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Hugabear

(10,340 posts)
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 10:27 AM Jun 2014

What do you think when you see the "Don't Tread on Me" flag?

Whatever it used to stand for, it's clear that the extreme right-wing teabaggers in this country have adopted this as their symbol. To me, this flag is now almost as offensive as the Confederate flag.

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What do you think when you see the "Don't Tread on Me" flag? (Original Post) Hugabear Jun 2014 OP
I think right-wing cop killing terrorists! B Calm Jun 2014 #1
I definite don't think that at all yeoman6987 Jun 2014 #34
I think that it's a symbol from the revolutionary war years and I'm not going to let teaparty fucks el_bryanto Jun 2014 #2
Exactly... I am tired of RETHUGS & Teabagggers putting ugly connotations on the US Flag and even hlthe2b Jun 2014 #39
+ a gazillion. nt Mojorabbit Jun 2014 #56
yep.. frylock Jun 2014 #66
It is the modern confederate flag. Tbaggers deny it, just like Hoyt Jun 2014 #3
Trouble ... GeorgeGist Jun 2014 #4
It has always looked like a half-assed cartoon to me. Orrex Jun 2014 #5
they've pervert it's original meaning warrior1 Jun 2014 #6
Domestic terrorists! n/t RKP5637 Jun 2014 #7
Yep. Taken over a recognized symbol and rebranded it to strike fear into people. Just like a Fred Sanders Jun 2014 #10
Exactly!!! n/t RKP5637 Jun 2014 #33
DON'T READ TO ME Capt. Obvious Jun 2014 #8
lol 2pooped2pop Jun 2014 #43
I remember how much snakes upset me...Tea Baggers included. Frustratedlady Jun 2014 #9
Snakes = sex = small equipment = guns ..lol lol lol lol !!!!!! clarice Jun 2014 #19
A nutless snake - like the teabaggers that wave it. TheCowsCameHome Jun 2014 #11
When I see one, it's usually flown w/ a stars-and-bars flag woodsprite Jun 2014 #12
We got one nadinbrzezinski Jun 2014 #13
IMO Mr Dixon Jun 2014 #14
Fuck the far-right. I won't concede this historic symbol to them. Throd Jun 2014 #15
+1 Cooley Hurd Jun 2014 #23
They can have that fucking flag. It'll be a nice match for the Confederate rag they worship. (nt) Paladin Jun 2014 #25
You mean like this? Hugabear Jun 2014 #28
Definite right-wing jerkoff image, there. (nt) Paladin Jun 2014 #32
jeese, get rid of that 2pooped2pop Jun 2014 #45
^^this^^ Puzzledtraveller Jun 2014 #62
I think, "That's one ugly flag.". And so are the people that wave it. Shrike47 Jun 2014 #16
"Fucking moron." Iggo Jun 2014 #17
I see paranoia and self-delusion and hyperbole frazzled Jun 2014 #18
Fox News induced domestic terrorists. sinkingfeeling Jun 2014 #20
These days? I take it as a symbol for right wing terrorists. MohRokTah Jun 2014 #21
Pretty much the same thing I think when I see the American flag. raouldukelives Jun 2014 #22
Asshole. TreasonousBastard Jun 2014 #24
Honestly I think of Metallica black album because that's the first time I ever saw that symbol Arcanetrance Jun 2014 #26
I wore that "tape" out twice !!!! nt clarice Jun 2014 #27
Little boys who read "Hero" comic books and dress up like cowboys. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2014 #29
pssst...!! yuiyoshida Jun 2014 #48
Demeaning comics books bespeaks a profound ignorance Codeine Jun 2014 #60
I have a right to vote against my own self interest! peace13 Jun 2014 #30
It's a tea bagger identifier for me meadowlark5 Jun 2014 #31
I hate how they made it in to a flag. Xyzse Jun 2014 #35
Google images: Teabagger liberal N proud Jun 2014 #36
Hey there's someone that the propaganda machine treads all over and they like it! Johonny Jun 2014 #37
False equivalency Zambero Jun 2014 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author tridim Jun 2014 #40
Sadly, madamesilverspurs Jun 2014 #41
Stupid-ass, infantile, 'don't-take-my-toys', functionally illiterate asshole. Aristus Jun 2014 #42
I loved this flag as a child PasadenaTrudy Jun 2014 #44
Personally yuiyoshida Jun 2014 #46
Someone who lives a miserable life. randome Jun 2014 #47
Humorous: Especially when I saw some LBGT people in Philly flying it. That image remains. TheBlackAdder Jun 2014 #49
Reminds me of the Grateful Dead lyric from Uncle John's Band al bupp Jun 2014 #50
I think there is an idiot in my presence, give a wide berth. Pisces Jun 2014 #51
Here's somebody who's too dumb to realize he's being tread on every day tularetom Jun 2014 #52
I see it as a relic of a war where Lint Head Jun 2014 #53
I just call it the Cop Killer flag now 4now Jun 2014 #54
I don't care for it as a flag, the biting snake and all The Second Stone Jun 2014 #55
Nothing more or less threatning than this flag seveneyes Jun 2014 #57
People who want to not be tread upon, but who want more opportunities to Nay Jun 2014 #58
"Don't Tread on Me" with a rattlesnake reminds me of Navy tradition that extends back for centuries hack89 Jun 2014 #59
I love that flag, and I refuse to cede it to a bunch of Teabilly fucksticks. nt Codeine Jun 2014 #61
Ditto that Puzzledtraveller Jun 2014 #63
:) napkinz Jun 2014 #64
Ah poo! NFW! In_The_Wind Jun 2014 #65
Pick another neighborhood. politicat Jun 2014 #67
... napkinz Jun 2014 #68
I have that flag and I've always liked it. Fuck the teabaggers. Autumn Jun 2014 #69
... napkinz Jun 2014 #70
 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
34. I definite don't think that at all
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 10:59 AM
Jun 2014

