the Republicans know they don't have a chance. They will just put up a sacrificial candidate and wait until 2020.

She has them running scared. They may never win another presidential if things keep going this way.

However, I can see Democrats having three or four straight wins before switching to a Republican. Our country is still split about 50-50. One of the reasons that Romney lost is that conservatives stayed home in 2012 because they hated Romney. There are tons of other reasons why President Obama won too.

They hate too many people.

However, I could see financially someday.

But their economic policies are geared towards the few, and even they are noticing that they are losing the middle class by fighting for corporations. I know i personally will never vote for one in my life. I like my reproductive freedom and voting.

Hell, I might even consider voting for them if that happened.

Do you advocate voting for Republicans while posting on DU?

and the Roosevelt wing of the early 20th century Republican Party was in several ways more progressive than the current Democratic establishment.

Voter suppression

They (Koch's) donated money to the United Negro College fund recently for historically black colleges. And the GOP just announced they are opening up college republican charters on..... historically black colleges. Those two things mean they are coming for educated middle and upper middle class black people who voted in the highest proportions in the last election. The voter suppression will end with the opening up and wealthier and higher educated black are sometimes susceptible to their views as it is financially beneficial to them. The indoctrination starts. 50 million from one place 60 million dollars from the GOP just to get started. By the time 2014 comes around they may have shut their racists down to steal our votes.

No. We should not do that. We should have a vigorous primary and see who the best candidate is. Her middle east views need to be discussed so that we can be sure she wont make the same mistake twice and i am worried about her hawkish views. We need to ask questions and get some solid policy from her and see who else wants to run. I suspect we will have a good selection to choose from and if someone can beat her, they deserve our vote as long as they are not a conservadem.

The GOP is already cowering in fear at th sound of her name.

Republicans will be hoping to hold on to states like Texas and Georgia and prevent a Johnson-Goldwater like landslide. Heck, if one of the Castro brothers is on the ticket as a VP candidate, she could take Texas...

My heart. I love that idea. I would rub it in their face all day the next day, oh please let it happen!! I want to try trolling a conservative website. It would be fun that day . We at least we could go to discussionist and drink their sad conservative tears. I can't decide which Castro brother it should be.

How's she polling on Wall Street?

I have no idea. Do you? I would find that information interesting to discuss. Let's see if we can find anything.

Thanks for asking.

Oh, yeah, if you are not white you don't count. I forgot my place.

And 3 times more than all other races combined?

Ah, another fun day on DU!

We would still probably lose them with Hillary, but by a much smaller margin. That margin may make all the difference in 2016.

She is not loved by most of the 'just right of center' crowd, a demographic as necessary to a Democratic candidate winning a presidential election as those just left of center are to a Republican winning. Has this type of early proclamation ever been accurate? I don't remember a time in my lifetime when it has...and the party would do well to look at that. ..

so much time is spent writing about Clinton who has always been a corporate shill, and little space is given to a truly progressive candidate? I much prefer Bernie Sanders to any Clinton. I surely hope he runs and gets the nomination.

In what world would Sanders win a Democratic nomination, let alone a general election?????

However, that's not us.

and Grayson for AG.

heh

Or even Sanders or (Sherrod) Brown in the mix.

cinch the progressive and populist vote ...and with Grayson or Sanders for AG we would see a lot of righteous actions. I can't see not having Sanders in an effective position.

I know--he'd have to change his party affiliation...OTOH that's an elected position and the Senators are not that smart. Sanders at Treasury would shake things up.

It's clear a great segment of the population refused to vote Obama because he was black. That won't be a problem for Hillary.

She'll pick up a lot more votes in areas Dems pre-Obama did a lot better in that supposedly 'swung red', when in reality, they simply 'swung white' in the last couple of elections.

It showed each county and which degree they swung between the 2004 and 2008 elections. Of course, since Obama won by a sizable margin (and Kerry lost the popular vote in 2004), nearly the entire map showed an increase in county-level support for Obama. The lone exception? The deep south (specifically, Appalachia).

And I found the map:

I think it basically backstops what you just said.

I will NOT say it today, but when you are right you're right.

You won't say it because we've seen that on DU, you'd likely get hidden for doing so. You just don't have that .... privilege.

But with demographic changes coming on the horizon, maybe my kids will? Hope so.
Was that too much?

So far as we know - she was a solid D by the time that s.o.b. got into office and destroyed America from within. That's good enough for me! I'm not gonna trust anyone who voted for Reagan. That man hated my guts brave - and he hated yours too!

I figured out why the Koch Brothers donated that money to UNCF.

But everyone is walking around here with their heads in the clouds trying to say - awww shucks girls! There's nothing to see here. Take the money and run.


The truth is bravenak - if I ever decided "I'm going to vote on my economic interests" - this party would lose me.

And in some circles of black folks I get picked on for NOT being a Republican that worships at the altar of that idiot Allen West. *smh* I think it's true - that 6% one of the articles is touting. It's very true. Take it to 12% by getting them young and early and you skew the election.

I have been afraid that they would start stealing disaffected black voters once Obama is not running again and I think it might work for some. If they stop the racism and steal some of our platform it will definitely split the Black vote. I figured you were one of the people who they would love to steal the most. I grew up with a republican father and never knew they were racist because he was white and he wasn't. I think we need to shore up our base and reach out to our voters before it's too late.

And those 'kids' on campus - the legacy kids ALL come from folks who made their money as staunch Republicans. That message/history is handed down - the glory days when they were on our side.

And if they are reaching for something to believe in - they just might reach for this.

I had such hope yesterday.... We have our own 'problems' to work out on race and they are infecting the whole country. I hope they don't beat us to the punch. I keep trying to warn that blacks people are becoming a bit disillusioned by the party not the president. Nobody believes me and they think i am trying to divide. I am trying to call attention to the issues people like me have with the party so that we prevent losing loyal Obama Voters. I think i will stop for a while until after midterms and then revisit the issue.

just like all the stupid republican outreaches to minorities. it's to make the party seem like they are not as bigoted as democrats and other try to make them out to be.

Not surprisingly, they tend to be the loudest ones shouting about everything democrats are doing wrong.

were hoping for a Hillary nomination, thinking it would be an easy win for John McCain and the Repubs nationwide.

Support Hillary or keep trashing her and risk the WH going to a Republican in 2016. Where are the folks that keep repeating that they won't vote for her no matter what? Stay home then, and watch her steamroll through the competition. This is not 2008.

Otherwise, i have no idea what kinda tricks the GOP will come up with. They're already going into black colleges and starting clubs and funding them and the Koch's just gave millions to the United Negro College fund a couple of days before they announced this, so i think they have a plan. It may work to some extent. Alot of these kids come from much wealthier families than i do.

Sometimes this place feels like being on a RW site. There's nothing the Clintons could do to please some and a negative motivation is given to their every utterance. I'm beyond tired of fighting the same battles over and over, particularly in a Democratic site.

I have no issue with anyone supporting a different candidate, that's fair. What I object to is the rampant hate fest that is brought on by any article on either Clinton.

We should not eat our own politicians for breakfast,lunch, and dinner.

First, she has to make it through the Democratic primaries. That's not a given.

The Republican strategy so far has been to keep screaming Benghazi at the top of their lungs to those who will listen. Their problem is that those who are listening weren't voting for Hillary anyway.

The Republicans will do their best to counter by trying to put a member of some non-white group on their ticket. Rafael Cruz one obvious choice, although I would not bet against Susanna Martinez winning the Veepstakes over there no matter who they nominate for the top spot.