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unblock

(52,196 posts)
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 09:39 PM Jun 2014

why are we cheering the loss of incompetent republican leaders?

do we really want republican leaders in the house to be more competent?

the real problem in the house has long been too many tea baggers and we might just have made that number go up by one.


i have a feeling that this may be one of those feels-good-but-comes-back-to-bite-us moments....

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why are we cheering the loss of incompetent republican leaders? (Original Post) unblock Jun 2014 OP
The Next Ones Will Be Even Less Competent, Sir The Magistrate Jun 2014 #1
one can hope. me, when my opponents are incompetent, i'd rather not give them the chance to improve unblock Jun 2014 #6
Exactly. HooptieWagon Jun 2014 #8
We're cheering because he's such a disagreeable person, elleng Jun 2014 #2
what makes you think the bagger is competent? dhol82 Jun 2014 #3
brat will be a freshman zero. it's whoever replaces cantor as majority leader i'm worried about. unblock Jun 2014 #10
I am not certain. Laelth Jun 2014 #15
then maybe i have nothing to worry about. he's been a terrible whip. unblock Jun 2014 #20
Are you arguing that the teabaggers are 'more competent'? Ruby the Liberal Jun 2014 #4
no, the next majority leader, whoever that might be. unblock Jun 2014 #12
Gotcha. Good point. NT Ruby the Liberal Jun 2014 #17
How is this going to bite us? The majority leader just lost, and guess what it demonstrates, the lostincalifornia Jun 2014 #5
You don't think Cantor was a teabagger? He is one of their leaders. AlinPA Jun 2014 #7
if being beaten around like a pinata is leadership, sure. unblock Jun 2014 #13
Yep. And you know what else? Real baggers think Brat is a liberal too notadmblnd Jun 2014 #28
Do we really want republican leaders in the house to be more competent? Xipe Totec Jun 2014 #9
competent *and reasonable* opponents, yes. competent and unreasonable, not. unblock Jun 2014 #14
Competent and unreasonable is an oxymoron by my reckoning, but I'll grant you the point. nt Xipe Totec Jun 2014 #19
at the risk of violating godwin's law.... unblock Jun 2014 #23
He lost. Didn't he? nt Xipe Totec Jun 2014 #26
For me it is about his condescending attitude. whttevrr Jun 2014 #11
i'm not going to endorse the violent sentiment, but i won't dispute your point. unblock Jun 2014 #16
Yeah... violence is not an appropriate response to dissatisfaction... whttevrr Jun 2014 #27
Nothing wrong with feeling like that... 3catwoman3 Jun 2014 #30
Eric Cantor is the slimiest human being I have ever seen. Having him out of the public eye will help AlinPA Jun 2014 #24
Personal hatred Spirochete Jun 2014 #18
Th new guy will be another Gohmert. A big mouth do-nothing with zero power. Ikonoklast Jun 2014 #21
You think Tea Hags are competent? onecaliberal Jun 2014 #22
see above, i agree brat will be a zero; i mean the new leadership team whoever that is. unblock Jun 2014 #25
It will be more of the same onecaliberal Jun 2014 #31
While he may be another Gohmert MurrayDelph Jun 2014 #29
because someone more incompetent 7wo7rees Jun 2014 #32
Cantor was a major power broker in the house Takket Jun 2014 #33

elleng

(130,864 posts)
2. We're cheering because he's such a disagreeable person,
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 09:41 PM
Jun 2014

but your point is well made, and they won't be competent, but more disagreeable.


The startling defeat today of House Majority Leader Eric Cantor by Dave Brat, a little-known economics professor, in Virginia's Republican primary, is a lesson in just how extreme the GOP base has become. Brat, the tea party favorite, had repeatedly attacked Cantor for supporting “amnesty” for undocumented immigrants. The lesson won’t be lost on congressional Republicans. You can kiss immigration reform goodbye, for one thing. And expect the GOP to move even further rightward. Even if this is good for Democrats in the upcoming midterms and 2016, it’s bad for America. Working-class whites on a downward economic escalator are easy prey for demagogues blaming immigrants, the poor, African-Americans, and the U.S. government. The real fault lies in an economic system that's no longer working for most people. Unless or until prosperity is more widely shared, we can expect more of this.

