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Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 06:54 PM Jun 2014

I say we give Dianne Feinstein to the Taliban for 5 years and see if she feels threatened.

No Evidence of ‘Credible Threat’ to Bergdahl: Feinstein
By Kathleen Hunter

The Senate Intelligence Committee chairwoman said she hasn’t been convinced that there was a “credible threat” against the life of freed Army Sergeant Bowe Bergdahl that motivated the White House to keep its plans secret from Congress.

“I don’t think there was a credible threat,” Senator Dianne Feinstein said
today in an interview for Bloomberg Television’s “Political Capital with Al Hunt” airing this weekend. “I have no information that there was.”

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-06-06/no-evidence-of-credible-threat-to-bergdahl-feinstein.html


Did she not see the videos where the Taliban is brandishing guns right in front of Bergdahl?

Taliban threatened to kill Bergdahl if details of prisoner swap leaked

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025053834

An American POW is captured by the Taliban and there's no evidence of a credible threat?

Are you fucking kidding me?



We should have swapped Bergdahl for Feinstein.
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I say we give Dianne Feinstein to the Taliban for 5 years and see if she feels threatened. (Original Post) Cali_Democrat Jun 2014 OP
Feinstein and her husband onecaliberal Jun 2014 #1
Me neither BrotherIvan Jun 2014 #7
She won't feel threatened. She packs. Eleanors38 Jun 2014 #21
She has ridden that clip of the assassination of Harvey Milk for too long. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2014 #30
Hubby's also a major player in the selling off of post offices RufusTFirefly Jun 2014 #38
According to the Wall Street Journal, the nature of the threat was that TwilightGardener Jun 2014 #2
I can go for that. bravenak Jun 2014 #3
If the Taliban themselves aren't a credible threat what is the big deal about releasing 5 of them? Johonny Jun 2014 #4
Well said. nt Cali_Democrat Jun 2014 #6
Good comments. Likely, the NSA et al will trace them back. Eleanors38 Jun 2014 #23
Good point. kath Jun 2014 #52
The American political elite is really afraid that Bergdahl's conditions of captivity will JDPriestly Jun 2014 #54
I'm going to add this: Dianne Feinstein didn't care what happened to TwilightGardener Jun 2014 #5
Good question. So often the initial information released is sterilized for one GoneFishin Jun 2014 #14
Good points. nm rhett o rick Jun 2014 #32
Hasting was imbedded onecaliberal Jun 2014 #56
Kick&Recommended! butterfly77 Jun 2014 #8
Hey hey don't criticize Democrats ChangeUp106 Jun 2014 #9
There is much more to this story than Bergdahl being released. Obama should Thinkingabout Jun 2014 #10
So you are in favor of a cover-up? former9thward Jun 2014 #12
WTH, did I say anything about a coverup? Thinkingabout Jun 2014 #15
"Obama should sit on the information they know" former9thward Jun 2014 #20
Right now GOP heads and others are rolling, let them roll for a while. Thinkingabout Jun 2014 #25
An "American POW" was not captured by the Taliban. former9thward Jun 2014 #11
You can be off post unauthorized and get taken against your will. TwilightGardener Jun 2014 #13
As I said unless there is a cover-up we will find out the circumstances. former9thward Jun 2014 #17
Relaxed? Or drugged/high/mentally ill? TwilightGardener Jun 2014 #24
Wow.....pathetic. jeff47 Jun 2014 #26
I am glad you enjoyed it. former9thward Jun 2014 #36
No, I'll still call this pathetic. jeff47 Jun 2014 #60
Good grief. He "seemed to be very relaxed", and based on that you'd judge him? nm rhett o rick Jun 2014 #35
Others have made their judgements. former9thward Jun 2014 #37
We dont know how he was treated. Give him the benefit of the doubt. nm rhett o rick Jun 2014 #39
Was he free to leave anytime he wanted? Thinkingabout Jun 2014 #16
We don't know yet, now do we? former9thward Jun 2014 #18
speculation, huh Thinkingabout Jun 2014 #19
If we don't know yet, how can you say he wasn't captured? Drunken Irishman Jun 2014 #22
Using a common sense definition. former9thward Jun 2014 #33
You seem to want to believe the worst. Is that easier? nm rhett o rick Jun 2014 #40
Frankly, I really don't give a shit what you consider 'captured'. Drunken Irishman Jun 2014 #42
And I don't give a shit what you consider 'captured'. former9thward Jun 2014 #44
The difference is that what I consider captured is what the military considers captured... Drunken Irishman Jun 2014 #46
And when the full story comes out former9thward Jun 2014 #49
Right. For someone who says we just don't know much about this situation... Drunken Irishman Jun 2014 #50
We know he escaped the Taliban twice and was recaptured both times. lob1 Jun 2014 #31
We don't know that. former9thward Jun 2014 #34
She'd just end up giving the Taliban Spirochete Jun 2014 #27
Yes. You are right. n/t Cleita Jun 2014 #28
Rand Paul made a similar suggestion Oilwellian Jun 2014 #29
Do I get to pick the Democrats? nm rhett o rick Jun 2014 #41
She is nobody qualified to say anything Lucretius Jun 2014 #43
So disgusting to see a Democratic leader supporting the GOP's evil games in any way. Overseas Jun 2014 #45
Dear DiFi: Jack Rabbit Jun 2014 #47
she is disgusting riverwalker Jun 2014 #48
Fuck. Her. kath Jun 2014 #51
What is her fucking problem..does she just want to show how much she sounds stupid like john mccain? Cha Jun 2014 #53
This whole bit about Congresscritters 'diagnosing' Bergdahl's health Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #55
And 30 days to debate whether she's even worth taking back Zambero Jun 2014 #57
I say we start grooming a credible candidate to replace Sen. Feinstein Hekate Jun 2014 #58
Absolutely and her crooked husband can go with her. Last time she ran for reelection I couldn't Raine Jun 2014 #59

