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RandySF

(58,464 posts)
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 08:54 PM Jun 2014

How Dems plotted Cantor's demise.

Former congressman Ben Jones (D-Ga.), better known as "Cooter" from Dukes of Hazzard, has a plan to knock Eric Cantor out of the House. He's urging his fellow Democrats to cross over and vote for a tea party-backed candidate in Virginia's primary election.

Cooter, who ran against Cantor in 2002, has penned an open letter calling upon Democrats in his former Virginia district to vote in the open primary next Tuesday for tea party opponent Dave Brat in order to defeat U.S. House Majority Leader Cantor.

Crossing party lines to vote in an open primary has a long tradition in the solidly one-party South, Cooter argues in his letter. "y voting for David Brat in the Seventh District Republican primary, we Democrats, independents, and Libertarians can make a big difference in American politics," he argues. "It is your right to cast that vote. It is an 'open' primary and it doesn’t preclude anyone from voting anyway they wish in November. It may be the only way to empower those who want to make a statement about the dysfunctional Congress and 'politics as usual.'"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/06/ben-cooter-jones_n_5463196.html

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How Dems plotted Cantor's demise. (Original Post) RandySF Jun 2014 OP
Do the dems have the votes to defeat the terrorist in November? randys1 Jun 2014 #1
They had enough to vote in Terry McAuliffe. Cantor has hurt Virginians. GOTV, Democrats! freshwest Jun 2014 #57
The Governor race was state wide, this race is only the 7th district which Bandit Jun 2014 #70
57% of the people in this district cant wait to vote against their own literal survival randys1 Jun 2014 #74
I disagree with the 'vote against their own survival' meme. That was true decades ago, not now. freshwest Jun 2014 #78
You are talking about the ones with money, who can survive, but surely half or more who will randys1 Jun 2014 #79
I speak from dealing locally with these guys. They are at every planning and advocacy meeting. freshwest Jun 2014 #81
No, there are poor and working class Republicans who will always vote against thier interests. TeamPooka Jun 2014 #80
Money is pouring in and those students may hear about this and vote! freshwest Jun 2014 #77
Kick warrior1 Jun 2014 #2
12 years--yeah, the Cooter revenge dish has been served...cold. TwilightGardener Jun 2014 #3
Mismatched pop culture references! Don't cross the streams! JHB Jun 2014 #34
VEry Cold and very Best! Cha Jun 2014 #64
"Just some good ole boys, never meanin no harm..."-nt Anansi1171 Jun 2014 #4
I wonder if THAT is the reason Cantor lost, instead of what the media is saying? napi21 Jun 2014 #5
More bullshit from Bullshit Mountain is what that is. Fred Sanders Jun 2014 #10
That's why he lost.....when the numbers come in, the VA legislature is going to consider closed msanthrope Jun 2014 #14
Not up to the legislature. Each party in VA can run it however they choose. FSogol Jun 2014 #21
State election code decides primary status: joshcryer Jun 2014 #51
Click on Virginia. It says the same thing I said. FSogol Jun 2014 #65
My point is that the state can change it at any time. joshcryer Jun 2014 #66
Fsogol is correct--we do not register by party in Virginia emsimon33 Jun 2014 #62
Like I indicated...I think the VA legislature is going to be taking a close loook at this one. nt msanthrope Jun 2014 #68
Doubtful. VA's legislation could be the model for the Do-Nothing-Congress. FSogol Jun 2014 #71
If true, it's hilarious C_U_L8R Jun 2014 #6
Open primary. That explains a lot. Rinse and repeat, then we take on the Tpots eye to eye. Fred Sanders Jun 2014 #7
They might regret it if this even more extreme right winger wins in this Rethug district. n/t pnwmom Jun 2014 #8
Republicans ARE the tea party now, might as well have those weaklings around in elections. Fred Sanders Jun 2014 #11
Exactly. The teabillification of the Republican party is complete. SunSeeker Jun 2014 #41
