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KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 12:53 PM Jun 2014

If Asians Said The Stuff White People Say

http://blog.angryasianman.com/2014/06/if-asians-said-stuff-white-people-say.html?m=1

BOOM. Check out this short but sweet BuzzFeed video by my good friend Abe Forman-Greenwald: If Asians Said The Stuff White People Say, in which our pal Jenny Yang and Eugene Yang turn the tables and drop a volley of ignorant comments... about white people. My people, you've heard it all before:

Oh no they didn't! When you put it that way, hypothetically, those comments sound pretty ridiculous. Well, guess what? The actual Asian version of those comments always sound ridiculous. To us. All the time.




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If Asians Said The Stuff White People Say (Original Post) KamaAina Jun 2014 OP
Come onnn ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #1
You forgot to use *some* in the OP.... bettyellen Jun 2014 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author PowerToThePeople Jun 2014 #7
This middle aged white guy hopes your coment is sarcasm... hunter Jun 2014 #9
Have you not noticed his other posts? nt redqueen Jun 2014 #11
Unless that's missing a sarcasm tag... gcomeau Jun 2014 #12
Awesome JustAnotherGen Jun 2014 #3
Forks in the Hair! Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2014 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Ken Burch Jun 2014 #33
why is it a bad sign that I have a pencil or pen easiliy accessible to me? Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2014 #41
It was meant as a joke...sorry. Ken Burch Jun 2014 #42
I sort of figured you were using it to springboard to your punchline ... Tuesday Afternoon Jun 2014 #43
Thanks. n/t. Ken Burch Jun 2014 #44
That was awesome Capt. Obvious Jun 2014 #5
LOL??? This might be valid if LittleBlue Jun 2014 #6
Two wrongs don't make a right... Moonwalk Jun 2014 #13
I didn't say it justified racism LittleBlue Jun 2014 #18
In countries where Asians are the majority, of course they can be racist eridani Jun 2014 #35
funny how that works, eh? oldandhappy Jun 2014 #8
When I was in Asia, the amount of casual racism I saw displayed was staggering mwrguy Jun 2014 #10
Agreed.... Rebubula Jun 2014 #24
I live in Korea and have for 10 years davidpdx Jun 2014 #36
As other replies said, some Asian countries are rife with racism quinnox Jun 2014 #14
Well, they damn well better post in English, or it'll get hidden Orrex Jun 2014 #15
Are the comparisons accurate? joeglow3 Jun 2014 #16
You may be not be seeing the forest but for the trees here, Joe QuestForSense Jun 2014 #25
That was funny. But as a White guy who started his IT career in the '80s... ieoeja Jun 2014 #17
Funny how that is, isn't it? Populist_Prole Jun 2014 #23
No Gaijin! Dame! Dame! Separation Jun 2014 #40
Reminds of this blast from the not too distant past KurtNYC Jun 2014 #19
God DAMN that was good! geardaddy Jun 2014 #20
I don't think her eyes are blue. sulphurdunn Jun 2014 #26
Ooooh, I like that a lot! Thanks KurtNYC! Scuba Jun 2014 #28
Wow. What kind of person posts a video OrwellwasRight Jun 2014 #29
Lulz...nt Jesus Malverde Jun 2014 #34
LOL! m-lekktor Jun 2014 #38
Hilarious! geardaddy Jun 2014 #21
K&R! DeSwiss Jun 2014 #22
Super freakin' funny! n/t customerserviceguy Jun 2014 #27
Brilliant! Cali_Democrat Jun 2014 #30
Totally asinine video. badtoworse Jun 2014 #31
well they say it, you just don't understand the language.nt fireflysky46 Jun 2014 #32
Lol Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2014 #37
Uhm, this would be funnier if it wasn't true in many instances... Humanist_Activist Jun 2014 #39

Response to bettyellen (Reply #2)

Tuesday Afternoon

(56,912 posts)
4. Forks in the Hair!
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 01:15 PM
Jun 2014


I feel bad now because I have used decorative chopsticks in updos. my bad.