onecaliberal

(32,816 posts)
1. Feinstein and her husband
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 07:03 PM
Jun 2014

Are war profiteers. She is my senator, I have called written email her a lot over the years. She is NOT a democrat. I haven't voted for her the last 2 times she has run.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
7. Me neither
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 07:35 PM
Jun 2014

Proving yet again that having a D next to your name does not make on a Democrat. She and her husband are vile, and absolutely war profiteers. Both of California's Senators need to be replaced.

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
38. Hubby's also a major player in the selling off of post offices
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 09:20 PM
Jun 2014

A truly despicable pair. Another Californian here who has long since recognized Feinstein for what she really is.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
2. According to the Wall Street Journal, the nature of the threat was that
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 07:06 PM
Jun 2014

the actual captors possibly weren't informed of the swap ahead of time and might be angered/react badly.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
3. I can go for that.
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 07:21 PM
Jun 2014

She has lost her way. Maybe a few years with the not dangerous taliban will help her find her way and imbue her with empathy.

Johonny

(20,829 posts)
4. If the Taliban themselves aren't a credible threat what is the big deal about releasing 5 of them?
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 07:28 PM
Jun 2014

Either they're a big deal or they aren't. If they are a big deal then being held captive by them is a credible threat in and of itself; solitary confinement, in darkness, for months, in a cage part of the time... all sounds bad to me. But if they're not a threat then these 5 people aren't that big a deal since the ones actively out there holding prisoners aren't even a threat. I'm having a hard time with the whole logically consistence of their shallow argument.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
54. The American political elite is really afraid that Bergdahl's conditions of captivity will
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 11:42 PM
Jun 2014

be viewed by Americans as torture. If Bergdahl's conditions in captivity are considered to be torture, then what about the conditions in which we have held some prisoners?

I'm just guessing but it could be very unpleasant for Republicans if the American people hear about Bergdahl's treatment and react with empathy and then learn that we have done similar things to our prisoners.