No, not at all complete. Lots more blood on the floor before the general election. Fred Sanders Jun 2014 #44
There are no "moderate" Republicans left. SunSeeker Jun 2014 #48
I've never believed there was a difference except what the media spins. freshwest Jun 2014 #61
Yup. They're all the same, just different hats. SunSeeker Jun 2014 #63
But he won't be House Majority Leader EEO Jun 2014 #32
Thanks Cooter....its a great night! VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #9
I thought the dems didn't even put up a candidate WhiteTara Jun 2014 #12
The Virginia Democratic has a candidate I don't know his name warrior1 Jun 2014 #15
Jack Trammel, I believe. MH1 Jun 2014 #20
MSNBC says he is also a college professor dragonlady Jun 2014 #25
I am loving Jack Trammell!!! SunSeeker Jun 2014 #42
+1 n/t FSogol Jun 2014 #69
Let's get on board and see if we can flip this district. MineralMan Jun 2014 #73
I checked out his books on Amazon. "Math History" looks very cool. MH1 Jun 2014 #75
.... DeSwiss Jun 2014 #35
The open primary worked in our favor and I am happy about that. But I am not a fan of the rhett o rick Jun 2014 #13
Me either. countryjake Jun 2014 #18
I agree joc46224 Jun 2014 #23
Oh please.... RichGirl Jun 2014 #45
Well, OK. Cheviteau Jun 2014 #33
Don't get me wrong...I'm relishing Cantor's defeat. countryjake Jun 2014 #40
In Virginia.... RichGirl Jun 2014 #49
I'm ambivalent. It makes party organizing more difficult eridani Jun 2014 #19
What about unaffiliated people? They don't get to vote in primaries. joshcryer Jun 2014 #47
No party affliation in VA RichGirl Jun 2014 #54
Right, it's an open primary. joshcryer Jun 2014 #55
Here in NC, they register as Independent Jamastiene Jun 2014 #60
In closed primary states that's not how it works. joshcryer Jun 2014 #67
What's better is the non-partisan blanket primary eallen Jun 2014 #52
Pass a hooter to Cooter. TexasTowelie Jun 2014 #16
When it comes to Republicans yallerdawg Jun 2014 #17
Interesting theory. W_HAMILTON Jun 2014 #22
If it is true, they killed immigration reform in the process Lee-Lee Jun 2014 #24
Didn't have it anyway. HooptieWagon Jun 2014 #27
Thanks RandySF savalez Jun 2014 #26
Good ol boy rug Jun 2014 #28
Oh well ..... republicans crossed over to vote for Hillary in the 2008 primary Botany Jun 2014 #29
Wishful thinking. The Dems had zero to do with Cantor losing. Trust Buster Jun 2014 #30
When Ben Jones lost to Newt he said, "Fuck him and the horse he rode in on.".... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2014 #31
Which one? -nt Liberal Veteran Jun 2014 #38
Divide and conquer ... czarjak Jun 2014 #36
Have also heard smallcat88 Jun 2014 #37
Me too Liberalynn Jun 2014 #43
I like seeing Cantor fall, but this seems like a dangerous game. morningfog Jun 2014 #39
It's an incredibly dangerous, immoral game that we celebrate because we won. Gravitycollapse Jun 2014 #53
I don't agree. Cantor was a tea bagger B Calm Jun 2014 #72
But he lost because he wasn't right wing enough! joshcryer Jun 2014 #46
The Dems need to make the Teabaggers Politicalboi Jun 2014 #50
yippee. another loony teabagger in congress Doctor_J Jun 2014 #56
This is an absurd spin. Skip Intro Jun 2014 #58
The Republican Party was created to destroy the racist South The Second Stone Jun 2014 #59
so in other words DonCoquixote Jun 2014 #76

randys1

(16,286 posts)
1. Do the dems have the votes to defeat the terrorist in November?
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 08:56 PM
Jun 2014

i call all teaparty people terrorists, just so you know

Bandit

(21,475 posts)
70. The Governor race was state wide, this race is only the 7th district which
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 08:31 AM
Jun 2014

is 57% Republican so it will be quite the up hill battle but doesn't mean it can't happen, just highly unlikely. Both candidates are teachers from the same college and according to student grading of teachers, the Democrat is far more liked than the Republican. Wouldn't it be a kick in the ass if Democrats were to pick up this seat?