https://www.facebook.com/RBReich?ref=stream&fref=nf

dhol82

(9,352 posts)
3. what makes you think the bagger is competent?
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 09:44 PM
Jun 2014

just as a question.

at least he goes down a step or two in the level of access to the upper levels.

unblock

(52,196 posts)
10. brat will be a freshman zero. it's whoever replaces cantor as majority leader i'm worried about.
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 09:46 PM
Jun 2014

anyone know who is likely to succeed him?

unblock

(52,196 posts)
12. no, the next majority leader, whoever that might be.
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 09:48 PM
Jun 2014

and it may not be so much a matter of individual competence so much the next majority leader might work better with the speaker.

lostincalifornia

(3,639 posts)
5. How is this going to bite us? The majority leader just lost, and guess what it demonstrates, the
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 09:44 PM
Jun 2014

Repuke party is divided as hell, and that doesn't hurt Democrats

unblock

(52,196 posts)
13. if being beaten around like a pinata is leadership, sure.
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 09:52 PM
Jun 2014

cantor is a traditional right-wing authoritarian nutjob who knew enough about the makeup of the house and his own district to know he needed to tow the tea party line. he just didn't do it well enough to satisfy the tea baggers.

Xipe Totec

(43,889 posts)
9. Do we really want republican leaders in the house to be more competent?
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 09:45 PM
Jun 2014

Actually, yes.

Not that this replacement Bozo is anything resembling competence, but competent leadership, of any stripe, is better than the cesspool of chaos and irrationality that's presently and allegedly leading our country.

unblock

(52,196 posts)
23. at the risk of violating godwin's law....
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 10:00 PM
Jun 2014

hitler was highly unreasonable but also highly competent.

i just mean that we don't want republicans capable of acting as an effective, if partisan, team, unless they are willing, at the end of the day, to make reasonable compromises with democrats for the good of the nation.

right now, i see republicans as both incompetent and unreasonable. i'd rather see improvement on the reasonability side rather than the competence side.

whttevrr

(2,345 posts)
11. For me it is about his condescending attitude.
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 09:47 PM
Jun 2014

Every time I've seen Cantor talk, he seems like someone I would really want to punch in the face for being so damn snotty.

whttevrr

(2,345 posts)
27. Yeah... violence is not an appropriate response to dissatisfaction...
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 10:05 PM
Jun 2014

But... you know...

...it's Cantor.

3catwoman3

(23,971 posts)
30. Nothing wrong with feeling like that...
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 10:12 PM
Jun 2014

...as long as you don't actually do it. Entirely understandable. He's creepy.

AlinPA

(15,071 posts)
24. Eric Cantor is the slimiest human being I have ever seen. Having him out of the public eye will help
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 10:01 PM
Jun 2014

us all. His replacement will be another Louie Gohmert. He'll talk about Jesus and every other Hatriot issue and end up just being another no vote for everything reasonable.

Spirochete

(5,264 posts)
18. Personal hatred
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 09:55 PM
Jun 2014

Cantor has been such a shitbag, everyone's glad to see him go. And he had too much pull in the House. Even if the teapsycho wins, he'll be low man on the totem pole.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
21. Th new guy will be another Gohmert. A big mouth do-nothing with zero power.
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 09:59 PM
Jun 2014

Cantor was a cunning schemer who did actual damage to our country with his thirst for power.

This is a huge hit to the Republican Party.

onecaliberal

(32,822 posts)
22. You think Tea Hags are competent?
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 09:59 PM
Jun 2014

He would be a freshman rep. Not in leadership position, second in line to the speaker. He's a real piece of work though, I will give you that.

onecaliberal

(32,822 posts)
31. It will be more of the same
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 10:16 PM
Jun 2014

Bullshit we have now. Nothing gets done. The Senate isn't passing the house crazy legislation and even if they did Obama wouldn't sign.

7wo7rees

(5,128 posts)
32. because someone more incompetent
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 10:32 PM
Jun 2014

Won! That is the reason to celebrate. The teapartier's have come home.
This was never to have happened, ever.

This is time to gather. We can change.

Chaos for the Republican Party.

Takket

(21,558 posts)
33. Cantor was a major power broker in the house
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 10:37 PM
Jun 2014

Second only to Bohner. Replacing him with a teabagger pushed the house farther right by 1 seat but Cantors powers went WAY beyond just casting votes. His loss is a big one for the GOP.

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