid event. southerncrone Jun 2014 #72
Recommended. H2O Man Jun 2014 #8
Personally hope died for me. I have continued working because he would have wanted us to continue jwirr Jun 2014 #14
... Mnemosyne Jun 2014 #9
America lost an opportunity that would have advanced us years ahead of where we are today. Lint Head Jun 2014 #10
I remember well when I heard the news... jimlup Jun 2014 #11
"a good and decent man who saw wrong and tried to right it mountain grammy Jun 2014 #12
Video here undeterred Jun 2014 #50
Hard to watch even decades later. mountain grammy Jun 2014 #67
Yes it is lovemydog Jun 2014 #88
RIP Bobby .... tweeternik Jun 2014 #13
... progressoid Jun 2014 #15
I remember. A kid on a farm on the prairies Whisp Jun 2014 #16
Happy birthady tk2kewl Jun 2014 #17
Thankyou, tk2kewl Whisp Jun 2014 #20
Oh my God Bobby was just plain beautiful 90-percent Jun 2014 #18
even my mother, a lifelong Republican, was going to vote for him. magical thyme Jun 2014 #19
God bless. (nt) Paladin Jun 2014 #21
He was a much beloved man. Oh what could have been. LoisB Jun 2014 #22
One of the eerie events of my childhood. I dreamed he'd died and when I turned on the TV... nolabear Jun 2014 #23
. Auggie Jun 2014 #24
I remember it vividly... virgdem Jun 2014 #25
Plus one more RufusTFirefly Jun 2014 #31
Sadly, you are right PatrickforO Jun 2014 #73
My idealism didn't die than day liberaltrucker Jun 2014 #85
.. arthritisR_US Jun 2014 #26
Such a sad day in American History. rbrnmw Jun 2014 #27
??Even in our sleep, pain which cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart..." RufusTFirefly Jun 2014 #28
Thank you. I always share with young people who want to hear lovemydog Jun 2014 #90
Watching his funeral on TV is one of my earliest memories. deutsey Jun 2014 #29
1968 was a watershed year for my political perceptions.... pink-o Jun 2014 #30
me too - that's when I realized the game was rigged here in the US villager Jun 2014 #36
"What we need in the United States... Lifelong Protester Jun 2014 #32
Elizabeth would do... Clyde Tenson Jun 2014 #40
She is rapidly becoming Lifelong Protester Jun 2014 #53
Fifth grade CountAllVotes Jun 2014 #33
I was in Long Beach at the time, not far from downtown L.A. Le Taz Hot Jun 2014 #34
I could not vote yet at the time Leme Jun 2014 #35
Bobby was my guy. RIP. WinkyDink Jun 2014 #37
I still remember staring at the tv in shock, thinking there had been some terrible mistake (the niyad Jun 2014 #38
Loved his sense of humor... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2014 #41
I recall another one of his jokes. thucythucy Jun 2014 #76
I watched as his plane flew over our house on its way to Washington young_at_heart Jun 2014 #42
RIP Senator Kennedy RoccoR5955 Jun 2014 #43
R.I.P. Bobby StarryNite Jun 2014 #44
He was our last great HOPE... MrMickeysMom Jun 2014 #45
Thanks for this remembrance MissDeeds Jun 2014 #46
RIP Bobby Trailrider1951 Jun 2014 #47
That night we sat on a hill near the school dormitory. Warren Stupidity Jun 2014 #48
K & R RIP L0oniX Jun 2014 #49
He was too good abakan Jun 2014 #51
Rest in peace, Bobby. Beacool Jun 2014 #52
Thank you for reminding us of this significant day. nt No Vested Interest Jun 2014 #54
. myrna minx Jun 2014 #55
1968 was one heartbreakingly fucked up year Little_Wing Jun 2014 #56
I great man. nm rhett o rick Jun 2014 #57
Such an epic loss. colorado_ufo Jun 2014 #58
It was two days before our wedding. colorado_ufo Jun 2014 #59
I was there. I lived it. Boomerproud Jun 2014 #60
He had recently spoken in St. James Park in San Jose. KamaAina Jun 2014 #61
I'm remembering rickyhall Jun 2014 #62
He was unequivocal The Wizard Jun 2014 #63
. BuelahWitch Jun 2014 #64
K & R SunSeeker Jun 2014 #65
if I could point to the most pivotal WHAT IF, it would be Bobby Skittles Jun 2014 #66
One of my favorite "What If?" topics.....right up there with the survival of Lincoln. nt AverageJoe90 Jun 2014 #80
AWWW you know it AverageJoe90 Skittles Jun 2014 #87
These two pics are from the day he visited my home town Marion Iowa. Puglover Jun 2014 #68
I worked with an RN who was there that night mnhtnbb Jun 2014 #69
The most important year of my life... japple Jun 2014 #70
I learned about it from a waitress around lunch-time in a truck-stop struggle4progress Jun 2014 #71
Why Have I Not Heard ANYTHING About This RoccoR5955 Jun 2014 #74
Corporate McPravda won't even broadcast what Jackie, RFK thought about JFK's assassination. Octafish Jun 2014 #81
I was born in 68... awoke_in_2003 Jun 2014 #75
Here was a good fellow. R.I.P. Bobby Kennedy. ='( AverageJoe90 Jun 2014 #77
I can see myself in my home in California when I heard the news. :( thanks tk2kewl Cha Jun 2014 #78
. d_b Jun 2014 #79
Still makes me cry dflprincess Jun 2014 #82
My eyes burn, tears run down my face and my heart is torn apart after all these years: freshwest Jun 2014 #83
a very sad time. hopemountain Jun 2014 #84
Have been thinking about him all day..... lastlib Jun 2014 #86
A tremendous loss Iwillnevergiveup Jun 2014 #89
One of my great heroes... americannightmare Jun 2014 #91
I think you've put your finger on one of the aspects that made him so special - hedgehog Jun 2014 #92
The country was at a crossroads. RoccoR5955 Jun 2014 #93
While You're Gushing Over Bobbers Wolf Frankula Jun 2014 #94
Are you freakin' kiddin' me! americannightmare Jul 2014 #96
That's Not Jedgarhoovy Wolf Frankula Jul 2014 #97
That was all before his brother's murder and Vietnam... americannightmare Jul 2014 #98
If only....... LongTomH Jun 2014 #95

