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applegrove

(118,612 posts)
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 11:16 PM Jun 2014

Regular shoppers cite Walmart's low pay and poor treatment of workers as reasons to stay away

Regular shoppers cite Walmart's low pay and poor treatment of workers as reasons to stay away

by Laura Clawson at the Daily Kos

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/06/06/1304931/-Regular-shoppers-cite-Walmart-s-low-pay-and-poor-treatment-of-workers-as-reasons-to-stay-away

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A new poll by Lake Research Partners finds some reasons for that. Walmart's reputation is suffering among consumers, with 28 percent saying they have an unfavorable view of Walmart, compared to just 13 percent unfavorable for Target and just six percent unfavorable for Costco. Walmart's low wages and bad treatment of its workers are registering on shoppers; just 27 percent say that "treats its employees well" is a good description of Walmart, while 42 percent say it is not. The numbers are even more skewed when people are asked if "well paid employees" applies to Walmart. And those views of the company are affecting how much people shop at its stores:

Among Walmart’s most loyal customers, those who shop there weekly, 9% say they have been shopping there less. Among the weekly shoppers, 25% cite poor treatment of workers as a reason why they have been shopping there less.

Among those who shop at Walmart at least monthly, 21% say they have been shopping there less. Among monthly shoppers, 13% cite poor treatment of workers as a reason why they have been shopping there less, and 13% also cite paying workers too little.

With workers organizing and striking and taking to the media to tell their stories, that awareness of the reality of Walmart jobs is only likely to grow.


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Regular shoppers cite Walmart's low pay and poor treatment of workers as reasons to stay away (Original Post) applegrove Jun 2014 OP
Good. People need to hear this sakabatou Jun 2014 #1
What great news. It couldn't happen to a nicer group of d-bags. I can't wait until we get back to okaawhatever Jun 2014 #2
I have never shopped there central scrutinizer Jun 2014 #3
There are plenty of other reasons to stay away from Walmart... Snarkoleptic Jun 2014 #4
This is the ONLY THING that the Waltons will understand... elzenmahn Jun 2014 #5
I never shop there and constantly shill against them Populist_Prole Jun 2014 #6
I feel bad for Walmart workers... Michigander_Life Jun 2014 #7
"In the short term, however, hundreds of thousands of current Walmart employees will suffer." greiner3 Jun 2014 #10
People need to buy the things they need to buy somewhere Tom Rinaldo Jun 2014 #16
How's that free market working out for you, Wal-Mart? alp227 Jun 2014 #8
Customers are always smarter than corporate execs give them credit for laundry_queen Jun 2014 #13
Don't shop there anymore dem in texas Jun 2014 #9
It's been around fifteen years since SheilaT Jun 2014 #11
hmm davidthegnome Jun 2014 #12
Amazing how far this expose of walmart has come since it first started! mahalo applegrove~ Cha Jun 2014 #14
i don't go because their store are bascially half-empty dumps, due to their employment policies KG Jun 2014 #15
Stayed away for years because of poor pay to employees and poor Justice Jun 2014 #17
Another reason is because folks are too stupid to put the carts back. ileus Jun 2014 #18
I don't shop at walmart.. abakan Jun 2014 #19

okaawhatever

(9,461 posts)
2. What great news. It couldn't happen to a nicer group of d-bags. I can't wait until we get back to
Fri Jun 6, 2014, 11:23 PM
Jun 2014

full employment and those Wal Mart managers are begging people to come work there.

elzenmahn

(904 posts)
5. This is the ONLY THING that the Waltons will understand...
Sat Jun 7, 2014, 12:25 AM
Jun 2014

...the decreasing flow of 99 percenter cash, which made them multibillionaires, into their foreign bank accounts.

Anyone want to formalize this boycott? Sign me up!

Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)
6. I never shop there and constantly shill against them
Sat Jun 7, 2014, 12:29 AM
Jun 2014

I refer to the store to others as an evil empire. What really burns my ass though is how many people I know are so absolutely damned loyal to that store. Wal-Mart, Wal-Mart, Wal-Mart. It's like as far as they know, it's the only option in retail; even in a big cosmopolitan area like where I live. The way some of them talk; they can't live without it.

 

Michigander_Life

(549 posts)
7. I feel bad for Walmart workers...
Sat Jun 7, 2014, 12:34 AM
Jun 2014

If we continue to chip away at Walmart's stranglehold on our retail economy, we may well indeed create a better environment for workers in the long run. In the short term, however, hundreds of thousands of current Walmart employees will suffer .. And they're already barely getting by. There is going to be am excruciating lag time for those employees before other businesses can hide these soon-to-be ex Walmart employees.

 

greiner3

(5,214 posts)
10. "In the short term, however, hundreds of thousands of current Walmart employees will suffer."
Sat Jun 7, 2014, 12:54 AM
Jun 2014

I don't understand the above line, please clarify.

Also, did you mean to type 'hire' and not 'hide'.