randys1

(16,286 posts)
74. 57% of the people in this district cant wait to vote against their own literal survival
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 09:35 AM
Jun 2014

which is the bigger problem this country faces

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
78. I disagree with the 'vote against their own survival' meme. That was true decades ago, not now.
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 02:14 PM
Jun 2014

They live in a parallel society, socially and economically. They are not dependent on government in any way they recognize; if they'd been hurt by the shutdown, sequester or the cuts they'd have changed their minds.

That Democrats saved the ones on Social Security, VA and other programs over the years as a matter of principle, is lost on them. They want the poor to FOAD so there is more for them. Zero sum game fo them.

They'll make it through the economic benefits to them of discimination and exclusion. And the systems of patronage, nepotism, cronyism and family ties which they put into place when they get into power.

The guy who was blatantly bought off to leave his place in the legislature for financial gain for himself and his family is a prime example of that. We hate this but they thrive on it just as all the grifter GOP.

I've observed them for a long time, and it's why they're for privatization of everything to profit themselves and hide behind their ideology. They are ecstatic any time an honest public venture fails and utterly shameless about the money they rake from others.

At the same time, extremely hostile to losing the money or the social position they are able to inhabit stealing from others. They are arrogant and disruptive as they seek to keep their privileges. And if all else fails, they play their God Card.

Just sayin'

randys1

(16,286 posts)
79. You are talking about the ones with money, who can survive, but surely half or more who will
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 02:16 PM
Jun 2014

vote for the American Taliban terrorist, are lower middle class to poor and they are then absolutely voting to kill themselves.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
81. I speak from dealing locally with these guys. They are at every planning and advocacy meeting.
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 02:51 PM
Jun 2014

They are not wealthy, they are barely getting by until they hit the gold mine of public dollars and even then, they see it as a temporary steal for them and it's why they also are against paying any taxes. It's hard scrabble in their minds. They are leading in the last frontier to their minds in terms of their economic opportunity.

Having dealt with them there and in the state legislature, they can be quite vicious to the public sector and the party of governance, the Democrats and anyone who dares stand up for a just social order.

For them, privatization is their means of survival. The GOP promises them that and they keep their promises as a matter of principle. Any cut to government they get, keeps them in the middle class or the working class.

In general, they less educated and they can't get that kind of money by merit and going through civil service exams. So they make associations to have any work at all. I repeat, they are NOT wealthy.

They are scrambling to survive and see themselves as the eternal victim of Democratic elites who put people into power and into jobs who are more qualified than them, that they can't compete with. They resent it highly.

And as I said, discrimination and exclusion are to their economic advantage. It's not just about feelings, it's about money and they've built up horizontal associations that now rival vertical ones.

I'm not disagreeing with your own experiences dealing with these people face to face. This has been my experience and they are intractable. Media punditry, churches and ALEC have given them rhetorical tactics to use against us.

When facts are presented to appeal to reason, they see it as the establishment telling them no again and act up. They will deny access to any opposing voices, literally shut the door in their faces or pack courts and hearing rooms with any person they can give lunch money to keep them speaking.

That failing, if one gets in the door they shout them down, and pushing and shoving does indeed occur. When they elect 'their' man or woman to office they are all for themselves, and no one else need apply.

YMMV.

TeamPooka

(24,205 posts)
80. No, there are poor and working class Republicans who will always vote against thier interests.
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 02:20 PM
Jun 2014

You describe the Elite 1% of the party and country.

JHB

(37,154 posts)
34. Mismatched pop culture references! Don't cross the streams!
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 10:28 PM
Jun 2014

Crossing the streams would be bad. Them Duke boys would just jump 'em anyway.

napi21

(45,806 posts)
5. I wonder if THAT is the reason Cantor lost, instead of what the media is saying?
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 08:59 PM
Jun 2014

They're claiming that he lost because his dist. is so totally opposed to any immigration reform and Cantor talked as if he was open to some deal.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
14. That's why he lost.....when the numbers come in, the VA legislature is going to consider closed
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 09:04 PM
Jun 2014

primaries.