OnlinePoker

(5,702 posts)
39. If he had been elected.
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 12:20 PM
Jun 2014

He would have had momentum after California, but in the last Gallup poll before his assassination, he was still 3rd on the Democratic side. At the time, it was McCarthy 32%, Humphrey 29%, Kennedy 25%.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/9967/Timeline-Polling-History-Events-Shaped-United-States-World.aspx

madokie

(51,076 posts)
4. I remember this like it was last night
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 09:55 AM
Jun 2014

I was stationed at the SERE school in Warner Springs California when this happened. I was to relieve another person for duty and when he came to wake me up he said you won't believe what just happened and in my half sleepy ass way I said what they shot Kennedy. No way could I have known this other that intuition cause there wasn't any radios or televisions or people talking about this in my space. It was one of the eeriest feeling I've ever had. It was right up there with the one I had when I was in the first grade when all of a sudden I had this weird feeling that I'd lived before and would live again.

southerncrone

(5,506 posts)
72. So do I. How different our world would be if not for this horrid event.
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 07:43 PM
Jun 2014

A loss beyond comprehension for those of us who have vision for peace.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
14. Personally hope died for me. I have continued working because he would have wanted us to continue
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 10:44 AM
Jun 2014

his dream. I think it is significant that it is that dream that the rethugs are still trying to kill.

Lint Head

(15,064 posts)
10. America lost an opportunity that would have advanced us years ahead of where we are today.
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 10:19 AM
Jun 2014

I think poverty in this country would be virtually nonexistent. Poverty cannot be totally eliminated but it would be nothing like it is today. I think income inequality would be much less.

I miss his comforting words and his vision for us.

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
11. I remember well when I heard the news...
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 10:21 AM
Jun 2014

I was in 5th grade and I walked to school every morning with the older boy next door. He said "did you hear that Senator Kennedy was shot?" And I was like "WHAT ?????"

mountain grammy

(26,571 posts)
12. "a good and decent man who saw wrong and tried to right it
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 10:29 AM
Jun 2014

saw suffering and tried to heal it, saw war and tried to stop it." from Ted Kennedy's eulogy for his brother.

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
88. Yes it is
Sat Jun 7, 2014, 12:34 AM
Jun 2014

They have killed so many great ones. John, Martin, Bobby, Medger, Malcolm. As someone said above, you keep going on even after hope feels gone. As an honor to them, yourself and others. Lord knows it's not always easy.

