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MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 09:51 AM Jun 2014

So, they were part of the Bundy Ranch standoff AND they draped the bodies with a Gadsen Flag?

We're getting pretty damned close to a point where the Tea Party needs to be designated as a terrorist organization:

Neighbors: Las Vegas Shooters Bragged About Taking Part In Bundy Standoff

Catherine Thompson – June 9, 2014, 9:35 AM EDT

Neighbors of the couple who ambushed two police officers Sunday in Las Vegas told local newspapers the pair had bragged about spending time at Cliven Bundy’s ranch during the standoff with the federal government earlier this year.

The two suspects, whose names have not yet been released, fatally shot two police officers who were having lunch at a CiCi’s Pizza restaurant before killing a third person at a nearby Wal-Mart. The female suspect then shot the male suspect and then herself in an apparent suicide pact.

Neighbors in an apartment complex where the two suspects lived said they “had a reputation for spouting racist, anti-government views” and boasted about their gun collection, according to the Las Vegas Sun. The newspaper reported that residents of the apartment complex who spoke about the suspects also brought up the couple’s relationship with Bundy Ranch, where the two bragged about being present for the standoff between militia members and the Bureau of Land Management.


TPM Link

EDITING TO ADD CLARITY

... Without warning, they were fatally shot at point-blank range by a man and a woman who then swiped the officers’ weapons, ammunition and badges, according to the Review-Journal. “This is a revolution,” one of the suspects shouted, according to witnesses.

The couple then reportedly covered the officers’ bodies with a cloth showing a Revolutionary War-era flag.

The newspaper reported it was the Gadsden flag, a yellow background with a coiled snake above the words, “Don’t tread on me.” Named for Christopher Gadsden, the Revolutionary War general who designed it, the flag has been more recently associated with the American Tea Party movement and, by some, with the Confederacy.

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So, they were part of the Bundy Ranch standoff AND they draped the bodies with a Gadsen Flag? (Original Post) MohRokTah Jun 2014 OP
Gun culture strikes again. nt onehandle Jun 2014 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author geomon666 Jun 2014 #2
You still have time to edit your post before you get banned from this site. MohRokTah Jun 2014 #3
I was speaking of the shooters. geomon666 Jun 2014 #4
It's been all over this site. Multiple threads. They draped the corpses of the police... MohRokTah Jun 2014 #8
I hadn't seen that yet as I have just woken up. geomon666 Jun 2014 #13
I just updated. MohRokTah Jun 2014 #17
You can't say any fairer than that. Thanks. riqster Jun 2014 #20
Read the article before posting, next time. riqster Jun 2014 #9
The article in the OP mentioned nothing of a Gadsen Flag. n/t geomon666 Jun 2014 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author riqster Jun 2014 #16
Assume what? That it was the shooters that had been draped in a Gadsen Flag? geomon666 Jun 2014 #18
Thanks for explaining, and for the self-delete. riqster Jun 2014 #21
Well, it wasn't clear to me what you meant, 'Race'. randome Jun 2014 #10
To be fair - the TPM link isn't very clear - hedgehog Jun 2014 #11
Every site I've been to has mentioned it MynameisBlarney Jun 2014 #36
I just voted to hide. riqster Jun 2014 #5
I didn't read anything in the article about a flag, where did that come from snooper2 Jun 2014 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author misterhighwasted Jun 2014 #7
Stochastic terrorism, exemplified hatrack Jun 2014 #6
+1e100 phantom power Jun 2014 #27
Which...tea party...which is part of the problem nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #15
Take back the Gadsden Flag from these thugs who don't even understand its progressive origins. blm Jun 2014 #19
Might be too late for that. geomon666 Jun 2014 #22
What kind of a coward gives up on history because of a group of morons? blm Jun 2014 #24
THIS is their flag now: eShirl Jun 2014 #35
The Ambush State. DhhD Jun 2014 #45
Sure glad Eric Holder clamped down on the Bundy Bunch. GeorgeGist Jun 2014 #23
Sure glad Eric Holder clamped down on the Bundy Bunch. AlbertCat Jun 2014 #40
I have to assume that they really were at Bundy's ranch Curmudgeoness Jun 2014 #53
Yep, they were there. AlbertCat Jun 2014 #54
I was wondering if they had a connection to the Bundy Ranch Kaleva Jun 2014 #25
The officers guns did not protect them treestar Jun 2014 #26
THE ELEMENT OF SURPRISE (AMBUSH) TRUMPS ALL AVAILABLE WEAPONRY elehhhhna Jun 2014 #50
First Tea Party Killings, but won't be the last. dem in texas Jun 2014 #28
so true heaven05 Jun 2014 #37
This isn't the first. Plus others that were intercepted. blm Jun 2014 #52
These isolated incidents are likely to result in something worse randys1 Jun 2014 #29
YEP!!!!! heaven05 Jun 2014 #38
Call 'em what they are terrorists Botany Jun 2014 #30
Vigilante white supremacist sulphurdunn Jun 2014 #31
This needs a major update... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2014 #32
Note that the media still says the motive is "unclear". Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2014 #33
Doesn't this prove a point? mgardener Jun 2014 #34
You miss the greater point. Enthusiast Jun 2014 #39
"Pretty Damned Close?" ya think? TBF Jun 2014 #41
No. That's too close to calling all muslims terrorists because Al Quada is for my taste Tom Rinaldo Jun 2014 #42
No surprise workinclasszero Jun 2014 #43
K&R billh58 Jun 2014 #44
Why aren't they releasing the names and photos of the suspects? IronLionZion Jun 2014 #46
i was wondering that Enrique Jun 2014 #47
here they are Enrique Jun 2014 #48
More here IronLionZion Jun 2014 #51
You'll see this more and more.. doxydad Jun 2014 #49

