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underpants

(182,632 posts)
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 07:09 AM Jun 2014

You. Are. Welcome.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025074611

Down goes Cantor!!!

I got multiple texts yesterday from people I didn't even know where Dems asking if I had voted, against Cantor. Not for Brat but against Cantor.

The Brat people actually came to our door on Monday (my wife was home) while Cantor had NO ground game. None. He was at a fundraiser in DC yesterday. He didn't even make a trip to his district to get a photo op shaking hands.

Almost double the primary voting (35k to 68k) compared to the 2012 primary and that was a Presidential primary. That is not all teabaggers - as said above a lot of this was Dems in an open primary going out to vote against Cantor. It was the only race on the touchscreen where I voted.

On Edit- Universal Leaf's hand picked little sh!tstain is GONE!

Hell f'in YES!!!!!
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You. Are. Welcome. (Original Post) underpants Jun 2014 OP
So far I have not heard any discussion by the media DURHAM D Jun 2014 #1
They won't underpants Jun 2014 #2
Well done and thank you. magical thyme Jun 2014 #3
I'm hoping this is the reason for his loss hootinholler Jun 2014 #4
^ I think trouncing them in the general TBF Jun 2014 #7
Does this mean GOP establishment stood home? JaneyVee Jun 2014 #5
Turnout was double the turnout in the 2012 Presidential primary underpants Jun 2014 #9
Ah ok, so this means Republicans are getting crazier. JaneyVee Jun 2014 #18
:facepalm: jeff47 Jun 2014 #21
Y'all did good. Play to win. K&R nt TBF Jun 2014 #6
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2014 #8
A very junior tea party member will take Cantor's place. Kaleva Jun 2014 #10
Your first post on DU was this? JimDandy Jun 2014 #12
2 thumbs down. blkmusclmachine Jun 2014 #11
Not very smart, if that is what actually happened Ms. Toad Jun 2014 #13
And far less influential. Plus the intramural conflict in the GOP will heat up. riqster Jun 2014 #14
Not right away.. doxydad Jun 2014 #16
Cantor had the power to steer national policy. jeff47 Jun 2014 #22
Thank you underpants Jun 2014 #35
I really don't care what amenities he gets Ms. Toad Jun 2014 #39
Not precisely - Ms. Toad Jun 2014 #38
No, Cantor voted with the teabaggers 99% of the time. jeff47 Jun 2014 #40
Sure... Ms. Toad Jun 2014 #41
Oh please. jeff47 Jun 2014 #42
K&R B Calm Jun 2014 #15
You have my thanks but is it possible Cantor didn't want to win that badly? randome Jun 2014 #17
I was thinking the same thing. He began to look like a man who doesn't like himself. nt kelliekat44 Jun 2014 #23
He looked to me like an arrogant SOB who forgot that actual people vote & that corporations catbyte Jun 2014 #29
Great job, underpants! Octafish Jun 2014 #19
Lol! Karma for Cantor! Thanks for this interesting OP!! Shows how weak the Repukes really are! hue Jun 2014 #20
Thank you, underpants! Cha Jun 2014 #24
Another lobbyist is born Pharaoh Jun 2014 #25
Please elaborate about the references to Universal Leaf and Domino's. greatlaurel Jun 2014 #26
Universal is big tobacco - Diana Cantor is on the Boards of Revlon and Dominoes underpants Jun 2014 #31
"The Brat people actually came to our door on Monday (my wife was home) while Cantor had NO ground genwah Jun 2014 #27
I think it's hilarious that he was at a fundraiser. spooky3 Jun 2014 #28
Print media at least isn't saying it was because of Dems voting. Fla Dem Jun 2014 #30
Brat became a "Tea Party favorite" last night after he won underpants Jun 2014 #32
See? This is what happens in a democracy RobertEarl Jun 2014 #33
So what is the consensus, who is happiest, Democrats or John Boehner? A Simple Game Jun 2014 #34
Wait. Help me out here. Proud Public Servant Jun 2014 #36
True, but.... underpants Jun 2014 #37

DURHAM D

(32,607 posts)
1. So far I have not heard any discussion by the media
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 07:21 AM
Jun 2014

about the crossover voting. They just seem to think the high turnout and Cantor loss was just pissed off Teabaggers.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
3. Well done and thank you.
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 07:38 AM
Jun 2014
I've been out to lunch lately with my own life, so wasn't even aware of the primary. What a pleasant gift to start my day off knowing that I won't have to that slimy weasel darkening my 'puter screen again.

hootinholler

(26,449 posts)
4. I'm hoping this is the reason for his loss
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 07:50 AM
Jun 2014

I really hope the teabaggers aren't that strong anywhere. Hopefully, the entire R party will run to the teabaggers and be trounced in the general.