Remember. That is just my guess as to one of the reasons for the reaction from the Republicans.

They don't want Americans to revisit the discussion about torture.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
5. I'm going to add this: Dianne Feinstein didn't care what happened to
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 07:29 PM
Jun 2014

Bergdahl. Neither did most people in Congress. Neither did many people in Obama's administration prior to 2013. Neither did Hillary Clinton or Leon Panetta or David Petraeus. Bergdahl was inconvenient, and imperfect. Had he not had a cloud over him, of course, there would have been more urgency, and his parents knew that. So his mistake almost doomed him twice over--first getting him captured, and then denying him worthiness of being rescued. You only have political value if they can call you a hero. So almost everyone was waiting for him to die, hoping for him to die, because the fallout would be Obama's alone. Who would've thought the guy would survive five years with the Taliban? Probably not his platoon mates, the guys who are ganging up to bash him before he even comes home--they're in a hurry trying to get their stories out before he can talk. Why? I'm not buying that they are just SOOOO angry at him for deserting, that's bullshit. I wonder what happened in the immediate days before Bergdahl disappeared?

onecaliberal

(32,816 posts)
56. Hasting was imbedded
Sat Jun 7, 2014, 12:14 AM
Jun 2014

With his unit and wrote about it before he passed. There were horrific things done. Bowe wasn't the only one who came to realize they were NOT helping the Afghans. Two of the people speaking out have also had bad things written about them.

ChangeUp106

(549 posts)
9. Hey hey don't criticize Democrats
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 07:37 PM
Jun 2014

Focus on 2014. Warren ISN'T running in 2016.

You might be one of the paid GOP trolls

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
10. There is much more to this story than Bergdahl being released. Obama should
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 07:59 PM
Jun 2014

Sit on the information they know and let the loud mouths shout until they cannot anymore and then show them what fools they are. Now it has come his father is a Republican some of the GOP crap will quiet some.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
25. Right now GOP heads and others are rolling, let them roll for a while.
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 08:47 PM
Jun 2014

So far McCain and others has been caught up in flip-flops, caught on video saying two different opinions. O'Reilly has shown his stuff and now it has come to light the father is a Republican. Enjoy their turmoil, let them rant, they don't have the right story and are too tied up into trying to make up stories. So far, I have not seem a cover-up.

former9thward

(31,973 posts)
11. An "American POW" was not captured by the Taliban.
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 08:23 PM
Jun 2014

He left the base voluntarily. What he did after that and how he spent the next five years is yet to be known.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
13. You can be off post unauthorized and get taken against your will.
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 08:29 PM
Jun 2014

Being somewhere that you shouldn't be at a given moment doesn't necessarily change your status as an American soldier.

former9thward

(31,973 posts)
17. As I said unless there is a cover-up we will find out the circumstances.
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 08:35 PM
Jun 2014

Several videos were released in the years he was 'captive' and he seemed to be very relaxed in all of them. Our military is very skilled at cover-ups such as the Pat Tillman shooting or the Jessica Lynch fable. Usually the truth comes out eventually.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
24. Relaxed? Or drugged/high/mentally ill?
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 08:44 PM
Jun 2014

I like how you put captive in quotes. That's a nice touch. I don't think he willingly joined the Taliban.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
26. Wow.....pathetic.
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 08:48 PM
Jun 2014

Really, you should just stop. This line of attack is utterly and completely pathetic.

former9thward

(31,973 posts)
36. I am glad you enjoyed it.
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 09:05 PM
Jun 2014

But I won't stop. I will stop when there is a transparent investigation. Will you?

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
60. No, I'll still call this pathetic.
Sat Jun 7, 2014, 09:57 AM
Jun 2014

Even if everything you claim is true, your attack is still pathetic.

