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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forumswhy are we cheering the loss of incompetent republican leaders?
do we really want republican leaders in the house to be more competent?
the real problem in the house has long been too many tea baggers and we might just have made that number go up by one.
i have a feeling that this may be one of those feels-good-but-comes-back-to-bite-us moments....
The Magistrate
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(52,196 posts)HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)And a freshman rep isn't going to have the influence that Cantor did.
elleng
(130,864 posts)but your point is well made, and they won't be competent, but more disagreeable.
The startling defeat today of House Majority Leader Eric Cantor by Dave Brat, a little-known economics professor, in Virginia's Republican primary, is a lesson in just how extreme the GOP base has become. Brat, the tea party favorite, had repeatedly attacked Cantor for supporting amnesty for undocumented immigrants. The lesson wont be lost on congressional Republicans. You can kiss immigration reform goodbye, for one thing. And expect the GOP to move even further rightward. Even if this is good for Democrats in the upcoming midterms and 2016, its bad for America. Working-class whites on a downward economic escalator are easy prey for demagogues blaming immigrants, the poor, African-Americans, and the U.S. government. The real fault lies in an economic system that's no longer working for most people. Unless or until prosperity is more widely shared, we can expect more of this.
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dhol82
(9,352 posts)just as a question.
at least he goes down a step or two in the level of access to the upper levels.
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(52,196 posts)anyone know who is likely to succeed him?
Laelth
(32,017 posts)But it should be Kevin McCarthy.
-Laelth
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(52,196 posts)Ruby the Liberal
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(52,196 posts)and it may not be so much a matter of individual competence so much the next majority leader might work better with the speaker.
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)lostincalifornia
(3,639 posts)Repuke party is divided as hell, and that doesn't hurt Democrats
AlinPA
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(52,196 posts)cantor is a traditional right-wing authoritarian nutjob who knew enough about the makeup of the house and his own district to know he needed to tow the tea party line. he just didn't do it well enough to satisfy the tea baggers.
notadmblnd
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(43,889 posts)Actually, yes.
Not that this replacement Bozo is anything resembling competence, but competent leadership, of any stripe, is better than the cesspool of chaos and irrationality that's presently and allegedly leading our country.
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(52,196 posts)Xipe Totec
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(52,196 posts)hitler was highly unreasonable but also highly competent.
i just mean that we don't want republicans capable of acting as an effective, if partisan, team, unless they are willing, at the end of the day, to make reasonable compromises with democrats for the good of the nation.
right now, i see republicans as both incompetent and unreasonable. i'd rather see improvement on the reasonability side rather than the competence side.
Xipe Totec
(43,889 posts)whttevrr
(2,345 posts)Every time I've seen Cantor talk, he seems like someone I would really want to punch in the face for being so damn snotty.
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(52,196 posts)whttevrr
(2,345 posts)But... you know...
...it's Cantor.
3catwoman3
(23,971 posts)...as long as you don't actually do it. Entirely understandable. He's creepy.
AlinPA
(15,071 posts)us all. His replacement will be another Louie Gohmert. He'll talk about Jesus and every other Hatriot issue and end up just being another no vote for everything reasonable.
Spirochete
(5,264 posts)Cantor has been such a shitbag, everyone's glad to see him go. And he had too much pull in the House. Even if the teapsycho wins, he'll be low man on the totem pole.
Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)Cantor was a cunning schemer who did actual damage to our country with his thirst for power.
This is a huge hit to the Republican Party.
onecaliberal
(32,822 posts)He would be a freshman rep. Not in leadership position, second in line to the speaker. He's a real piece of work though, I will give you that.
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(52,196 posts)onecaliberal
(32,822 posts)Bullshit we have now. Nothing gets done. The Senate isn't passing the house crazy legislation and even if they did Obama wouldn't sign.
MurrayDelph
(5,293 posts)he won't be the next Speaker of the House
7wo7rees
(5,128 posts)Won! That is the reason to celebrate. The teapartier's have come home.
This was never to have happened, ever.
This is time to gather. We can change.
Chaos for the Republican Party.
Takket
(21,558 posts)Second only to Bohner. Replacing him with a teabagger pushed the house farther right by 1 seat but Cantors powers went WAY beyond just casting votes. His loss is a big one for the GOP.