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bemildred

(90,061 posts)
Sat Jun 7, 2014, 11:14 AM Jun 2014

Stephen Fry denounces UK government for not acting on Snowden revelations

Stephen Fry has denounced the government's failure to act over the mass surveillance programme revealed by the whistleblower Edward Snowden, labelling its behaviour as "squalid and rancid".

Opening a day of debate to galvanise action against industrial-scale spying by the British and US intelligence agencies, Fry said that exploiting the fear of terrorism is a "duplicitous and deeply wrong means of excusing something as base as spying on the citizens of your own country".

The performer was speaking via a pre-recorded interview at a London summit on Saturday marking the anniversary of the start of Snowden's revelations, which were first published in the Guardian and the Washington Post.

The day of action is billed as the biggest privacy event of 2014, with more than 500 people attending the event at Shoreditch Town Hall in east London.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/07/stephen-fry-denounces-uk-government-edward-snowden-nsa-revelations

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Stephen Fry denounces UK government for not acting on Snowden revelations (Original Post) bemildred Jun 2014 OP
K&R. Corruption to the core. woo me with science Jun 2014 #1
Squalid and Rancid. Octafish Jun 2014 #2
Stephen is an intellectual giant and gem to the world Ichingcarpenter Jun 2014 #6
Stephen Fry rocks! n/t Laelth Jun 2014 #3
Nope. Chucky-Doll Jun 2014 #4
du rec. xchrom Jun 2014 #5
The British government has long been the lap dog of America. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2014 #7

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
6. Stephen is an intellectual giant and gem to the world
Sat Jun 7, 2014, 01:34 PM
Jun 2014

Unlike some of the midgets of naysayers supporting an abrogation of intellectual freedom and privacy.

 

Chucky-Doll

(21 posts)
4. Nope.
Sat Jun 7, 2014, 01:25 PM
Jun 2014

1) Why should Britain do anything about the NSA? Britain is the U.S. #1 ally. Plus, Edward Snowden leaked information about Britain's own surveillance activities with the NSA. However, hypocrites Germany, and France seem to forget that Snowden outed their governments, too. The reason Germany in particular lashed out at the U.S., was to get Germans to forget that the German government is also in cahoots with the NSA. German privacy activists, tried to sue Angela Merkel, and Germany's government over their own spying activities with the NSA.

2) Edward Snowden is not a whistleblower. Just because he stole a bunch of classified documents, and leaked them, doesn't automatically make him a whistleblower. We found out recently, Edward Snowden never sent any e-mails to the NSA about any concerns he may have had about any abuse. Edward Snowden snatched all those documents, and went out of his way to cover his tracks, but didn't grab the e-mails, too? More proof that Edward Snowden is a liar.

Snowden, and his fans seem to think the fact that the NSA even exists makes it illegal, and unconstitutional. Libertarians think anything they don't like, is illegal, and a violation of their Constitutional rights. But, that's not the way it works. Some people need to grow up.

3) Even the compliance reports Edward Snowden leaked, showed that the NSA was in compliance with the law, 99% of the time. And, a lower court cannot circumvent a decision (about meta-data) that was already made by the U.S. Supreme Court in 1979. Snowden, and his fans thought they had won some kind of victory, when a lower court tried to circumvent the U.S. Supreme Court, and said that collecting meta-data was "likely unconstitutional."

First, "likely unconstitutional" is weak language, and doesn't mean unconstitutional. Second, a different federal judge came up with the opposite conclusion just a week later. The other federal judge agreed with the U.S. Supreme Court's 1979 ruling that meta-data collection is both legal, and Constitutional. But, Edward Snowden, Glenn Greenwald, and their fans, ignored this federal judge's ruling.

4) It's been a year, and Edward Snowden still hasn't given any evidence, of any widespread abuse, or crimes committed by the NSA. He needs to put up, or shut up! Right now, he's just trying to keep his 15 minutes of fame from running out.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
7. The British government has long been the lap dog of America.
Sat Jun 7, 2014, 03:02 PM
Jun 2014

And, we share similar "western" values with them like colonialism, capitalism, and "picking up the White Man's Burden".

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