Response to MohRokTah (Original post)

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
3. You still have time to edit your post before you get banned from this site.
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 10:01 AM
Jun 2014

To suggest that two cops who had been murdered should have a "blanket of shit and piss" draped on them puts you on the same level as the murderers who draped their bodies in the Gadsen flag.

geomon666

(7,512 posts)
4. I was speaking of the shooters.
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 10:08 AM
Jun 2014

Again I didn't see anything that suggested cops were draped in Gadsen Flags. I assumed they were speaking of the shooters.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
8. It's been all over this site. Multiple threads. They draped the corpses of the police...
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 10:11 AM
Jun 2014

with the Gadsen flag.

Response to geomon666 (Reply #14)

geomon666

(7,512 posts)
18. Assume what? That it was the shooters that had been draped in a Gadsen Flag?
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 10:19 AM
Jun 2014

1. I had just woken up and I'm not all there yet.
2. Had never heard this news before.
3. It sounds like something these nuts (the shooters) would do for each other.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
10. Well, it wasn't clear to me what you meant, 'Race'.
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 10:12 AM
Jun 2014

You should edit or delete because your post is about to get hidden.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]You should never stop having childhood dreams.[/center][/font][hr]

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
11. To be fair - the TPM link isn't very clear -
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 10:12 AM
Jun 2014

The tragedy in Las Vegas unfolded Sunday afternoon as two police officers ate lunch at CiCi’s Pizza — a world away from the glitz and glamour of the Las Vegas strip.

Without warning, they were fatally shot at point-blank range by a man and a woman who then swiped the officers’ weapons, ammunition and badges, according to the Review-Journal. “This is a revolution,” one of the suspects shouted, according to witnesses.

The couple then reportedly covered the officers’ bodies with a cloth showing a Revolutionary War-era flag.

The newspaper reported it was the Gadsden flag, a yellow background with a coiled snake above the words, “Don’t tread on me.” Named for Christopher Gadsden, the Revolutionary War general who designed it, the flag has been more recently associated with the American Tea Party movement and, by some, with the Confederacy.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/06/09/report-swastikas-found-in-apartment-of-las-vegas-cop-killers/

Response to geomon666 (Reply #2)

geomon666

(7,512 posts)
22. Might be too late for that.
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 10:28 AM
Jun 2014

Much like the battle flag of the Army of Northern Virginia, these people will totally corrupt it.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
40. Sure glad Eric Holder clamped down on the Bundy Bunch.
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 12:34 PM
Jun 2014

Like these two really were there.....

I mean, they said they were!

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
53. I have to assume that they really were at Bundy's ranch
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 07:39 PM
Jun 2014

since the "patriots" there are saying that they were "asked to leave".

