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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhy call him Sergeant Bergdahl?
Why not revert him back to his former rank? Even with no charges against him, he's back in the Army and only received his promotions in absentia. Others the Army would have had to undertake formal courses, training and assessment to reach his rank.
Any experts on why he should or will remain a Sergeant?
jehop61
(1,735 posts)Skidmore
(37,364 posts)longship
(40,416 posts)He's a sargeant. Period.
Lefta Dissenter
(6,622 posts)Why don't we just go ahead and give him a dishonorable discharge?
Wow, the swiftboating is a powerful force.
hack89
(39,171 posts)he is called Sergeant Bergdahl because he is Sergeant Bergdahl.
FourScore
(9,704 posts)pipoman
(16,038 posts)Enrique
(27,461 posts)i was wondering that myself.
rbrnmw
(7,160 posts)Don't you mean while being held captive by the enemy? The swiftboating on DU is disgusing
justiceischeap
(14,040 posts)and they too have had no training and get to keep their ranks.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battlefield_promotion#Types_of_Battlefield_Promotion
Jeneral2885
(1,354 posts)No heroics were performed for sure unless the investigation says so.
justiceischeap
(14,040 posts)or as a POW is considered heroic.
Lurks Often
(5,455 posts)the past 5 years hadn't happened. Everything up to E-4 is pretty much automatic barring any disciplinary issues and he passes his PT test as required.
To become a Sergeant requires passing PLDC (Primary Leadership Development Course). Presuming he isn't court-martialed and found guilty AND chooses to stay in the military, he will probably be required to pass PLDC at a later date. My own guess is that, if he is not court martialed and found guilty, he will chose to not re-enlist and will leave the Army as a Sergeant.
giftedgirl77
(4,713 posts)promoted to E5. You just have to have it within a certain time of making rank. Just an FYI.
Lurks Often
(5,455 posts)giftedgirl77
(4,713 posts)They haven't called it that in years.
Jeneral2885
(1,354 posts)So people still are Specialists or Corporals after 5 years.
pipoman
(16,038 posts)And is automatically re enlisted while in captivity.
Lurks Often
(5,455 posts)POW's get promoted based on when they would have been promoted if they had not been captured. This isn't the first time a POW has been promoted.
kelliekat44
(7,759 posts)hatrack
(59,583 posts)Travelman
(708 posts)He was promoted, even though he was absent. Hence, "in absentia." It's not new, nor is it somehow derogatory. Lots of people have been promoted in absentia in the past. IIRC, John McCain was promoted when he was held in the Hanoi Hilton, for example.
Oilwellian
(12,647 posts)before we execute him.
Travelman
(708 posts)Barring anything else, he would have gotten that promotion to Sergeant anyway by virtue of his time in the Army. If the Army takes away one or more stripes, then that's another matter, but at least for now, he has earned the rank of Sergeant and should be afforded that title.
That having been said, I heard over the weekend that he has said that he does not feel that he has earned the rank and has asked to be addressed as Private instead. Frankly, I don't know what the Army's stance is on something like that.
Until the Army says otherwise, I'll be calling him Sergeant because that's the rank he has earned.
Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)Why do you seem intent on denigrating that fact?
Hekate
(90,638 posts)There is a real difference
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)"Why call him Sergeant Bergdahl?"
Take the answer to the first question and put it in front of his name. That will answer your question.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Victor_c3
(3,557 posts)I have nothing to base it off of, but that is just my hunch.
Let the guy have his rank. To take it away from him would only add to the sense of shame that I'm sure he is feeling for no reason.
Iggo
(47,548 posts)That's why.
Jeneral2885
(1,354 posts)He never sat through the same promotions as other soldiers did.
Iggo
(47,548 posts)Have a nice day.
pipoman
(16,038 posts)Without a hint of knowledge of the military speak about such things. .lol
frylock
(34,825 posts)unless you have some inside knowledge based on your MOS, you're talking straight outta your ass.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)doxydad
(1,363 posts)These promotions are standard, and if your MIA or POW, you will automatically receive these promotions.
MineralMan
(146,285 posts)What should we call you, Jeneral? What's your rank? I doubt that you're a General in any military organization. Most Generals know how to spell their rank.
So, give us a rundown of your military service and rank, if you don't mind.
I was a Sergeant in the USAF. On my discharge in 1969, I no longer had any rank in the USAF. I was a civilian again.
So, tell us of your military service, please.
sarisataka
(18,578 posts)he has been promoted to sergeant?
Th courses and other requirements can be waived if there are extenuating circumstances. I received a couple promotions without having all of the "by the book" requirements. You simply take the appropriate course when available.
Why would he be reduced in rank? Was there some act he committed justifying a reduction?
Zorra
(27,670 posts)bigtree
(85,986 posts). . . doesn't mean he shouldn't be given credit for time served in the field.
Take some time to read the fucking regs and piss off.
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Orsino
(37,428 posts)...by anonymous Internet military experts who can properly characterize Bergdahl's performance.
Spirochete
(5,264 posts)of the nicer things he's been called recently. He shoukd maybe get another promotion just based on the shit he's had to take from his own countrymen lately.