FSogol

(45,446 posts)
21. Not up to the legislature. Each party in VA can run it however they choose.
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 09:23 PM
Jun 2014

You also don't register for a party when you register to vote in VA. You can attend any caucus or primary. The GOP used to try to get you to sign loyalty pledges since they were always afraid of Democrats voting in their primaries.

I doubt many Democrats voted for Brat. Tomorrow, the GOP will be crying that the Democrats did it.

FSogol

(45,446 posts)
65. Click on Virginia. It says the same thing I said.
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 07:01 AM
Jun 2014

In the 80s and early 90s, VA had Democratic caucuses which helped the establishment Democrats. The GOP had primaries. Now the Democrats have primaries and the GOP flip flops between the 2 systems. VA has always had open primaries since you do not register by affiliation in this Commonwealth.

joshcryer

(62,265 posts)
66. My point is that the state can change it at any time.
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 08:04 AM
Jun 2014

And this result is likely to force them to reconsider. I don't think that the electoral code is at a constitutional level here. It's up to the legislature.

emsimon33

(3,128 posts)
62. Fsogol is correct--we do not register by party in Virginia
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 03:36 AM
Jun 2014

It makes for a lot of fun trying to contact the base at times but other times it works to our advantage. I would not be surprised if that is what actually happened--Democrats came out to vote and voted for Brat to screw Cantor. One hint at this is that the numbers voting were much higher than would be expected when there was no challenger in the primary for the Democratic position on the ballot. Another hint is that areas of the gerrymandered district that would have been expected to go for Cantor because they are more moderate voted for Brat. I am still chuckling. If the Democrats get organized in the 7th, they can probably defeat Brat!

I think that the media is remiss in not pointing this out as not registering a party affiliation when registering to vote is an anomaly.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
68. Like I indicated...I think the VA legislature is going to be taking a close loook at this one. nt
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 08:19 AM
Jun 2014

FSogol

(45,446 posts)
71. Doubtful. VA's legislation could be the model for the Do-Nothing-Congress.
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 08:35 AM
Jun 2014

As for Democrats voting for Brat, I don't really believe they did in any great numbers (Remember VA doesn't register by party, so there is no way to tell). Cantor's constituents can't help, but notice that he never supported anything and introduced almost no legislation. Voting "no" on everything isn't the way to government even for the crowd that thinks they want smaller government. Combine that with Cantor's hubris of not bothering to campaign and you have a big loss.

Trammell has his work cut out for him, but has a serious chance to pull off a win.

C_U_L8R

(44,986 posts)
6. If true, it's hilarious
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 08:59 PM
Jun 2014

It would be sweet punking to see all these gyrating pundits pontificating on rising tea party power be proven so wrong.

SunSeeker

(51,508 posts)
48. There are no "moderate" Republicans left.
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 11:27 PM
Jun 2014

Even the old guard has taken on the positions of the Tea Party assholes---I see no difference between them at this point except electability.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
61. I've never believed there was a difference except what the media spins.
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 03:30 AM
Jun 2014

The GOP is against everything Democrats cherish, and the Teaterrorists are their spawn. They may call them their bad kids but they simply showthe public what the family was really about, as is frequently the case in some families.

The GOP old guard whines as if they're not behaving, but they are the less patrician model, without the toga and fancy language. That is my best assessment of the old GOP vs. the new GOP or Teaterrorists.

My worst assessment is that the old guard has gotten so greedy and arrogant they groomed the Teaterrorists to act as their shock troops, brownshirts, etc. to intimidate Americans who opposed them - who can forget what the Teaterrrorists did over the ACA under the umbrellla of the GOp. On another level, they play good cop bad cop to appear reasonable. But they want the same things.

The TeaParty, etc. didn't exist during the Clinton year, but their cultural roots go back to the Birchers, Robertson and Reed. What they did when the got majority was what they were dying to do since the days of FDR, Truman and Ike.