Why spit on that flag. It has a very important history and making it derogatory make the Right Wing win....it is NOT their flag.

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
2. I think that it's a symbol from the revolutionary war years and I'm not going to let teaparty fucks
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 10:33 AM
Jun 2014

define what it means for me.

Bryant

hlthe2b

(102,130 posts)
39. Exactly... I am tired of RETHUGS & Teabagggers putting ugly connotations on the US Flag and even
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 11:04 AM
Jun 2014

Christian symbols--for those who actually observe "real" Christianity and not the fundy RW hypocritical form.

Sadly, though, I immediately wonder if someone wearing a cross or displaying a US flag is a RWer though. That is sad...

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
3. It is the modern confederate flag. Tbaggers deny it, just like
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 10:33 AM
Jun 2014

racists say the confederate flag is just about heritage, or other such crud.

Orrex

(63,172 posts)
5. It has always looked like a half-assed cartoon to me.
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 10:33 AM
Jun 2014

I first saw it when I was in 2nd or 3rd grade, and I didn't believe that it was or had ever been a real flag.

warrior1

(12,325 posts)
6. they've pervert it's original meaning
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 10:33 AM
Jun 2014

like the American Flag.

It may take a generation to take it back.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
10. Yep. Taken over a recognized symbol and rebranded it to strike fear into people. Just like a
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 10:35 AM
Jun 2014

like a certain German party once did with a Hindu symbol.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
9. I remember how much snakes upset me...Tea Baggers included.
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 10:34 AM
Jun 2014

What a stupid symbol.

Snakes = sex = small equipment = guns = Tea Baggers obsessed with sex, small equipment and how much they hate the LGBT crowd.

Dang, I forgot to fit uneducated in there. Oh, well. I've got to do the laundry. Bye!

 

clarice

(5,504 posts)
19. Snakes = sex = small equipment = guns ..lol lol lol lol !!!!!!
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 10:46 AM
Jun 2014

How about
Bears = honey=bees=hives=terrorists ?

woodsprite

(11,905 posts)
12. When I see one, it's usually flown w/ a stars-and-bars flag
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 10:35 AM
Jun 2014

If it's on a car or truck, I usually check for a certain states tags and a set of truck balls hanging off the bumper. If it's Delaware tags, I figure they're maybe visiting NCC from either Kent or Sussex.

