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Atman

(31,464 posts)
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 04:13 PM Jun 2014

Why does anybody think the GOP will cooperate any more with a woman than a black man?

Especially when that women is Hillary Clinton?

I would expect she'll generate lots of back-lash votes for the GOP in 2016, then we're back to more gridlock as they attempt to stop everything she tries to do, just as they are doing with Obama. Remember, to the GOP, this is a country for old, rich white men. Women and blacks need to know their place.

Oh well. I think she'd be a good President. I think she'll generate a lot of excitement for the Democratic party. But so did Barack Obama, and it didn't help him any. The GOP will possibly be even worse toward Hillary after they suffer yet another humiliation at the hands of a "minority."

Just my 2¢.

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Why does anybody think the GOP will cooperate any more with a woman than a black man? (Original Post) Atman Jun 2014 OP
The gop will have to get over it. hrmjustin Jun 2014 #1
That's why we need to increase our majority in the Senate and take back the House. FSogol Jun 2014 #2
They'll be 'worn down' sometime... Lifelong Protester Jun 2014 #3
Face facts: The Gee Ohhh Pee isn't going to cooperate with any Democrat in the White House or...... LongTomH Jun 2014 #4
Why does anybody think the GOP will cooperate with ANY Democrat? jmowreader Jun 2014 #5
the monied part of the GOP will be quite happy with Hillary and this Leme Jun 2014 #21
they won't cooperate with any democrat. doesn't matter race, creed, sex, religion. period. spanone Jun 2014 #6
GOP won't cooperate with any Dem. n/t PowerToThePeople Jun 2014 #7
Nope. ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2014 #8
They won't because it's their nature... bluesbassman Jun 2014 #9
I certainly don't think that way. If anything, they'll have the sexist machine roaring. ancianita Jun 2014 #10
And alienate still more women? Cal33 Jun 2014 #13
It will get women more continually engaged in politics, and galvanize Congressional women. ancianita Jun 2014 #24
Right you are! And the Pubs will be cutting off their own noses to spite their own faces. Cal33 Jun 2014 #29
Hillary would not have wasted years trying to appease them Skittles Jun 2014 #11
Maybe not. Chucky-Doll Jun 2014 #17
he'd be higher had he not wasted time playing footsies with those corrupt bastards Skittles Jun 2014 #20
^^^ this ^^^ TDale313 Jun 2014 #28
Why would anybody think the GOP will cooperate with any Democrat at all? Cal33 Jun 2014 #12
I want to see their fucking heads explode warrior1 Jun 2014 #14
depends, but she has more white support than Obama so those voters JI7 Jun 2014 #15
The GOP won't cooperate with ANYONE who is not as batshit crazy as they are. n/t Yavin4 Jun 2014 #16
Would the GOP cooperate with ANY Democrat? davidn3600 Jun 2014 #18
Yes, and No. Chucky-Doll Jun 2014 #19
Why does anyone think they will cooperate with ANY DEMOCRAT? Why DID anyone think sabrina 1 Jun 2014 #22
Maybe she won't care. WinkyDink Jun 2014 #23
. boston bean Jun 2014 #25
really piss them off enid602 Jun 2014 #26
I have long wondered about this. The war on women includes Hillary. She has been through this jwirr Jun 2014 #27
I will answer that question as honestly as I can. hamsterjill Jun 2014 #30

FSogol

(45,476 posts)
2. That's why we need to increase our majority in the Senate and take back the House.
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 04:17 PM
Jun 2014

2014 is vitally important.

The anti-Hillary stuff at this point of time is just rat fucking intended to suppress Democratic votes in the 2014 midterms. She hasn't even announced.

Don't fall for it. GOTV.

LongTomH

(8,636 posts)
4. Face facts: The Gee Ohhh Pee isn't going to cooperate with any Democrat in the White House or......
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 04:23 PM
Jun 2014

.....in Congress. They're the party of obstruction.

jmowreader

(50,553 posts)
5. Why does anybody think the GOP will cooperate with ANY Democrat?
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 05:02 PM
Jun 2014

There are four choices.

We get a Democratic president, a D-controlled House and 62 D votes in the Senate (just to have a little bit of breathing room, in case another Joe Lieberman ostensibly caucuses with us), and we do good things for the country.

We get a Democratic president and Republican control of either house of Congress, and nothing at all gets done while the Republicans work to impeach the president to the exclusion of all else.

We get a Republican president and a Democratic Congress, and the Republican president vetoes EVERYTHING then complains Congress is impossible to work with.