I learned.

I have also stuck pencils and inkpens in my buns and ponytails while working

Response to Tuesday Afternoon (Reply #4)

Tuesday Afternoon

(56,912 posts)
41. why is it a bad sign that I have a pencil or pen easiliy accessible to me?
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 12:25 PM
Jun 2014

I don't get it.

as for the other comment.

Tuesday Afternoon

(56,912 posts)
43. I sort of figured you were using it to springboard to your punchline ...
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 07:01 PM
Jun 2014

and - honestly - lame as it was I did get a chuckle.

Lame jokes and Bad puns are a weakness of mine.

no harm done.


Cheers.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
6. LOL??? This might be valid if
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 01:20 PM
Jun 2014

Asian cultures weren't renowned for their racism and xenophobia.

The title should be "If Asian-Americans said the stuff white people say", although even that wouldn't be true.

Moonwalk

(2,322 posts)
13. Two wrongs don't make a right...
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 01:56 PM
Jun 2014

Their bigotry towards others doesn't justify our bigotry towards them, though perhaps a video on "if ___ talked to Asian-Americans a they talk to ____?"

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
18. I didn't say it justified racism
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 02:06 PM
Jun 2014

Just that if one has spent any time around Asian people at all, the headline could cause a good laugh.

eridani

(51,907 posts)
35. In countries where Asians are the majority, of course they can be racist
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 03:19 AM
Jun 2014

Minorities can only be prejudiced, since the power part is missing from the equation

Racism = prejudice + power

In Asia, Asians have the power.

mwrguy

(3,245 posts)
10. When I was in Asia, the amount of casual racism I saw displayed was staggering
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 01:45 PM
Jun 2014

Things that would cause a riot here in the US.

Rebubula

(2,868 posts)
24. Agreed....
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 03:24 PM
Jun 2014

....I love this site, but many people here seem to have not travelled very much.

Yes, the US and its dominant (not for long) culture may have plenty of problems - but the more I travel (60% international travel yearly) the more I see that people in ALL countries (and all walks of life) display the same attitudes and violence that some think only occurs in the 50 US States.

I speak Korean and the comments I hear when walking around Seoul with my black coworker is astounding. The things said behind his back would cause riots if said in NYC....of course, he is sadly used to it by now and we mostly laugh (although I suspect it hurts him more than he lets on) about this crap.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
36. I live in Korea and have for 10 years
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 04:45 AM
Jun 2014

Sometimes you have to have thick skin with the stuff that is said behind your back when living here.

I was on a subway platform a few years ago and an old Korean guy said something about me being fat (yes, I am overweight). I didn't ask my wife about it until we got on the train. The irony is that there are more Koreans who are overweight then say a decade ago when I arrived.

The N word is commonly used to describe AA's. Many of the older generation of men fought with AA's in the Korean War and probably picked it up from the white GI's (that's my guess). Filipinos are looked down on by Koreans as inferior.

There is still a belief by some (not all) that their children should not marry outside their race or have children that are of mixed heritage. I can't speak directly for those who are Korean-American, but I have heard that in many instances they are treated differently when it comes to teaching positions than a Caucasian in both pay and the work load they are given.

That being said, I'm married to a Korean and her family is really nice and treats me like their son.

I agree that it seems like many DU'ers have never been outside the US, so they only see the negative side of our culture and nation versus other cultures and nations. Every culture is going to have some inherent bias toward others.

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
14. As other replies said, some Asian countries are rife with racism
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 01:58 PM
Jun 2014

Research it if you doubt it, because its true. So holding up Asians as paragons of tolerance really doesn't make any sense.

 

joeglow3

(6,228 posts)
16. Are the comparisons accurate?
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 02:02 PM
Jun 2014

I agree that stereotypes are inherently bad, but I noticed some differences.

In the video: comment about all white people being fat. I assume the stereotype is that asian are not fat. While both are stereotypes, one is somewhat positive (not fat), while the other is somewhat negative (being fat).