You must be auditioning for Breitbart.

former9thward

(31,973 posts)
37. Others have made their judgements.
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 09:06 PM
Jun 2014

And you have not seemed to get bothered by those. The people that is who have said he was held in "horrible conditions'.

former9thward

(31,973 posts)
33. Using a common sense definition.
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 09:01 PM
Jun 2014

Not yours possibly. If you are on an assigned job or in an assigned place then you are captured. If you deliberately go off a base on your own in an hostile environment I don't consider that a typical 'capture'. How can you say he was captured -- if we don't know yet?

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
42. Frankly, I really don't give a shit what you consider 'captured'.
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 09:31 PM
Jun 2014

It's clear the military considered him captured. Let me guess, you also believe that if a kid is told to stay in one place, but wanders off and is taken against their own will, they're not kidnapped, either?

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
46. The difference is that what I consider captured is what the military considers captured...
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 09:41 PM
Jun 2014

And, whether you want to believe it or not, they hold more weight than you. So, next time, don't make a statement as fact when it's merely your bullshit opinion.

former9thward

(31,973 posts)
49. And when the full story comes out
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 09:47 PM
Jun 2014

You will be saying 'Well, we weren't told that!' as you try to run away from your posts.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
50. Right. For someone who says we just don't know much about this situation...
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 09:50 PM
Jun 2014

You're sure acting like you've got all the facts, Maybe you should audition for a gig at FOX News since they clearly know exactly what happened there too.

What a fucking joke.

Spirochete

(5,264 posts)
27. She'd just end up giving the Taliban
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 08:53 PM
Jun 2014

Advanced Asshole Training. So they'd be even worse if they had to spend 5 years with Dianne Frankenstein.

 

Lucretius

(18 posts)
43. She is nobody qualified to say anything
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 09:32 PM
Jun 2014

If it were not for the blood of Moscone and Milk, we would never have heard of her.

Overseas

(12,121 posts)
45. So disgusting to see a Democratic leader supporting the GOP's evil games in any way.
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 09:39 PM
Jun 2014

I wrote her to express my displeasure.

riverwalker

(8,694 posts)
48. she is disgusting
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 09:46 PM
Jun 2014
According to the official, who spoke on condition of not being identified, Bergdahl tried to escape at one point but got caught, and his captors then confined him in small enclosure described as a cage or box.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/06/politics/bowe-bergdahl-release/

Cha

(297,123 posts)
53. What is her fucking problem..does she just want to show how much she sounds stupid like john mccain?
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 10:51 PM
Jun 2014

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
55. This whole bit about Congresscritters 'diagnosing' Bergdahl's health
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 11:43 PM
Jun 2014

via videotape was entirely reminiscent of of Dr Frist's video diagnosis of Terry Schiavo not being a brain-dead vegetable.

As post-mortem tests showed, her brain had serious atrophy, showing that Frist was a total hack, but that 'diagnosis' gave cover for all sorts of Republican legal idiocy. Now they're not even bothering to put MD frontmen out to give such diagnoses, but just any given GOP with a loud mouth is pretending to perform medical diagnoses.

Here's a hint, GOP. Leave it to the professionals, and let them diagnose interactively with the patient, not 'via videotape'.

Zambero

(8,964 posts)
57. And 30 days to debate whether she's even worth taking back
Sat Jun 7, 2014, 01:47 AM
Jun 2014

Not 28, or 29 days, but running the clock for 30 days. Hopefully Ms. Feinstein will have some "credible" fun while in captivity. If and when released, she will be eternally grateful that the process was followed chapter and verse.

Hekate

(90,637 posts)
58. I say we start grooming a credible candidate to replace Sen. Feinstein
Sat Jun 7, 2014, 02:25 AM
Jun 2014

This is a flaming first for me, because she is a Dem and has considerable seniority to use on behalf of California and the nation. The Senate is all about seniority -- but there comes a time...

Raine

(30,540 posts)
59. Absolutely and her crooked husband can go with her. Last time she ran for reelection I couldn't
Sat Jun 7, 2014, 03:04 AM
Jun 2014

make myself vote for her, I left it blank.

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