Or we get a Republican president and a Republican Congress, and they proceed to run the country into the ground.

 

Leme

(1,092 posts)
21. the monied part of the GOP will be quite happy with Hillary and this
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 05:47 PM
Jun 2014
We get a Democratic president and Republican control of either house of Congress, and nothing at all gets done while the Republicans work to impeach the president to the exclusion of all else.
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Hillary would be an ok Democrat for them ( if no Republican wins)

spanone

(135,823 posts)
6. they won't cooperate with any democrat. doesn't matter race, creed, sex, religion. period.
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 05:04 PM
Jun 2014

those days are gone.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
8. Nope.
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 05:07 PM
Jun 2014

They impeached her husband, and he's pretty white and very male. The Republican party are terrorists, and should be labeled as such.

bluesbassman

(19,370 posts)
9. They won't because it's their nature...
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 05:18 PM
Jun 2014

Just substitute republican for the scorpion, Democrat for the frog, and Halls of Congress for the stream, and there you have it.

A scorpion and a frog meet on the bank of a stream and the scorpion asks the frog to carry him across on its back. The frog asks, "How do I know you won't sting me?" The scorpion says, "Because if I do, I will die too."

The frog is satisfied, and they set out, but in midstream, the scorpion stings the frog. The frog feels the onset of paralysis and starts to sink, knowing they both will drown, but has just enough time to gasp "Why?"

Replies the scorpion: "Its my nature..."
 

Chucky-Doll

(21 posts)
17. Maybe not.
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 05:26 PM
Jun 2014

But, President Obama will probably be a better president than Hillary Clinton. According to presidential historians, he's already a better president than her husband was.

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
28. ^^^ this ^^^
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 10:51 PM
Jun 2014

She has spent decades dealing with the RW smear machine. I have my issues with her, but I don't think she'll make the mistake that both her husband and Pres Obama made in assuming that Republicans ever act in good faith or would be willing to work with her on anything.

JI7

(89,247 posts)
15. depends, but she has more white support than Obama so those voters
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 05:25 PM
Jun 2014

would be more likely to be upset and hold it against republicans .

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
18. Would the GOP cooperate with ANY Democrat?
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 05:28 PM
Jun 2014

Are you suggesting the GOP would be more cooperative if Joe Biden or Harry Reid was President?

 

Chucky-Doll

(21 posts)
19. Yes, and No.
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 05:32 PM
Jun 2014

The republicans won't work with any democrat, but a woman will be treated with kid-gloves compared to the way President Obama has been treated. Before the 2008 vice-presidential debate, everybody was saying Joe Biden had to go easy on $arah Palin just because she was a woman. At first, most people were afraid to criticize $arah Palin, until SNL made it o.k.

People felt sorry for Hillary Clinton when republican senate candidate, Rick Lazio, invaded her personal space during a debate, when he tried to get her to sign some agreement. Rick Lazio was called a chauvinistic bully. Hillary Clinton's poll numbers among women voters began soar after that incident. If republicans are too mean to a woman, people will feel sorry for her, and her poll numbers will go up, which might cause republicans to back off. At least, a little bit.

People will sympathize more with a woman (especially a white woman) being bullied, more than they will sympathize with a black man who is being bullied.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
22. Why does anyone think they will cooperate with ANY DEMOCRAT? Why DID anyone think
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 05:50 PM
Jun 2014

they could work with them and not just go do what the majority of the people elected them to do? Did ANYONE actually think they could get cooperation on major issues from Republicans?

It is frustrating that years were wasted, see the ACA eg, catering to them, ONE in particular, when it was clear that the game is, was and always will be, NOT to cooperate with ANY DEMOCRAT.

Which is why Congressional races are far more important than the WH race.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
27. I have long wondered about this. The war on women includes Hillary. She has been through this
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 10:36 PM
Jun 2014

fight once when they were attacking her and her husband during his presidency so I am sure she is expecting it. However, I think they will fight anyone who is a Democrat. It is the culture they are fighting against.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
30. I will answer that question as honestly as I can.
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 10:55 AM
Jun 2014

Because Hillary will be tougher to deal with than Barack Obama has been.

There, I said it. My honest opinion. She'll push back in ways that Obama has chosen not to do. This is not an attack on President Obama. They are simply different personalities with different approaches.

Hillary is more politically savvy in my opinion because of all of the time she's spent as Bill's wife AND as Senator and Secretary of State. If she happens to become President, she will have had more political experience than Obama and she'll use it.

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