TBF

(32,017 posts)
7. ^ I think trouncing them in the general
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 08:25 AM
Jun 2014

is the plan. Dems are fighting to win this year - just as they did in '08 with their caucus strategy. Maybe David Plouffe is consulting at the DNC?

This makes me a lot more optimistic about November.

Response to underpants (Original post)

doxydad

(1,363 posts)
16. Not right away..
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 09:08 AM
Jun 2014

Junior Reps have to climb the ladder and at the current rate of States turning Purple, I don't see any rush to place the teabagger replacement anywhere that Brat can do a ton of harm. Besides, he may get his ass handed to him come November.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
22. Cantor had the power to steer national policy.
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 09:44 AM
Jun 2014

Brat, if he wins, will be one vote of 435. He won't have the power to steer national policy. At least for a while.

underpants

(182,632 posts)
35. Thank you
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 11:16 AM
Jun 2014

All the tenure/ranking that Cantor had just vanished. Brat will be in the back of the line in all the committees and gets the crappy office.

Ms. Toad

(34,008 posts)
39. I really don't care what amenities he gets
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 02:10 PM
Jun 2014

What I care about is increasing the number of those with tea party mentality in the house - a cadre which is already making it difficult to make any headway on a number of issues because of the power their numbers wield. Moderate progress was only made on fiscal matters when Boehner finally decided to defy them. You really think adding to their numbers will make it easier for the saner Republicans to ignore them?

Ms. Toad

(34,008 posts)
38. Not precisely -
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 02:06 PM
Jun 2014

He will add one to the tea party wing of the House, which already has enough members to make life miserable.

Ms. Toad

(34,008 posts)
41. Sure...
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 04:01 PM
Jun 2014

That's why the tea party ran a candidate against him. They didn't want to be in power, so they replaced a powerful representative with a brand new powerless one. In case I need it:

More likely, the issues where Cantor didn't vote with the tea party were the very ones where Democrats hoped to use Cantor's "leadership" to make some progress. The tea party was sending a message - cross us & we will replace you with someone who won't.

Education & a message to non Tea Party Republicans:

Second, the reports of the Tea Party’s death are…well, you know. Cantor’s loss is a huge disruption of the narrative that the Republican establishment had taken control this year. And throw in the coming Chris McDaniel-Thad Cochran runoff in the Mississippi Senate race, which many now expect Tea Partier McDaniel to win, and you have a narrative in which the Tea Party can say, “We’re still calling the shots.” Cantor also has spent the past couple of years talking about education, which, any Tea Party person knows, is code for black, city, unions. Other Republicans in the House won’t miss that message, and they won’t try to carve out any “interesting” legislative profiles for themselves.


http://www.ibtimes.com/tea-party-defeats-eric-cantor-view-its-power-was-wane-1597778

Voting Rights:

Eric Cantor's loss in the Virginia Republican primary on Tuesday night is terrible news for voting rights.

Here's why. A year ago, the Supreme Court struck down a key section of the 1965 Voting Rights Act (VRA) that required states and localities with a history of discrimination to get approval from the federal government before changing voting procedures. Since the landmark ruling, Republican lawmakers in 8 of the the 15 states that used to be covered by the VRA's voter protections have passed or enacted restrictive voting measures.

To fix this, a bipartisan group of Representatives introduced legislation earlier this year that would reinstate many of the VRA's voter protections. House majority leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.)—after trekking to Selma, Alabama on a civil rights pilgrimage—became the only member of the GOP leadership to back the bill, called the Voting Rights Amendment Act (VRAA). Now Cantor is out of the picture, and some advocates say that without his support, a voting rights fix is doomed.


http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/06/eric-cantor-voting-rights-amendment-act

Immigration:

Cantor loses primary in shocker after his support for pathway to citizenship. "House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (Va.), the chamber’s second-ranking Republican, was badly beaten in a primary contest Tuesday by an obscure professor with tea party backing — a historic electoral surprise that left the GOP in chaos....The dour and businesslike Cantor had embraced confrontation enough to alienate some establishment types....But he also had made moves that alienated the party’s confrontational wing. Cantor, for instance, had championed a Republican version of the Dream Act, which would enable some illegal immigrants who entered the country as children to qualify for in-state college tuition rates. Although he never brought the legislation to the House floor, his support for the idea irritated staunch opponents of immigration reform." Robert Costa, Laura Vozzella and David A. Fahrenthold in The Washington Post.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2014/06/11/wonkbook-cantors-stunning-loss-likely-means-immigration-reform-is-dead/

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
42. Oh please.
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 11:25 PM
Jun 2014
More likely, the issues where Cantor didn't vote with the tea party were the very ones where Democrats hoped to use Cantor's "leadership" to make some progress

Yes, the issues that Cantor abandoned a year ago when the teabaggers in Congress cut him down. Cantor, Democrats and the magic pixies were going to get them to pass!! Really!!!!

