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LuckyTheDog

(6,837 posts)
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 11:13 AM Jun 2014

Heavily armed sovereign citizen wounds deputy in doomed GA courthouse takeover plot

Authorities shot and killed a sovereign citizen Friday morning outside a Georgia courthouse after he brought weapons and explosives in an attempt to take over the building.

Investigators said Dennis Marx arrived at the Forsyth County Administration Building with an assault rifle, bulletproof vest, smoke grenades, and a gas mask.

Marx also brought water and other supplies, ammunition, zip-tie restraints, and buckets of homemade explosives to the courthouse, said Sheriff Duane Piper.


“He came here with the purpose of occupying the courthouse,” Piper said.

He deployed stop sticks at the courthouse entrance to prevent other vehicles from driving closer and opened fire from his vehicle.
MORE HERE: http://wonkynewsnerd.com/heavily-armed-sovereign-citizen-wounds-deputy-doomed-ga-courthouse-takeover-plot/


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Heavily armed sovereign citizen wounds deputy in doomed GA courthouse takeover plot (Original Post) LuckyTheDog Jun 2014 OP
Oh good god this is getting ridiculous.... VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #1
"Sovereign citizen"? WTF kind of description is that? What about simply saying "heavily armed man"? peacebird Jun 2014 #2
they are the nutjobs Duckhunter935 Jun 2014 #3
Or "crazy person" backscatter712 Jun 2014 #4
It seems Raw Story is responsible for that phrase: dixiegrrrrl Jun 2014 #5
They are a real "thing" - loony tunes who don't recognize our laws. Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2014 #6
tax dodgers. nt WhiteTara Jun 2014 #7

peacebird

(14,195 posts)
2. "Sovereign citizen"? WTF kind of description is that? What about simply saying "heavily armed man"?
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 12:17 PM
Jun 2014

What is up with this "sovereign citizen" bs?

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
3. they are the nutjobs
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 12:33 PM
Jun 2014

that do not recognize the USA or its laws. He was one and it describes how nutty he was. I am curious on if his weapons were legally obtained. I would assume no.

He has been due in court Friday to plead out on marijuana distribution and firearms possession charges.

Marx also brought water and other supplies, ammunition, zip-tie restraints, and buckets of homemade explosives to the courthouse, said Sheriff Duane Piper.

The sheriff described Marx’s home, where he apparently had not lived for 10 days, as a “bomb,” saying the house had been booby-trapped with homemade explosives.


I think he ignored the law on the homemade bombs also.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
4. Or "crazy person"
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 12:33 PM
Jun 2014

It it weren't for all the weapons, they should be having the guys in the white coats go and get him, fit him in a straitjacket, put him in the psych ward, and give him a prescription of Thorazine.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
5. It seems Raw Story is responsible for that phrase:
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 12:36 PM
Jun 2014

That site took the story from Raw story site
( see attribution at bottom of OP link)

Here is Raw Story's version:
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/06/06/heavily-armed-sovereign-citizen-wounds-deputy-in-doomed-ga-courthouse-takeover-plot/

Raw Story links to a Local Atlanta tv page, where the report makes no mention of "Sovereign citizen",
so it seems that Raw Story came up with that term.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,315 posts)
6. They are a real "thing" - loony tunes who don't recognize our laws.
Sun Jun 8, 2014, 12:42 PM
Jun 2014

And have a habit of killing cops.



Sovereign citizen movement

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_citizen_movement
The sovereign citizen movement is a loose grouping of American litigants, commentators, tax protesters and financial scheme promoters. Self-described sovereign citizens take the position that they are answerable only to common law and are not subject to any statutes or proceedings at the federal, state, or municipal levels, or that they do not recognize U.S. currency and that they are "free of any legal constraints".[1][2][3] They especially reject most forms of taxation as illegitimate.[4] Participants in the movement argue this concept in opposition to "federal citizens" who, they say, have unknowingly forfeited their rights by accepting some aspect of federal law.[5]

Many members of the sovereign citizen movement believe that the U.S. Government is illegitimate.[6] JJ MacNab, who writes for Forbes about anti-government extremism, describes the sovereign citizen movement as consisting of individuals who believe that the County Sheriff is the most powerful law enforcement officer in the country, with authority superior to that of any federal agent, elected official, or local law-enforcement.[7]

The United States Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) classifies some sovereign citizens ("sovereign citizen extremists&quot as a domestic terrorist movement.[8] In 2010 the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) estimated that approximately 100,000 Americans were "hard-core sovereign believers" with another 200,000 "just starting out by testing sovereign techniques for resisting everything from speeding tickets to drug charges."[9]



2010[edit]

In May 2010, two police officers in West Memphis, Arkansas were shot and killed by Joseph T. Kane after Kane and his father were the subject of a traffic stop. Kane and his father were later identified as members of the sovereign citizen movement.[34][35]


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