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Michelle Obama: You might learn something (Original Post) Algernon Moncrieff Jun 2014 OP
I so agree! nt babylonsister Jun 2014 #1
This also can be said PumpkinAle Jun 2014 #2
Open minds and open hearts are the first and second most important things Republicans do not want. Fred Sanders Jun 2014 #3
+100 Duppers Jun 2014 #12
Ms. Obama does not live in Texas Skittles Jun 2014 #4
I live in Nebraska, which is just as bad Algernon Moncrieff Jun 2014 #5
so essentially, your prez cares only when it affects him Skittles Jun 2014 #6
I'm saying theres some common ground on issues that effect us both Algernon Moncrieff Jun 2014 #7
find a common ground on issues that affect the FUTURE OF AMERICA AND THE WORLD Skittles Jun 2014 #10
OK, first - there's no need to yell/all caps Algernon Moncrieff Jun 2014 #15
I will use caps IF I FEEL LIKE USING CAPS Skittles Jun 2014 #17
NO, THERE'S REALLY NOT A GOOD REASON TO USE CAPS Algernon Moncrieff Jun 2014 #18
omg.....done here Skittles Jun 2014 #19
Better be very selective in choosing the Republican, though... hlthe2b Jun 2014 #8
THANK YOU Skittles Jun 2014 #11
Open minds and open hearts is right. I'm amazed with what appeals to GOPers at times. freshwest Jun 2014 #9
I agree. boston bean Jun 2014 #13
Maybe if they're an Eisenhower conservative. HughBeaumont Jun 2014 #14
Except, in my experience, rightwingers can't engage in a conversation decently. ananda Jun 2014 #16

PumpkinAle

(1,210 posts)
2. This also can be said
Sat Jun 7, 2014, 09:50 PM
Jun 2014

for those of different religions, cultures and where ever there are differences.

I wonder if Michelle would be interested in being president.

Algernon Moncrieff

(5,790 posts)
5. I live in Nebraska, which is just as bad
Sat Jun 7, 2014, 10:42 PM
Jun 2014

I served in my homeowners association with a President who is a born-again fundy and an Obama hater. We can still find common ground on issues like wanting to keep a strong Neighborhood Watch and getting the potholes filled.

Algernon Moncrieff

(5,790 posts)
7. I'm saying theres some common ground on issues that effect us both
Sat Jun 7, 2014, 10:46 PM
Jun 2014

Do you know what a 4-wheel alignment runs? I want the potholes filled too.

Skittles

(153,150 posts)
10. find a common ground on issues that affect the FUTURE OF AMERICA AND THE WORLD
Sat Jun 7, 2014, 11:26 PM
Jun 2014

like, CLIMATE CHANGE.......or INEQUALITY

go on, give it a shot

I'm not giving them points because they want the LOCAL POTHOLES FIXED

Algernon Moncrieff

(5,790 posts)
15. OK, first - there's no need to yell/all caps
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 08:40 AM
Jun 2014

I believe what Bill Clinton said - all politics is local. Those local issues are where common ground might be found -- that's all I'm saying. Then, if that bridge has been built, you might be able to get in a word about climate change when the 80 mph winds drive baseball sized hail into a neighboring town.

Algernon Moncrieff

(5,790 posts)
18. NO, THERE'S REALLY NOT A GOOD REASON TO USE CAPS
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 06:42 PM
Jun 2014

SORRY IF THE FACT THAT I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH MICHELLE OBAMA OFFENDS YOU.

hlthe2b

(102,225 posts)
8. Better be very selective in choosing the Republican, though...
Sat Jun 7, 2014, 10:46 PM
Jun 2014

Last edited Sun Jun 8, 2014, 08:27 AM - Edit history (1)

There's one heck of a lot of anger, racism, misogyny and overt hatred among many... not to mention bone-crushing ignorance.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
9. Open minds and open hearts is right. I'm amazed with what appeals to GOPers at times.
Sat Jun 7, 2014, 11:19 PM
Jun 2014

If you personalize things and call on them to live up to their values couched in religion or the BoR, they will break, unless they have gone too far down the road of hate radio and television. or are looking to profit from something that a Democrat knows harms others.

Go on the basis of total equality under the law, equal treatment and ask questions. Show your zeal and love for those you represent, your passion and the reasons why you will keep on advocating. If you really care about something, it's never about you as an individual. It's about somthing greater than yourself, a universal value.

They will respect when you tak the time to explain, that you see no other solution to certain things other than what you are advocating. And ask if they have a solution. If theirs does not work, explain why with facts and an open heart. When they realize they have no plan, they are more likely to support yours as humane.

If they don't want to deal with making things work, make them think about how they are dismissing the needs of those they don't know, berating 'special rights' for vulnerable groups while ignoring others whose privilege to have more is not considered.

You don't have to be negative, just ask how far are they willing to go to defend rights for all, being sure to put them in the group being defended. Many people have an innate sense of justice and believe in fair play, unless tainted and that can be appealed with the stories of real people and the impact of not living up to ideals.

That's been my experience. At times I have gone into things and I can scarely believe that I have to live on the same planet with some people. But I do. The thought of murder may flit across their mind and yours. If you are not talking to a faux or ditto head, it's easier. But at times if they are not having a tantrum, compassion for what they are aggrieved about goes a long way and can even pull them out of the fog and get something done.

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
14. Maybe if they're an Eisenhower conservative.
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 02:36 AM
Jun 2014

Reaganite to Dunning-Krugertarian? Sorry. There's no common ground to be had with people who

* treat the notion of the "Free Market" like a religious fundamentalist treats their Bible; infallible and incapable of error or corruption.

* believe there's such a thing as a "skills gap".

* believe in Horatio Alger fantasia.

* believe in discredited (by their architects, no less) cockamamie crapola like Trickle Down economics.

* think "foreign policy" means "blast the Bejesus out of random sovereign men, women and children who never threatened us in any way, shape or form".

* thinks the planet is the white man's birthright.

* have economic beliefs almost entirely rooted in victim-blaming, victim-denying, red-baiting and false dilemmas.

* believes there's no such thing as "bad luck".

* thinks life isn't fair by nature, when it's mostly not fair by design. Oh, and uses that chestnut as their main "go-to".

* play dumb when you point out their racism, sexism and misogyny.

* wouldn't be satisfied unless the poor were eating bugs and living in mud huts.

* think homogenized 1960s sitcoms should be models for modern values.

* have absolutely no concept of the admission of error.

ananda

(28,858 posts)
16. Except, in my experience, rightwingers can't engage in a conversation decently.
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 08:42 AM
Jun 2014

They get crazy.. overheated, hateful, bullyish, and attacky... and if
effectively challenged, they get all victimy and paranoid and cynical.

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