90-percent

(6,828 posts)
18. Oh my God Bobby was just plain beautiful
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 10:53 AM
Jun 2014

Can you imagine McConnell or Boeher ever saying such deep moving loving hopeful things in their entire lives? They could sooner flap their arms to the moon than come close to the goodness in bobby's heart.

-90% jimmy

nolabear

(41,915 posts)
23. One of the eerie events of my childhood. I dreamed he'd died and when I turned on the TV...
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 11:12 AM
Jun 2014

I lived in Mississippi, and it was the worst year of my life. My mother had died in March, Dr. King had been killed and I sometimes thought I was the only person in the state who thought that a tragedy. My mother, who in almost all ways was a Southern good girl, had had an enormous crush on John and we had mourned his death together. Now here I was, mourning Bobby's alone. I don't know why I was different but I was more or less raised by TV and the radio, and they gave me a place to go when it was just all too much. Having that dream in some ways changed my life, or at least confirmed much of what I felt. (It literally was a news anchor announcing "Senator Robert Francis Kennedy...is dead. I was so startled I woke up. Next day it turned out to have been true. I'm not claiming anything; maybe I'd heard something w/o being aware of it, but it affected me deeply.)

virgdem

(2,119 posts)
25. I remember it vividly...
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 11:21 AM
Jun 2014

I was 16 and a huge Kennedy supporter. I was watching the election coverage and his speech before going to bed. I woke up very early that morning with a feeling of dread that something really bad had happened. I turned on the radio and heard the news that Bobby had been shot. I sat there in total disbelief. 1968 was a truly awful year-MLK was assassinated in April, the unrest over Vietnam, Kennedy's assassination and the sheer chaos of the Democratic convention that August. It was a year that is seared into my memory forever. My idealism died the day that Bobby was assassinated!

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
31. Plus one more
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 11:42 AM
Jun 2014

The crushing of Prague Spring in Czechoslovakia by the invasion of Soviet tanks in August.

The great enemy of freedom is authoritarianism and the concentration of power. Unfortunately, it takes many forms. People who threaten entrenched power, whether they are in Prague or Memphis or Dallas or the Ambassador Hotel in Los Angeles are usually dealt with by those who wield that power and are unwilling to share it with the rest of us.

liberaltrucker

(9,129 posts)
85. My idealism didn't die than day
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 11:36 PM
Jun 2014

But my hope certainty did. Bobby's death ultimately gave us
Nixon and the downward spiral of of any hope of a benevolent
America.

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
28. “Even in our sleep, pain which cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart..."
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 11:29 AM
Jun 2014

“Even in our sleep, pain which cannot forget
falls drop by drop upon the heart
until, in our own despair, against our will,
comes wisdom through the awful grace of God.”
-- Aeschylus



(sorry about the Italian subtitles, but most of the recordings I can find of this extraordinary speech include an overly intrusive soundtrack)



"There are those who look at things the way they are, and ask why...
I dream of things that never were, and ask why not?"

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
90. Thank you. I always share with young people who want to hear
Sat Jun 7, 2014, 12:45 AM
Jun 2014

of this great man, and the awful violence that felled him and Martin Luther King, Jr. I still fear for the safety of President Obama, too.

pink-o

(4,056 posts)
30. 1968 was a watershed year for my political perceptions....
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 11:42 AM
Jun 2014

I was 13, and had just learned all about the Vietnam War in school, MLK had been killed 2 months before, Ray-gun was effing up my home state, the Summer of Love was still resounding thru our sensibilities, Berkeley, Black Panthers, et al. On the threshold of my own changes from a happy child to a rebellious teen, I was devastated and felt so helpless when I heard about Bobby.

Think of an America without: Wars for profit, Citizens United, Income Inequality, miserable poverty, shit wages, needless deaths from AIDS, religious whack-jobs with way too much power....and that would have been an America where Bobby Kennedy was president.

Alas, Bobby: we hardly knew ya.

Lifelong Protester

(8,421 posts)
53. She is rapidly becoming
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 01:55 PM
Jun 2014

my hero, too! I am reading her book, and I like hearing that someone is fighting for the poor or near-poor.

CountAllVotes

(20,854 posts)
33. Fifth grade
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 11:46 AM
Jun 2014

Last edited Fri Jun 6, 2014, 04:05 PM - Edit history (1)

It was the assignment for the evening that day to watch the goings on in Southern Calif. for the night and the hoped for election of Robert F. Kennedy (by the teacher that is).

