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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI don't think we should be celebrating the defeat of right-wing candidates by extreme right-wing
candidates in the primaries. Most of them are in solid Republican gerrymandered districts, and they are very likely to win in the General.
This is the scariest part about the gerrymandered districts: they give absolute loony tunes a real shot at winning.
This is unlikely to end well.
randys1
(16,286 posts)is frightening
These are without a doubt the worst people america has ever produced, the country is under attack
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)Pryor, Hagen, Begich, Walsh, Landrieu, as well as Grimes and Nunn.
Lindsay Graham is a bastard, no question. He is still better than the five Jobbik (neo-nazis in Hungary) kooks running against him.
gwheezie
(3,580 posts)Because this is going to be very tough
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)all we can do is turn out in the midterms....their electorate is afraid of their radicals...hell they are cop killers now too....
Xipe Totec
(43,888 posts)VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)that's the genius part of the plan! They have now supressed their own vote!
pnwmom
(108,959 posts)by crossing over to vote as Rethug in the primary.
I hope no Democrat really did that. As bad as Cantor was, Brat is worse.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)AlinPA
(15,071 posts)crazed teabaggers.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)one else right of centre, Democrat, in the general area Cantor occupied could well win.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)getting passed that supported Obama's agenda?
Benton D Struckcheon
(2,347 posts)Seriously. You get enough of these looney toons in there who have no idea what it means to actually default and that's it - game over.
We're already functioning on the political equivalent of the autonomic nervous system. These folks would even shut that down.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)We had two Democrats vote No on the debt too btw.
Benton D Struckcheon
(2,347 posts)Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)Benton D Struckcheon
(2,347 posts)We're already very close to being totally ungovernable. A few more of these and we'd be there. Then what?
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,610 posts)Cantor had. He'll be just another freshman congresscritter with crap committee assignments. Getting rid of Cantor is a big deal because he had power on top of being an arrogant dick.
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)Cantor was fixin' to be the next Speaker!
Now they are in disarray!
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Skidmore
(37,364 posts)AlinPA
(15,071 posts)(if Boehner ever lets anything reasonable come to a vote), and will just vomit out the teabagger lines like the idiot Gohmert.
Cha
(296,872 posts)seeing sociopathic eric cantor's smug smirk when he was saying "NO".
dballance
(5,756 posts)We must defeat their far right-wing nuts.
ChiciB1
(15,435 posts)Seeing posts of everyone whooping it up, I think it's scary crazy!
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)We cannot stop people from voting for them.....all we can do is hope that the ones they choose are easy pickings. The most radical are too stupid not to think their views are popular. They only got elected because only the most radical turn out to vote for them now......not being able to appear even the least bit self aware....works in our favor!
FSogol
(45,452 posts)VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Rand Paul and Paul Ryan!
Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)There are some districts and states in which a Tea Partier triumph in the primary gives the Democrat a fighting chance in the general. There are other elections, however, in which a Tea Partier triumph in the primary just puts another loon in office.
Ted Cruz won his primary against a less conservative, more "establishment" Republican, who was denounced as a RINO by the same RWNJ's who hurled that epithet at Cantor. The bright side is that Cruz has probably made the Republican Party look bad to a few independents outside Texas, and thus made them more likely to vote for Democrats. Overall, though, I think the country would be better off if that other Republican were in the Senate instead of Cruz.
roamer65
(36,744 posts)...this result shows just how fascist the Rethug party has become. Not a good thing at all.
FSogol
(45,452 posts)The Democrats now have a chance of winning that seat.
GOTV.
* tool in both senses of the word.
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)comparison to Cantor's power in Washington.
Cha
(296,872 posts)democrat2thecore
(3,572 posts)This district is not going blue, it's just not. I hate it, but that's just the truth. No way should we celebrate this victory by Brat. Cantor at least knew how to compromise and work with Democrats at times. This teabagger is a nut who thinks that's some kind of treason. We lost someone we disagree with, but get someone who truly views us as ENEMIES. That's the Tea Party difference. Disgusting. I'm sorry for Rep. Cantor, frankly. The far-right types should frighten us. POLICY makes all the difference. Don't cheer the POLITICS of Cantor losing. Mourn the fact that one more far-right nut is going to put their stamp on America.
savalez
(3,517 posts)He's gone now.
Maybe Boehner will bow out of the speakership now.
Brat will just be a loudmouth with no real power.
Rejoice!
democrat2thecore
(3,572 posts)Be careful what we wish for. The next Speaker will not be Eric Cantor, which was pretty much a shoe-in. Now, who will it be? Count on them being further to the right than Cantor. Bank on it.
savalez
(3,517 posts)I don't see how going farther to the right will benefit them in a general election.
GoCubsGo
(32,075 posts)Someone else will get that job come January. Sure, it will likely be some other asshole, barring a Democratic takeover of Congress. But, it's not going to be that teabagger who is replacing him. And, we won't have to see his bitch face any longer.
MrScorpio
(73,630 posts)Virginia is really purple, I mean really, really purple. If a Dem plays this right, we can get it.
VA Teabaggerati pols are usually extreme fucking nut cases, most folks in that state have way too much sense to elect one in a general.
I think that our chances are good here. With Cantor gone, the job is halfway done.
pnwmom
(108,959 posts)WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)That may change, but they are systematically reaming out the far-right GOP, replacing it with an exquisite extreme-ness. Clearly, they have the grass roots, enough $, and communications that what remains of the "Left" can only hope for. I expect the Democratic Party will remain center-right, hoping in its passivity that the far right will fuck up. And it will continue its squeeze out if any views to the left of the Big Dawg. This has been going on for some time, now.
The problem, however, isn't the power of the far right. The problem is there is no meaningful opposition. That, too, has been going on for some time.
Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)look at it this way: the result removes Cantor and replaces him with a freshman representative with no seniority or influence in Congress who is unlikely to be popular with the leadership and at worst may turn out to be an embarrassment like Allen West who'll lose at the next primary.
ljm2002
(10,751 posts)...I'm celebrating. The end.
AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)We cannot change our leaders.
We are doomed.
Puzzledtraveller
(5,937 posts)and an indicator that the right will gotv, now, will we?
spanone
(135,795 posts)some scary shit
jeff47
(26,549 posts)Cantor had the ability to decide what bills come up for a vote. He had the back-room deal support to steer the House. Thus he had the ability to affect national policy.
Brat, if he wins, will be a very junior rep with no power and (at least for now) nowhere near enough allies to make any backroom deals. He will have no ability to affect national policy beyond being 1 of 435 votes.
And while it's a very Republican-leaning district, turning the district blue went from utterly impossible to might happen. Nobody's really dug that hard into Brat's past, and he's pretty damn crazy. That may allow the Democrat to pull in some Republican votes. It's at least better than a guaranteed Cantor win.