I have a friend who used to fly the Gadsden flag with his Marine's flag, but because of the Tea Party, he removed the it from the flagpole in his front yard.

Mr Dixon

(1,185 posts)
14. IMO
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 10:36 AM
Jun 2014

Here in VA at my job there are a few license plates that have this symbol/flag on them, funny thing is those same cars used to have anti-Obama stickers but switched once he became the POTUS.

 

Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
23. +1
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 10:49 AM
Jun 2014

I flew it from the fantail of my cruiser in 2006...during the Bush Admin. I never EVER let it get to my head so much that I'd resort to violence over my displeasure in the Bush Admin. I went and voted, instead.

Paladin

(28,243 posts)
25. They can have that fucking flag. It'll be a nice match for the Confederate rag they worship. (nt)
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 10:51 AM
Jun 2014

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
18. I see paranoia and self-delusion and hyperbole
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 10:42 AM
Jun 2014

Nobody wants to tread on you, flag wavers. Nobody is threatening you (so put down your guns). Paranoia and fear leads to bad things.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
21. These days? I take it as a symbol for right wing terrorists.
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 10:46 AM
Jun 2014

It's right up their with the Aryan Nations and Nazi Party flags these days.

raouldukelives

(5,178 posts)
22. Pretty much the same thing I think when I see the American flag.
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 10:48 AM
Jun 2014

Anyone can wrap themselves in a flag. Few know what it means to fly it.

Arcanetrance

(2,670 posts)
26. Honestly I think of Metallica black album because that's the first time I ever saw that symbol
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 10:53 AM
Jun 2014

Despite knowing it's history now I always think about my childhood buying that album

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
60. Demeaning comics books bespeaks a profound ignorance
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 01:11 PM
Jun 2014

about the art form.

Besides, comic book writers and artists are, in mt experience, overwhelmingly (though not completely) liberal and progressive in their politics.

meadowlark5

(2,795 posts)
31. It's a tea bagger identifier for me
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 10:58 AM
Jun 2014

Whenever I see it flying at someone's house, I know a tea bagger lives there. Frankly I dislike that flag. Historical or not, the whole rattle snake with the "don't tread on me" threat screams too much of that rube-ish "boot in your ass because it's the American way" attitude.

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
35. I hate how they made it in to a flag.
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 11:00 AM
Jun 2014

To me, they desecrated the meaning.

When I see it now, I just think that whoever has it, is an "entitled dip-sh1t".

Johonny

(20,818 posts)
37. Hey there's someone that the propaganda machine treads all over and they like it!
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 11:01 AM
Jun 2014

Seriously it is the flag of the sheeple. The sheeple claim to want freedom and run to the nearest person that will tell them they will be free if only they OBEY them.

Zambero

(8,962 posts)
38. False equivalency
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 11:04 AM
Jun 2014

The fact that Teabaggers have adopted this flag dating back to the American Revolution does not equate with the Confederate flag at all, which has been a long standing symbol of hatred and divisiveness. The baggers see themselves as American patriots, when in fact they are modern-day Tories, supporting policies that empower oligarchies and corporate interests over average citizens. The fact that conservatives in England have retained the Tory label is telling. During the American revolution, those who swore allegiance to the crown were also conservatives, intent on maintaining the status quo. Yes, these people are off by a full 180 degrees, and the three cornered hats and misappropriated use of historic banners do not offer them any redemption, merely delusion.

Response to Hugabear (Original post)

madamesilverspurs

(15,798 posts)
41. Sadly,
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 11:15 AM
Jun 2014

these days it usually signals the presence of someone who has NO understanding of history, drawing attention to the defiant ignorance that has come to typify the Tea Party.

Aristus

(66,293 posts)
42. Stupid-ass, infantile, 'don't-take-my-toys', functionally illiterate asshole.
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 11:16 AM
Jun 2014

That pretty-much sums it up.