I remember that night, I did my duty and stayed up to watch what was going on that evening after RFK won Calif.

And then came that shot and the screams that RFK had been shot.

My parents were in bed and I went and knocked on their bedroom door and they awoke and asked me why was I bothering them so very late. I told them that RFK had been shot.

They both got up at once and ran into the living room to watch the TV and see what was going on and they both broke down and cried when they heard he was dead.

Some things you never forget in life and watching that evil Sirhan Sirhan get cuffed and taken away was not nearly justice enough.

I had not realized at the age of 11 years what a huge loss RFK was. It was beyond a huge loss, RFK would have changed America I believe in hindsight.

RIP Robert Francis Kennedy. We barely knew ye.

& recommend.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
34. I was in Long Beach at the time, not far from downtown L.A.
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 11:50 AM
Jun 2014

and watched it live on TV. I'll never forget the utter disbelief that it could happen AGAIN! JFK, MLK and RFK murdered, all either about to go against or were against the war in Viet Nam. All assassinated within 5 years. Nothing suspicious there.

 

Leme

(1,092 posts)
35. I could not vote yet at the time
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 11:51 AM
Jun 2014

I was not happy that he joined the race for nomination as late as he did. I thought he saw the success of Eugene McCarthy and decided he could capitalize on the sentiment that Eugene was generating.
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In the years since, my estimation of him rose and fell just a little in my understanding of him and that era.
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His speech in Indianapolis, the night of Martin Luther King's murder was quite impressive (which I just saw a year or two ago). I suggest that for all to view. See post # 28
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For some context see 1:33 for portion on Indianapolis:


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Perhaps I am a bit too harsh in my thinking .

niyad

(112,435 posts)
38. I still remember staring at the tv in shock, thinking there had been some terrible mistake (the
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 12:08 PM
Jun 2014

same way I felt hearing about his brother). how very different our world would look today had he not been killed. I always thought how strange it was--the decision to take that particular path was made at the last minute--and there was the assassin.. .

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
41. Loved his sense of humor...
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 12:23 PM
Jun 2014

"People say I am ruthless. I am not ruthless. And if I find the man who is calling me ruthless, I shall destroy him."

- Robert Kennedy

thucythucy

(7,986 posts)
76. I recall another one of his jokes.
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 10:06 PM
Jun 2014

This was during the JFK administration, when he was AG. JFK was overseas, Johnson was out of town, Rusk was off somewhere. RFK sent this telegram to his brother.

"You are in Europe. Vice President is in Texas. Secretary of State is in Japan. Have seized control. Bobby."

Can't recall if those were the exact words, but it was something along those lines. Cracked me up when I read about it.

young_at_heart

(3,758 posts)
42. I watched as his plane flew over our house on its way to Washington
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 12:23 PM
Jun 2014

I had been watching on TV and realized that the sound of an airplane overhead had to be that one. I still remember the terrible feeling that washed over me.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
43. RIP Senator Kennedy
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 12:27 PM
Jun 2014

We all miss you. Your constituents in NY, your constituents in the US, your fellow humans on planet Earth.

This was a great loss to our country, and our planet.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
45. He was our last great HOPE...
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 12:44 PM
Jun 2014

I believe this was our last chance. After Smedley Butler warned that war was a racket, we looked to a new kind of candidate. Non dared call Kennedy's assasination treason in a mainstream fashion, but we know better.

Bobby was really going to be it ... Now we have to help ourselves.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
48. That night we sat on a hill near the school dormitory.
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 01:18 PM
Jun 2014

We talked about how completely fucked up the country had become. Shortly after that the great uprising of '68 commenced, what followed was the five most interesting years of my life. Then, by the end of the 70's, the neocon/neolib counter revolution got underway and here we are, nothing at all like it could have been, almost the exact opposite of where we could have gone. It remains a crying shame.

abakan

(1,815 posts)
51. He was too good
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 01:43 PM
Jun 2014

To ever be allowed to fulfill his promise. The good do truly die young and then we are left with asswipes like Jon McIwasforituntilobamadidit.