That's why the tea party ran a candidate against him. They didn't want to be in power, so they replaced a powerful representative with a brand new powerless one. In case I need it:

Because we all know that the tea party is part of the reality based community.
 

randome

(34,845 posts)
17. You have my thanks but is it possible Cantor didn't want to win that badly?
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 09:08 AM
Jun 2014

[hr][font color="blue"][center]You have to play the game to find out why you're playing the game. -Existenz[/center][/font][hr]

catbyte

(34,341 posts)
29. He looked to me like an arrogant SOB who forgot that actual people vote & that corporations
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 10:08 AM
Jun 2014

aren't actually people too my friend, so he got his ass handed to him by those actual people he chose to ignore. What congressman who cares about his district doesn't even bother to show up in that district on election day? I think he just forgot what his job actually was. I'm also sure that his cronies on K Street will give him a nice soft parachute made out of 24K gold.

I'd like to think that Cantor might have been having a crisis of conscience, but to do that one has to actually possess a conscience to begin with, which I don't think Cantor does.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
19. Great job, underpants!
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 09:13 AM
Jun 2014

Universal Leaf sh!tstain is high praise for what likely was the least stupid guy the GOP had in congreff. Wonder if his wife will stay on Domino's board?

genwah

(574 posts)
27. "The Brat people actually came to our door on Monday (my wife was home) while Cantor had NO ground
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 10:06 AM
Jun 2014

game. None."

A little something to remember for November.

Thank you. Forward!

spooky3

(34,407 posts)
28. I think it's hilarious that he was at a fundraiser.
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 10:07 AM
Jun 2014

Talk about arrogance. And where will all those funds go now?

Fla Dem

(23,593 posts)
30. Print media at least isn't saying it was because of Dems voting.
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 10:09 AM
Jun 2014

They're blaming Cantor's more "liberal" stance on immigration reform; that the base is looking for a more conservative representative. I think they have totally missed the schism this will cause in the Republican party. When you have a Teabagger vs an establishment Repub, in an open voting state, the Dems are going to go heavy on the Teabagger.

Let's hope in the general election, the "normal" conservative base will stay home rather than vote for a Teabagger and the Dems will come out strong for the Dem candidate Jack Trammel.

underpants

(182,632 posts)
32. Brat became a "Tea Party favorite" last night after he won
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 10:43 AM
Jun 2014

They both deluged the local RW talk radio station with ads and never heard anything about the tea party.

He was not endorsed by any of the local Tea Party groups (and there are a lot of then).

I don't see any mention on his website of any Tea related anything.

http://davebratforcongress.com/about-dave/

I get what you are saying but that is the Teabaggers rushing out to claim victory (which in part they should) and the media following their PR once again.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
33. See? This is what happens in a democracy
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 11:04 AM
Jun 2014

When the people are allowed to vote freely, they often get rid of the oppressive representatives.

It is a mild form of anarchy; this system. When it works as intended rulers such as this Cantor fellow are often deposed.

Just doesn't happen often enough. That's why some don't want free and open elections.

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
34. So what is the consensus, who is happiest, Democrats or John Boehner?
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 11:11 AM
Jun 2014

I assume Boehner is happy to see the backstabbing weasel's back for a change. Cantor would stab Boehner, Boehner's mother, and probably his own mother in the back if he thought it would get him Boehner's job.

If the Republican wins the general election he will not have the seniority and influence Cantor had, a plus for the Democrats even if they lose.

Any way I'm just happy to see Cantor gone, couldn't stand to see or hear him.

Proud Public Servant

(2,097 posts)
36. Wait. Help me out here.
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 12:14 PM
Jun 2014

Yes, Cantor's out. Huzzah.

However, he lost to a candidate who is farther to the right than he was in every category: an economic libertarian, a Christian conservative, and vociferous foe of ANY immigration reform. By any conceivable measure (except maybe personality), Brat will be an even more loathsome congressman than Cantor.

And make no mistake: he will be a congressman.

Now, you may think that that's okay, because he'll have very little power, while Cantor had a lot -- so overall, a good trade. Except, of course, that the House leadership as a whole will now tack even further rightward in order to avoid being Cantorized.

So yes, Cantor's gone. Huzzah. But after the initial rush of schadenfreude, it's hard to see anything here for Dems to celebrate.

underpants

(182,632 posts)
37. True, but....
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 12:54 PM
Jun 2014

Cantor drove most of the Repub agenda which now will flounder
Good analysis here
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025081280

Also immigration reform is dead. That is what the MSM is drilling in today. That means that the one we-are-not-aholes thing some if the Repubs wanted to do (and is getting more and more popular with the general public) will not happen. If it does it will be seen as coming completely from the Dems.

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