It seems that there are two threads now with exactly the same title. I just recommended the other one, too. Duplicate threads are OK in DU. Anyone can post another one with the same title, and I'll recommend those, too.

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Maybe you can encourage Hillary to be a Democrat

Do you think she will run or do you buy into the ole "I think I can do more in the Senate than I can in the Executive" claim. Not an exact quote but she said something close to that. Either way it sounds to me like a lame excuse which means she could be thinking about running. I hope.

Some on DU are so insistent she will not run that they repeat it like a mantra. I don't know. Sounds like she isn't but they all say that. Clinton and Nush are the two candidates that have been "chosen" for us by the security/surveillance/war entrenched establishment. I remember when JFK Jr announced intentions to run after denying it for years and his plane went down a week later paving the way for the already decided Iraq War based on a stolen Bush presidency. When Sen. Paul Wellstone did the same thing post 911 indicating he would set a precedent voting against the Iraq War his plane went down. JFK Jr wouldve win on the women vote alone. Wellstone was in his way to the 2004 nomination as a democratic populist. The message is clear to me...if you want to rock the boat regarding foreign policy be very afraid. Wall St and War Contractors have spoken...they want Clinton vs Bush. Of course Warren WANTS to run...she just probably has some serious reservations about dirty tactics used against her or worse. There is too much money at stake and power to be gained by corporations who want to exploit us and they favor Clinton vs Bush.

She SCARES ME!! I like her & especially her drive & the fact she will not take any shit from the other side...BUT...

She seems to be tone deaf talking about being broke when many people in the country are truly broke & with no end in sight...Bill & Hillary both knew they were headed for enormous sums of money leaving office so, well, DAMN! What was she thinking? She wasn't & that is what scares me about her!!

SNIPER FIRE!!

I really wish Elizabeth Warren would run but I fear the forces that would rain down on her would be too much to win a general election...But I would LOVE THE CHANCE TO SEE!!!

Just my opinion please don't think I am trying to fight...I will fight for Hillary if she is the nominee just as I would fight for Elizabeth if she was. I just think my brand of politics meshes better with Elizabeth.

If people can declare their intent not to vote for the Democratic nominee, I think we can declare our intent, as well.

I'd feel stupidly negligent in not casting my votes. And while this admission is NO affirmation of my desires to see HRC as the Dem name on a ballot, I WILL vote for whoever is there with the (D) next to their name - primarily BECAUSE of that (D) and no reason other. My fingers are SEETHING at the prospect of elaborating why I feel like I do, but there's plenty of other threads where they can let it all hang out.

I will support the nominee, whoever he/she may be.

We are Democrats. Those who do not vote for Democrats are not Democrats, at least in that election.

Shit!!

I won't canvas or phone bank or be happy about voting HRC, but I will cast my vote for a D.

I always do in Presidential elections. Again, the alternative is unthinkable.

currently living trough unthinkable times. The public outcry is pretty well neutered though, through to much work, too little security, and too much MSM propaganda.

So will I.

The party that President represents has great meaning. That's what dictates my choice in every General Election. Your decision might be based on other things.

Gender is not, necessarily.

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You sound like you would vote for Condi Rice if the democrat nominee were male. Haven't we learned yet that it's about policies and actions not personality or race or gender? We are so easily manipulated as a population. Corporations are laughing at us. They know it's wrong but they see us as so stupid that we must deserve it. Clinton vs Bush again? Republican-Lite vs Republican? Is Republicrat going to be the newest entry in Webster's dictionary? Good grief.

I meant Democrat's nominee. Not on a computer.

Lol ...I just like your name.

and if that is HRC, I'll vote for her. Far easier to accomplish things with your person on "the inside". People can grow and change-look at Lincoln's evolution.

I would prefer Mrs Warren, but Hillary will be just fine.

a hat into the ring. If Bernie Sanders runs, he'll probably get my primary vote. But nobody has declared yet.