Just sayin'.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,912 posts)
16. People need to buy the things they need to buy somewhere
Sat Jun 7, 2014, 08:39 AM
Jun 2014

If less people shop at Walmart due to how they treat their workers that may mean better paying jobs created elsewhere. Regardless, workers also suffer when they go out on strike. Clearly it's not in the best interests of labor to refuse to strike because of it.

alp227

(32,015 posts)
8. How's that free market working out for you, Wal-Mart?
Sat Jun 7, 2014, 12:47 AM
Jun 2014

Glad to see that customers realize, you get what you pay for, namely "always low prices don't mean the best customer service or most ethical business.

laundry_queen

(8,646 posts)
13. Customers are always smarter than corporate execs give them credit for
Sat Jun 7, 2014, 01:51 AM
Jun 2014

Here in Canada, Target's launch was a colossal failure. Why? Because Canadians had the nerve to expect our stores to be like American stores - low prices and tons of variety. Instead, Target basically hiked prices and not only didn't have much variety, their shelves were always empty. Then they couldn't figure out why people weren't flocking to Target after being so excited for the stores to open. duh.

Same thing with Walmart. You have to be living under a rock to not have a basic idea that Walmart pays its employees crappy wages and sells cheap shit. Add to that the recent 'empty shelves' issue and the price 'creep up' and customers are like, "fuck it" and they'll go somewhere else. For people to feel 'ok' about buying unethical stuff, there has to be a HUGE benefit. If the benefit is 5 cents, it's not enough, especially if you have to search or forgo half your shopping list. This is basic business school stuff.

BTW good to see the 'invisible hand' of the free market finally 'correcting' someone. Next thing you know, Walmart will be asking for a bailout for 'too big to fail', LOL.

dem in texas

(2,674 posts)
9. Don't shop there anymore
Sat Jun 7, 2014, 12:52 AM
Jun 2014

We used to go to Walmart once a month to buy food for our dogs and cats and also coffee, but we don't shop there many more. I won't go there until they start paying their employees a decent wage.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
11. It's been around fifteen years since
Sat Jun 7, 2014, 12:58 AM
Jun 2014

I've shopped at a Walmart.

And while I do recognize that if enough people stop shopping there, a lot of people will lose jobs, but that still does not (for me) justify shopping at a store that treats its employees as badly as it does.

davidthegnome

(2,983 posts)
12. hmm
Sat Jun 7, 2014, 01:16 AM
Jun 2014

" just 27 percent say that "treats its employees well" is a good description of Walmart"

27%? "Just" 27%? I'm willing to bet that the vast majority of all of these people polled, have little or no understanding of where Walmart's supply comes from, of who does most of the manufacturing of their goods, what kinds of conditions they live in - and so on. Yet a whopping twenty seven percent think Walmart treats it's employees well. The others have some vague notion that Walmart underpays it's employees, doesn't offer benefits and so on, but probably don't know the whole story. Neither do I, but I know enough to know that it goes beyond not treating it's American employees well. It's employees in developed Countries live like royalty compared to many of those who produce the goods that line their shelves.

You know why this happens? We allow it to - we wink at it even as we condemn it. We live in a culture that praises wealth for it's own sake, that all but worships "job creators". Our educational system is falling apart, our infrastructure is archaic, our social safety net is being eliminated, but somehow we manage to keep families like the Waltons from ever having to cook their own dinners or take out their own garbage. All the same, people will continue to praise "rugged individualism" as something that should be attributed to the wealthy, to the owners of society - and not those who build their homes, wash their windows, repair their broken limbs, or teach their children.

Sorry, I got carried away. Anyhow, when it comes right down to it, people shop at Walmart primarily for one reason only - it's goods are more affordable than you will typically find elsewhere, and there is an immense variety to be found within them. Bad PR will not hurt them - because all they have to do is drop the price of milk a little, maybe run a special promotion for some kind of item that is much desired - and cheaper at walmart than anywhere else. In a Nation where the minimum wage is so low as to be laughable, it should not surprise any of us that the majority of working and poor class Americans will take what they can get when it comes to cheap goods.

Walmart doesn't have to pay it's workers better, or offer better benefits. All they have to do is cycle out the employees who become educated or start demanding better treatment... and cycling in new ones who are desperate for work, of which there is no short supply.

Here's the thing - these big corporations? As evil and terrible as they are, they are winning, they've been winning for a long damn time. We have to alter the system that empowers them before we can make headway. To do that, we have to educate our people about more than just math and science, but about decency, about compassion and generosity, about sociology and psychology. You can see how well we're doing - just compare our funding for education with our funding for the military.

Justice

(7,185 posts)
17. Stayed away for years because of poor pay to employees and poor
Sat Jun 7, 2014, 08:55 AM
Jun 2014

Quality of goods.

That is the only way I can communicate to walmart that I disagree with them.

ileus

(15,396 posts)
18. Another reason is because folks are too stupid to put the carts back.
Sat Jun 7, 2014, 09:01 AM
Jun 2014

Instead the let them roam the parking lot like they do their pets.

abakan

(1,819 posts)
19. I don't shop at walmart..
Sat Jun 7, 2014, 06:02 PM
Jun 2014

Then again I don't shop at Target, Home Depot, Hobby Lobby, Whole Foods, and more. I also don't buy anything produced by Koch Industries. Sometimes my politics keep me from getting what I want because I refuse to enter the store.

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