When people claim that old guys were moderate, I think they are buying what they have selling since Nixon. It's hard not to do so, it's been shoved in our faces for years. But it is an idle hope that one can reason with extortionists and killers to save a few lives.

They know us and our values. We are more the party of letting the guilty go to save those who are innocent, and we know what democratic process is. We know if we don't go through the process, the government is destroyed. The GOP wants that anyway, so they will push the limits no matter how insane.

They GOP call it a weakness and they are the source of the weak and spineless Democrat that is really their meme. They have also convinced a lot of people that the strong man, authoritarian leadership that Democrats won't fall for, is a fault, but really, compromise is democratic with a 'little d.'

They disrespect us the same as did the Third Reich. They only indulge in eaceful negotiation until they can make war. They only acted reasonable when they were faced with solid Democratic majorities of any stripe.

Nixon and Reagan had to deal with the Democratic majority who were, going to toss Nixon out on his ass. But he resigned and the Constitution allowed Ford to pardon him. There was nothing to be done legally, the country had to move on. But it wasn't good enough for them, so they made war by stealth. Then the Democrats were going to bring down Reagan with Iran Contra, but by then they'd got so much of media under their control it was impossible. .

We have to remember that the GOP hadn't held majority since the New Deal. After Gingrich got in they have held the cards and then, they controlled both houses of Congress and the Presidency, we saw what they did with the power majority granted them in the Bush era.

They invented the TP brand as a product line when the voters got sick of them. I see nothing different about their basic philosophy, just that they are much more obvious with what the heart (?) of the GOP is.

Sorry, there's a lot of redundacy there and I'm too tired to edit. Have a good evening.

JMHO.

MH1

(17,573 posts)
20. Jack Trammel, I believe.
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 09:18 PM
Jun 2014

I hope he's a decent candidate and has a chance, but it is a very conservative district, according to the talking heads.

MineralMan

(146,254 posts)
73. Let's get on board and see if we can flip this district.
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 09:24 AM
Jun 2014

We can give Trammell support and the local Democrats can do a grassroots GOTV campaign to get every Democrat out to the polls in November. He might not win, but we should give it the old college try.

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
35. ....
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 10:43 PM
Jun 2014

Randolph-Macon College Professor Jack Trammell, the Democrat who secured the nomination in the district held by the newly defeated House Minority Leader Eric Cantor (R-VA), released a statement Tuesday that said Virginians are "hungry for radical change" after "dysfunctional and reckless politics."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014823138

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
13. The open primary worked in our favor and I am happy about that. But I am not a fan of the
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 09:04 PM
Jun 2014

open primary.

countryjake

(8,554 posts)
18. Me either.
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 09:09 PM
Jun 2014

And I sure hope that's not what happened here.

I wouldn't cross-over like that if my ass was on fire. Stooping to the level of a rethug is too low, down and dirty.

joc46224

(62 posts)
23. I agree
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 09:27 PM
Jun 2014

Sounds naive probably but it sure seems that whenever you do something a bit shady or dishonest it usually backfires. I realize that the rules for an Open Primary allow for crossovers likes this, and also that the Republicans would do this to a Dem candidate in a heartbeat--but it still makes me uneasy. Call it Karma, whatever.

RichGirl

(4,119 posts)
45. Oh please....
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 11:23 PM
Jun 2014

Politics IS shady. Look at all the politicians getting rich taking money from lobbyist and they get re-elected every year...when is their karma gonna come due!

Politics is a game...why shouldn't voters be able to play too???

Cheviteau

(383 posts)
33. Well, OK.
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 10:28 PM
Jun 2014

But...I'm not as fastidious as you. I've heard all the ranting about I need to hear from Cantor about how hungry kids are ruining this country. Screw him and anyone associated with his sorry ass.

countryjake

(8,554 posts)
40. Don't get me wrong...I'm relishing Cantor's defeat.
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 11:11 PM
Jun 2014

But voting in someone else's primary just goes against my grain.