Then, there was the comment about religion. Most people view Eastern religions as being peaceful. The comment here views Western religions as being hate filled. Again, trading a positive attribute with a negative one.

Next, many people stereotype Asians as being intelligent. Their counter is to stereotype whites as stupid.

I guess my point is that all stereotypes are bad, as it prevents you from getting to know the real person. That said, I would rather someone assume I am a smart, skinny, peaceful person and not a fat, stupid, hate-filled person.

QuestForSense

(653 posts)
25. You may be not be seeing the forest but for the trees here, Joe
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 03:38 PM
Jun 2014

I thought it was funny. What I liked best was the blithe manner used by the Asians. Stereotypes aren't made up. They're taken from reality - sort of like how caricatures are drawn - which is why they can be so hurtful, since only the truth hurts. They are not necessarily positive or negative; they're more an exaggeration. But while stereotypes do not necessarily connote prejudice, no one wants or likes others to assume they are something they are not, before they even open their mouth.

 

ieoeja

(9,748 posts)
17. That was funny. But as a White guy who started his IT career in the '80s...
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 02:05 PM
Jun 2014

... I experienced a LOT of bigotry against White people by Japanese.

It was extremely common for the period. I know a company founded by three White guys who gave their company an Asian sounding name precisely for this reason. I had Japanese programmers refuse to work with me because, as a White guy, I "wouldn't be able to understand" (actual quote). Management frequently told us they were sending our jobs to Japan because the Japanese were better programmers.

Then those programmers became as expensive as American programmers. And just like that, poof, they got dumb. I think I recall some bullshit about the Japanese becoming more complacent as they started making more. So off to Korea the jobs went. Til they got expensive. Then off to Malaysia, Indonesia, Manila and China.

On the plus side, by that point they stopped even trying to bullshit about it. "We're hiring them because they're cheaper, not better."

So, sorry, Japan. Turns out you were just cheap. Not better.

And no shit. Every such transition was painful as hell training them up to our standards. Which begged the question, which I asked in a meeting once, "we go through such pains to train them up on the technology, but accounting practices haven't dramatically changed in decades, so why don't we offshore accounting instead?"

Amazing how quickly the bean counters determined that it would be impossible to offshore bean counting jobs.

Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)
23. Funny how that is, isn't it?
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 03:04 PM
Jun 2014

"Amazing how quickly the bean counters determined that it would be impossible to offshore bean counting jobs"

Interesting that in today's hyper "lean & mean" business model, where they squeeze blood from a rock and sell the drained rock for pummice, how paper-pushers are always the most sacred cow.

Also interesting how they ( TPTB ) still, despite their overwhelming leverage, still try to disguise or downplay the fact it's all about cheap labor. As if they were actually afraid of us "getting wise" to their ulterior motives. As if it meant a solitary damn to them.

Separation

(1,975 posts)
40. No Gaijin! Dame! Dame!
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 05:38 AM
Jun 2014

I love Japan, it's culture, history, and people for the most part. Haven't been there since the 90's so I don't know if it has gotten any better, hopefully so. Was not uncommon to see "Japanese only, unless accompanied by Japanese" on many businesses.

Nobody is perfect and every country has it's issues of racism or bigotry in one form or another. I wish it wasn't so, but that's life.

KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
19. Reminds of this blast from the not too distant past
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 02:13 PM
Jun 2014

when this video by "not the most politically correct" person in America:



prompted this response:

 

Humanist_Activist

(7,670 posts)
39. Uhm, this would be funnier if it wasn't true in many instances...
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 05:34 AM
Jun 2014

hate to generalize, but a lot of Asian people, particularly recent immigrants, have no filter, and act very xenophobic and say some of the most racist shit you can imagine about others.

Its not so much IF Asians said stuff that white people say, but rather when Asians say stuff Asian people say about white people.

I will emphasize that its usually recent immigrants, traditionalists, and not all of them, of course, but only some.

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