Little_Wing

(417 posts)
56. 1968 was one heartbreakingly fucked up year
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 02:51 PM
Jun 2014

I honestly believe our country has suffered from collective PTSD ever since, grievous wounds we've never recovered from. The only good thing I can say about 1968 is that I moved to California (from Michigan) the week after Bobby died. If I had the power to go back in time and change the events of one year in my lifetime, 1968 would be the one. Rev. King, Tet (Vietnam), riots and revolution everywhere (Paris, Czechoslovakia, etc.), summer Olympics in Mexico (Smith and Carlos protest), the Chicago police riots, Nixon winning. It was like standing in the middle of a cultural world-wide hurricane. So much possibility, so much destruction. Tears are not enough.

colorado_ufo

(5,717 posts)
58. Such an epic loss.
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 03:26 PM
Jun 2014

Such a profound loss. As a president, he may have exceeded his brother. What an intellect, what a heart, what a principled human being.

Compare the giants of that decade, the thought processes, the ideals, with what we have today that serves an excuse for politics and politicians.

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"Now, watch this drive!" George W. Bush

colorado_ufo

(5,717 posts)
59. It was two days before our wedding.
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 03:30 PM
Jun 2014

The wedding went ahead, but in all our honeymoon photos, the flags were at half-mast.

Boomerproud

(7,889 posts)
60. I was there. I lived it.
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 04:31 PM
Jun 2014

The revisionists can write and talk all they want but it doesn't change the reality. I feel so bad for my niece and nephews who only think of Bobby as a opaque figure from a distant past. At least my generation heard his voice and saw his visage.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
61. He had recently spoken in St. James Park in San Jose.
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 04:59 PM
Jun 2014

As had William McKinley before he was assassinated.

rickyhall

(4,889 posts)
62. I'm remembering
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 05:22 PM
Jun 2014

The From the Earth to the Moon episode "1968" pretty much said it for me about that year with MLK, RFK, Tet, Nixon, etc. Seems the only good part was Apollo 8 orbiting the moon right before Christmas.

The Wizard

(12,482 posts)
63. He was unequivocal
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 05:47 PM
Jun 2014

in his determination to end the Vietnam War without any wind down dance. He said if elected the war would be over. The Military industrial Complex was unhappy that he would cut off their gravy train.

Puglover

(16,380 posts)
68. These two pics are from the day he visited my home town Marion Iowa.
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 06:40 PM
Jun 2014

I got to shake his hand.





He was the real deal.

What a hideous loss.

mnhtnbb

(31,319 posts)
69. I worked with an RN who was there that night
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 06:48 PM
Jun 2014

when he was brought in to Good Sam--as it was referred to in LA--she never got over it.
It was about 5 years later that I knew her.

And Rosey Grier--who tackled Sirhan Sirhan--called one of my roommates one time in '70 or '71, I think it was? She
was an Olympic gold medalist athlete. I couldn't believe it when he told me who he was when asking for her.

japple

(9,773 posts)
70. The most important year of my life...
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 07:03 PM
Jun 2014

My senior year of high school, Sept. 1967-June 1968. I went to HS in Macon, Georgia, home of Otis Redding (and other fine musicians.)

The last performance of Otis Redding, December 9, 1967 (he died on December 10, 1967) and IMHO the best soul song ever.



Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr.
April 4, 1968
http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/1964/king-bio.html

Sen. Robert F. Kennedy
June 6, 1968
http://rfkcenter.org/rfk-3?lang=en


A bit of tenderness and a homage to Otis Redding
http://www.whitehouse.gov/photos-and-video/video/2013/07/25/cyndi-lauper-and-charlie-musslewhite-perform-try-little-tenderness

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
81. Corporate McPravda won't even broadcast what Jackie, RFK thought about JFK's assassination.
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 11:07 PM
Jun 2014
JFK Assassination: Jacqueline Kennedy, RFK Did Not Believe Only One Person Assassinated President John F. Kennedy

By Joseph Lazzaro
International Business Times, December 20 2013 1:44 PM

One week after the assassination of President John F. Kennedy in Dallas, Texas, former first lady Jacqueline Kennedy and Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy privately communicated to the leadership of the Soviet Union that they did not believe accused assassin Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone.

Jacqueline Kennedy and RFK wanted the Soviet leadership to know that “despite Oswald’s connections to the communist world, the Kennedys believed that the president was felled by domestic opponents.”

Publicly, Jacqueline Kennedy endorsed the Warren Commission’s conclusion that Oswald acted alone, and it was not until 1999 that her and RFK’s private views were made known, when they were revealed by historians Aleksandr Fusenko and Timothy Naftali in their book on the Cuban Missile Crisis, “One Hell of a Gamble: Khrushchev, Castro, and Kennedy, 1958-1964.”