See here, where I attempted to reassure another poster who was having misgivings about his loss:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5078467

RichGirl

(4,119 posts)
49. In Virginia....
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 11:27 PM
Jun 2014

Your voter registration doesn't have party affiliation. In an election, everyone is allowed to vote in their own best interest.

eridani

(51,907 posts)
19. I'm ambivalent. It makes party organizing more difficult
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 09:14 PM
Jun 2014

On the other hand, when WA still had open primaries, I voted for McCain in the 2000 primary just to vote against Bush. (Gore and Bradley were both acceptable to me, though I wasn't really wild about either.)

RichGirl

(4,119 posts)
54. No party affliation in VA
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 11:32 PM
Jun 2014

Virginia isn't strongly partisan. That's why a red state elected Obama twice. They tend to vote for the man, not the party.

In an election that covers a lot of candidates it's not uncommon for someone to vote....for example...the democratic president and the republican senator.

joshcryer

(62,265 posts)
55. Right, it's an open primary.
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 11:35 PM
Jun 2014

In states with closed primaries only those who are members of a party can vote for that parties candidates. Semi-Closed primaries do allow for unaffiliated citizens to vote in a parties primaries, however, while disallowing cross party voting. Open primaries allow anyone from any party to vote for whoever.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
60. Here in NC, they register as Independent
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 03:21 AM
Jun 2014

and can vote in whichever primary they want. Also, if you register Democratic Party, you vote in the Democratic Party primaries and Republicans vote in Republican primaries.

I've never heard of open primaries before this. Sounds like it is something the wrong people could use the wrong way, namely right wingers. I don't trust them as far as I can throw them.

joshcryer

(62,265 posts)
67. In closed primary states that's not how it works.
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 08:08 AM
Jun 2014

You either vote for your party or not.

Open primaries can be "gamed" by either side, so I'd more advocate semi-closed primaries, where unaffiliated or independents are allowed to vote on a given parties primaries. But fully open is truly democratic because it allows anyone and everyone to vote however. It's kind of weird, but exclusive primaries are sort of undemocratic to me.

TexasTowelie

(111,928 posts)
16. Pass a hooter to Cooter.
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 09:06 PM
Jun 2014

It's great he got involved. Now we need to make sure that Brat loses in the general election.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
17. When it comes to Republicans
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 09:07 PM
Jun 2014

better the devil you don't know than the devil you do!

And that Cantor was a mighty bad devil!

W_HAMILTON

(7,835 posts)
22. Interesting theory.
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 09:25 PM
Jun 2014

The votes haven't been fully counted yet and already there are over 17,000 more votes cast in the 2014 primary than in the 2012 primary, resulting in an increase of almost 40%.

You can find the 2012 numbers here: https://www.voterinfo.sbe.virginia.gov/election/DATA/2012/A2E23EAB-7EA6-40E2-AF41-3CE22C787EA4/Official/6_s.shtml

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
31. When Ben Jones lost to Newt he said, "Fuck him and the horse he rode in on."....
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 10:15 PM
Jun 2014

At the time some thought he was talking about Newt's wife.

smallcat88

(426 posts)
37. Have also heard
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 10:59 PM
Jun 2014

some speculation in the media that all the Republican gerrymandering hurt Cantor. Great if true! Would love to see that come back to bite them in the ass!

Gravitycollapse

(8,155 posts)
53. It's an incredibly dangerous, immoral game that we celebrate because we won.
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 11:32 PM
Jun 2014

I don't remember the celebration of such a tactic when it was Limbaugh's Operation Chaos.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
50. The Dems need to make the Teabaggers
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 11:28 PM
Jun 2014

Use T or TP on the ballot. They claim to not be the GOP, but they ride the coattails. One would think the GOP would want this, and push it. Do it so there won't be time for them to correct it. LOL!

 

The Second Stone

(2,900 posts)
59. The Republican Party was created to destroy the racist South
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 01:53 AM
Jun 2014

and to keep power the Republicans joined them. Now the South is taking its revenge and will destroy the Republican Party.

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