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malaise

(268,695 posts)
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 09:46 PM Jun 2014

Putin thanks France’s Hollande for his words about Soviet Union’s part in WWII

http://en.itar-tass.com/russia/735176
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DEAUVILLE (France), June 06 /ITAR-TASS/. Russian President Vladimir Putin plans to phone his French counterpart Francois Hollande and thank him for the words about the Soviet Union’s landmark contribution to the victory over Nazism.

“I was very pleased to note it and I will later call and thank the French president that in his speech he mentioned the landmark contribution of the Soviet Union to the victory over Nazism,” Putin said at his meeting with Russian World War II veterans on Friday.

Putin said that “it is very important that in Europe people speak about it".

The Russian president thanked his French counterpart "for a clear signal that the world does not forget that the Soviet Union made a landmark contribution during the World War II.” Putin said words of gratitude to veterans as well and expressed the hope to see them at similar celebrations in the years to come.

On Friday France’s Normandy commemorates the 70th anniversary of the D-Day landing of allied troops on its beaches to pave the way to victory over Nazi Germany. Putin called the ceremony “talented, spectacular and grandiose.”
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Putin thanks France’s Hollande for his words about Soviet Union’s part in WWII (Original Post) malaise Jun 2014 OP
Not to minimize the death and sacrifice of the allies sammythecat Jun 2014 #1
Not much to add Nevernose Jun 2014 #2
To think it took that many deaths to stop that brutal regime. Good for Hollande for not denying sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #3
That's why I though Hollande's comments were malaise Jun 2014 #6
"...by June '44 Germany was already fatally wounded." True. And if D Day had failed or pampango Jun 2014 #7
Putin neglected to mention Russia's deal with Hitler. joshcryer Jun 2014 #4
Yes, about half of all WW2 casualties... HooptieWagon Jun 2014 #5

sammythecat

(3,568 posts)
1. Not to minimize the death and sacrifice of the allies
Sat Jun 7, 2014, 12:42 AM
Jun 2014

but by June '44 Germany was already fatally wounded. What doomed Germany in WWII was invading Russia. It was, from Wiki, "the largest military confrontation in history" and I'll bet you never learned that in school. If you went to school during the Cold War, I know you didn't. It was barely mentioned in text books.

Not counting all casualties, but just battle deaths alone, Germany lost 4-5 million soldiers, Soviet Union, 10-11 million. Civilian deaths 20-27 million. From what I've read about the Easter Front I'm struck by just how grim and horrible it was. Those are the words that come to mind. Grim and horrible.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
2. Not much to add
Sat Jun 7, 2014, 12:45 AM
Jun 2014

But "+1" hardly seems to do justice to 35 million dead.

This is always a weird day for me. Not many people can say with absolute certainty where their grandfather was 70 years ago.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
3. To think it took that many deaths to stop that brutal regime. Good for Hollande for not denying
Sat Jun 7, 2014, 12:52 AM
Jun 2014

history.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
7. "...by June '44 Germany was already fatally wounded." True. And if D Day had failed or
Sat Jun 7, 2014, 06:50 AM
Jun 2014

just never happened, I think the outcome of the war would have been the same - with many more Soviet casualties, of course.

What might have changed is the look of Europe. After defeating and occupying Germany, there would have been no reason for their army not to continue on to the rest of Western Europe. The history of Europe after the war could have been much different.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
5. Yes, about half of all WW2 casualties...
Sat Jun 7, 2014, 01:09 AM
Jun 2014

whether military, or including civilians, were incurred by the Soviet Union. Their contribution to defeating Hitler shouldn't be forgotten.

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