I would have to give real thought between Bernie and Elizabeth..
Hmmm, quandary..

Who knows at this point? We don't even know if Hillary Clinton is running. Nobody will announce until after the election in November.

I will vote for the Democratic nominee, whosoever she or he may be.

I won't be completely happy about it. And I will have voted for Elizabeth Warren in the Primary if she runs.

That I would gladly vote for every Democrat who has run for office since I have been of voting age over and over again. I have yet to regret it, especially considering the alternative. I will gladly vote for Hillary and believe she is quite a bit above the "lesser of two evils" option.

1.) Ted Cruz or the likes is completely out of the question.

2.) Obviously the 1%/RW'ers are solidly fearful of Her so that reinforces my motivation to vote for Her. They will say & do anything to smear Her and divide the masses against Her.

3.) Supreme Court nominees are extremely important.

4.) Sex means something to me and I'd love to see a Lady in the WH!!

5.) I think Hillary is very qualified for the job, is effective in international relations & is respected abroad more so than US Americans realize.

I would work for her, too.

The alternative is not an option. I hate "lesser of two evils" choices, but there is a special kind of evil on the right these days.

Most running against her for the Dem nomination will be to the left of her forcing her to move more to the left, plus the fight sharpens the skills of a politician like her or Bill.

They are so damn good at this, you know

begrudgingly.

Another oligarch, but better than any repuke.

I will vote for Hillary because I like her and I think she'll be an outstanding president. So there

If, after all we've been through, if it boils down to yet another choice between a very conservative corporate GOP candidate and a slightly less conservative Corporate Democratic candidate, I'll decide that the country is doomed to be locked into rule by Goldman Sachs and the Kochs, and just tune it all out and focus totally on the r est of my life,

never. Except in the general election where the R's will run a candidate worse than Walmart Hillary. Actually, they have no candidates worth voting for.

...when voting for the party's nominee in the general election. All I have to do is look at the alternative.

I am a Democrat for a reason, since 1968 like yourself.

That said, the more Hillary Clinton speaks out, the better she looks.

3rd time saying it. i will vote for the democrat even if i'm choking back bile at the ballot box.

i see no other reasonable way to vote.

certainly will vote for her. I just am not sure she will run. Her age should not be an issue, but the Republicans will try to use that against her. The Republicans will spend every dime they own to fight her. She will be under fire the entire time and the Koch brothers, Bush's brain, and probably every Republican governor in the country will use every crooked scheme they can conjure up to fight her. I feel she is strong enough. She has been on the Republican to do list since before Bill was running for office. However, her biggest enemy will be the television news organizations. I stopped listening to them. When someone is being interviewed on CNN they always have someone in the opposite category to blame them. Sometimes I feel I am watching
first-graders telling on one another. And it never stops! Watching Bones and Castle reruns are much more interesting. And they both catch the bad guys!

all good Democrats vote for Democrats in the General Election.

Democrats. It's part of the definition.

i second that . and i will vote for any, rpeat , any democrat who runs in 2014. i am also concentrating on the election in november hillary rocks

I will have extra pleasure voting for a woman president, and I hope she runs. She's qualified.

come hell or high water. Don't like some of her positions ect; but she's the one if she runs. And she will win. Don't want no stinking republican running nothing.

I honestly don't get the copycatting impulse. Why not use your own words instead of imitating me?

cast for President, and I've been doing that each opportunity since 1984.

I don't think she's the best we can bring to the table, but if she is our candidate, I'll vote for her.

Better than having the Rethuglicans in power.

I am hoping for Warren though. Or a Biden/Warren Ticket. I'd like Grayson/Warren, but I don't think we could handle another 4 years of congressional stagnation.

will you not only vote for the Democratic Candidate in the General,,, but will you support and work to get them elected!

efforts in my own districts. Democratic voters vote for democrats. I'll be doing that in 2014 & 2016, too. So yes.