In the book, the historians reported that when Jacqueline Kennedy’s artist friend William Walton traveled to Moscow on a previously scheduled trip a week after President Kennedy’s assassination, Walton carried the above “felled by domestic opponents” message from Jacqueline Kennedy and RFK to another friend of the Kennedy administration, Georgi Bolshakov, a Russian diplomat. Bolshakov served as a back-channel link between the White House and the Kremlin during the October 1962 missile crisis.

Jacqueline Kennedy’s Analysis: Little Media Coverage

At the time of the book’s publication in 1999, Jacqueline Kennedy and RFK’s private views received very little attention from U.S. media outlets.

Further, in 2013, despite the enormous amount of media coverage of the recent 50th anniversary of JFK’s assassination, when hundreds of media outlets sent reporters and TV crews to Dallas, there was relatively little coverage of what Jacqueline Kennedy, RFK or other public officials in office in 1963 thought occurred on Nov. 22, 1963, in Dealey Plaza in Dallas, even though many public officials have made their opinions and analyses known publicly since then. Here are a few of note:

“I think the [Warren Commission] report, to those who have studied it closely, has collapsed like a house of cards ... the fatal mistake the Warren Commission made was not to use its own investigators, but instead to rely on the CIA and FBI personnel, which played directly into the hands of senior intelligence officials who directed the cover-up."

-- U.S. Sen. Richard Schweiker, R-Penn., and former member of the Church Committee, which investigated U.S. intelligence community activities, including illegal operations (1976)


CONTINUED...

http://www.ibtimes.com/jfk-assassination-jacqueline-kennedy-rfk-did-not-believe-only-one-person-assassinated-president-john

hopemountain

(3,919 posts)
84. a very sad time.
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 11:31 PM
Jun 2014

i was listening to my little transistor radio with it pressed to my ear listening to the primary results live report from the hotel when the shots were heard and chaos ensued. i did not sleep the rest of the night. we (democrats & the country) had already lost so much. i was 16 and indeed, it was a terrible time in the world and in my personal life. hmmmm. i wonder what was up with the planets at the time.

lastlib

(22,981 posts)
86. Have been thinking about him all day.....
Sat Jun 7, 2014, 12:09 AM
Jun 2014

...what could have been............He has always been my political idol. The gulf is so great between what could have been with him as President, and what has been, with Nixon, Reagan, et al. Such a loss to the whole world.

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RIP, Bobby. The path you offered us was better.

Iwillnevergiveup

(9,298 posts)
89. A tremendous loss
Sat Jun 7, 2014, 12:36 AM
Jun 2014

that I'm not sure we've ever recovered from. I remember vividly his time spent with Cesar Chavez - it was partly this that brought awareness to migrant workers' plight and the great grape boycott. For those of us who were alive at that time and paying attention, we must pass along our stories and memories of an exemplary man.

americannightmare

(322 posts)
91. One of my great heroes...
Sat Jun 7, 2014, 02:57 AM
Jun 2014

I recommend reading, if you haven't yet, "The Last Campaign," and watch his speeches from those final 3 months of his life - he was humbled by what he had seen in our country and it affected him in profound ways, which seem to appear almost as plaintive cries in the dark. Did he give his life in vain? So far, it appears so...

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
92. I think you've put your finger on one of the aspects that made him so special -
Sat Jun 7, 2014, 05:11 AM
Jun 2014

he saw things when he traveled the country that changed him. Too many politicians today haven't learned anything new or changed an opinion since they were 19 1/2!

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
93. The country was at a crossroads.
Sat Jun 7, 2014, 09:20 AM
Jun 2014

A path between peace and prosperity, and war and privilege for the rich.
With Kennedy's assassination, the country took the wrong path.

I am convinced that had Kennedy been elected, many awful things that have happened since the days of Nixon, Reagan and the two Bushes, might not have happened.

And so it goes.

Wolf Frankula

(3,595 posts)
94. While You're Gushing Over Bobbers
Sat Jun 7, 2014, 06:27 PM
Jun 2014

Please explain his admiration for this man.


The one in the middle.

Wolf

americannightmare

(322 posts)
98. That was all before his brother's murder and Vietnam...
Sun Jul 6, 2014, 04:13 PM
Jul 2014

read "The Last Campaign" and then tell me if it matters whether he was an "admirer" of McCarthy.

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