Cliven Bundy’s son told the Associated Press that “Jerad and Amanda Miller were asked to leave his father’s ranch after being there for a few days this spring,” claiming that they were “very radical.” “Not very many people were asked to leave,” he said. “I think they may have been the only ones.”


http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2014/06/09/3446421/murder-of-two-police-officers-fueled-by-racist-ideology/
 

elehhhhna

(32,076 posts)
50. THE ELEMENT OF SURPRISE (AMBUSH) TRUMPS ALL AVAILABLE WEAPONRY
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 01:02 PM
Jun 2014

sorry - accidental caps, leaving it that way. It needs to be repeated constantly to the "good guy with a gun" idiots.

dem in texas

(2,672 posts)
28. First Tea Party Killings, but won't be the last.
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 11:12 AM
Jun 2014

Fox News, Sean Hannity, Rush L. and all the right wing talking heads who egged these crazy people on with their over the top rhetoric have blood on their hands.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
29. These isolated incidents are likely to result in something worse
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 11:12 AM
Jun 2014

Since our Black president and his Black AG are not allowed to react to white supremacist terrorists aka teaparty the same way they must react to any other terrorists, this will be hard to deal with over time.

As i have said now for years, teaparty exists SOLELY to oppose Black prez because of skin color, if I say anymore I will be targeted by them and my life and my wife's life will be in jeopardy, in fact I am so outspoken about this that we already are in danger.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
38. YEP!!!!!
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 12:30 PM
Jun 2014

+1000 Stay safe. You have expressed what many of us know is the honest truth about the racial aspect of the whole BS of "wanting their country back" that is spewing like vomit from these "patriots".

 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
31. Vigilante white supremacist
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 11:42 AM
Jun 2014

terrorism goes back at least as far as the KKK and is becoming common again. It really is time for law enforcement to take these people down. And if they choose to fight, better now than later.

mgardener

(1,799 posts)
34. Doesn't this prove a point?
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 12:16 PM
Jun 2014

That even having a gun in a deadly situation does NOT prevent killings?
Here were 2 cops, trained, with weapons that could not prevent their own deaths.
How does having more guns prevent situations like this?

So if 2 trained officers could not protect themselves then how does an untrained person with a gun matter?

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
39. You miss the greater point.
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 12:32 PM
Jun 2014

The gun manufacturers sold at least 4 guns. And this incident should generate fear which should account for additional sales.

TBF

(31,921 posts)
41. "Pretty Damned Close?" ya think?
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 12:36 PM
Jun 2014

Holder has no problem calling leftists terrorists (see: Freedom Road frso.org) but when will we hear from him on right-wing groups??

Tom Rinaldo

(22,911 posts)
42. No. That's too close to calling all muslims terrorists because Al Quada is for my taste
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 12:37 PM
Jun 2014

But yes more groups at the fringes of the Tea Party probably should be.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
43. No surprise
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 12:38 PM
Jun 2014

Figured they were teabaggers. So Occupy peaceful unarmed protesters get maced, clubbed, shot and beaten up by the police.

These reich wing gun humpin nazi freaks at Bundy's don't get a finger laid on them so now they must think its open season on the law and who ever happens to be in front of their assault weapons sight at the time.

Gee I wonder how many cops vote republican and are faithful followers of hate radio?

I'm sure abcnbccbscnn etc with get right on this story about murderous republican teabaggers right away!

billh58

(6,635 posts)
44. K&R
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 12:41 PM
Jun 2014

This is the right-wing gun lobby's definition of a "well regulated militia" where extremists and radicals are allowed to walk around armed 24/7.

IronLionZion

(45,258 posts)
46. Why aren't they releasing the names and photos of the suspects?
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 12:53 PM
Jun 2014

And how does the media know where they lived and who their neighbors are?

These people need to be publicly shamed along with their associated groups and movements.

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
47. i was wondering that
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 12:56 PM
Jun 2014

the only story I read was fairly long and I noticed it was missing these people's names. I thought I had missed it somehow.

I especially wanted to see their pictures, hopefully in their costumes.

doxydad

(1,363 posts)
49. You'll see this more and more..
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 01:01 PM
Jun 2014

There's no real push back to these terrorist types, and as long as we...AS A NATION...don't get gun laws, and strengthen the laws against these home land terrorists. Getting top the point that I'm afraid to watch the news...

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