PasadenaTrudy

(3,998 posts)
44. I loved this flag as a child
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 11:42 AM
Jun 2014

because it has a snake on it. Well, not anymore. I relate it to patriot douchebags.

yuiyoshida

(41,818 posts)
46. Personally
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 11:50 AM
Jun 2014

I like the design of the flag, and it has historic presidence that will LIVE BEYOND THE TEA BAGGERS. My thought always was, if they wanted to be original they should have designed their own flag... rather than steal a historic flag.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
47. Someone who lives a miserable life.
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 11:51 AM
Jun 2014

It's too bad the original message has been subverted.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Everything is a satellite to some other thing.[/center][/font][hr]

TheBlackAdder

(28,167 posts)
49. Humorous: Especially when I saw some LBGT people in Philly flying it. That image remains.
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 11:55 AM
Jun 2014

It sure would be funny if the LBGT movement took over the use of that flag nationwide.


It kind of would disuade the 'Freedom Loving' homophobes from using it.

al bupp

(2,167 posts)
50. Reminds me of the Grateful Dead lyric from Uncle John's Band
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 12:00 PM
Jun 2014

Goddamn, well I declare
Have you seen the like?
Their walls are built of cannonballs,
Their motto is Don't Tread on Me

http://artsites.ucsc.edu/GDead/AGDL/uncle.html

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
52. Here's somebody who's too dumb to realize he's being tread on every day
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 12:06 PM
Jun 2014

And the people who are treading on him are probably chortling at his stupidity.

Lint Head

(15,064 posts)
53. I see it as a relic of a war where
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 12:23 PM
Jun 2014

American general and statesman Christopher Gadsden, who designed it in 1775, made it a symbol of the American revolution. It's a museum piece. I also see it as idiots using an outhouse and calling it a modern toilet facility. Apparently less than intelligent people also don't realize muskets and powder horns are a relic of a different time.

 

The Second Stone

(2,900 posts)
55. I don't care for it as a flag, the biting snake and all
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 12:45 PM
Jun 2014

gives me the creeps, plus it looks like dog poo, which I also would not want to tread on. That said, I don't think it is racist or yucky like the Stars and Bars. It's just bad heraldry. (While the Stars and Bars is great heraldry, but politically disgusting.)

Nay

(12,051 posts)
58. People who want to not be tread upon, but who want more opportunities to
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 01:07 PM
Jun 2014

tread upon others. Libertarians, IOW.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
59. "Don't Tread on Me" with a rattlesnake reminds me of Navy tradition that extends back for centuries
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 01:08 PM
Jun 2014
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Navy_Jack

Fuck the teabaggers - they don't own the flag or the motto.

Puzzledtraveller

(5,937 posts)
63. Ditto that
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 01:24 PM
Jun 2014

I have the symbol on a ball cap, had it for years, way before the tea party. I still wear it on occasion.

politicat

(9,808 posts)
67. Pick another neighborhood.
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 02:53 PM
Jun 2014

We're casually house hunting. (We want a garage, but we can't move until Ancient Kitty goes in search of the celestial catnip. She's 23, so it'll happen eventually, but until then, we'll wait and pick the right neighborhood for us.)

When I see a Gadsden or a Confederate flag, or Beauprez yard signs (in June) or cars with "For America"* on their back windows, or NRA stickers, I know we won't fit in and I'll spend too much of my time fuming. Not to mention the fact that I lost a cousin a few years ago when his neighbor decided to test a handgun and fired it long instead of into the ground. The bullet went through the wall of my cousin's house and killed him.

Our neighborhoods are pretty dense for suburbia, and I like that. I don't mind living near responsible gun owners, but I have no way of knowing which ones are which. It's a little safer to assume that someone who advertises their affiliations will be vocal about it, which will be irritating to me at minimum, and might end up with a shooting on the block (kid sneaks out, kid sneaks in. These things happen too often.)

So when I see those signs, I move on. It's a quick shorthand. I'm going to live in that neighborhood for the rest of my life -- I don't want to set myself up for being disgruntled.

* the Romney campaign sent out rear window decals that said Romney for America. After he lost, I've noticed that a lot of the Romney part got razor-bladed off, but the For America part stayed.

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