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Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts) Wed Jun 11, 2014, 11:27 AM Jun 2014

Three ways forward with the new GOP.

1. big move right with splintering disintegration into irrelevancy.
2. slight movement right, no real change.
3. big move right with electoral success and LOOK THE FUCK OUT.

The far right flexed its muscle and ousted Cantor. The "center right" (and what a joke that is) Republican establishment will again pursue accommodation with their lunatic cousins, mouthing a bit more of their rhetoric. More primaries will follow, and if the lunatic right has more successes they can actually take over the party from the current leadership. This take-over is the "big move right". It can unfold two ways in the 2014 and 2016 elections, voter rejection in the general elections and a consequent disintegration of the GOP, or electoral success.

It is option three that scares the shit out of me. I think it is a real possibility.

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Three ways forward with the new GOP. (Original Post) Warren Stupidity Jun 2014 OP

It scares me too. We have this lunatic House Arugula Latte Jun 2014 #1

Option 3 is the christofascism option, good to be cautious, but Obama is still President for a few Fred Sanders Jun 2014 #2

Option 3 happened under Reagan and later under W. I don't see it happening again. FSogol Jun 2014 #3

The GOP is already dead tridim Jun 2014 #4

I believe Cantor was the voided bowels. CanonRay Jun 2014 #5

When vicious beasts are in their death throes, the thrashing can break things and injure people. riqster Jun 2014 #7

Grossly overoptimistic. Donald Ian Rankin Jun 2014 #8

yup. And which Republican Party will it be? Warren Stupidity Jun 2014 #9

Thus the need for us to GOTV. riqster Jun 2014 #6

Conservatives just keep march right and winning. JEB Jun 2014 #10

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)

1. It scares me too. We have this lunatic House

Reply to Warren Stupidity (Original post)

Wed Jun 11, 2014, 11:32 AM

Jun 2014

and yet plenty of idiots support these loons and vote for them.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)

2. Option 3 is the christofascism option, good to be cautious, but Obama is still President for a few

Reply to Warren Stupidity (Original post)

Wed Jun 11, 2014, 11:33 AM

Jun 2014

more years and then there is Clinton, and there is a complete turnover of the Supreme Court, so the 3rd option is a both a nightmare and a tea pipe dream.

FSogol

(45,470 posts)

3. Option 3 happened under Reagan and later under W. I don't see it happening again.

Reply to Warren Stupidity (Original post)

Wed Jun 11, 2014, 11:38 AM

Jun 2014

Even the limited government types want social security and medicare/cad. Obamacare is working and many more people are insured. The student loan bill should help energize the youth and I expect the Democrats to play up immigration reform and fairness. The country is swinging back away from the right.

GOTV.

tridim

(45,358 posts)

4. The GOP is already dead

Reply to Warren Stupidity (Original post)

Wed Jun 11, 2014, 11:40 AM

Jun 2014

They have NO options.

What we are witnessing now is post-death twitching. Voided bowels are up next.

CanonRay

(14,097 posts)

5. I believe Cantor was the voided bowels.

Reply to tridim (Reply #4)

Wed Jun 11, 2014, 11:59 AM

Jun 2014

You made me spit on my keyboard.

riqster

(13,986 posts)

7. When vicious beasts are in their death throes, the thrashing can break things and injure people.

Reply to tridim (Reply #4)

Wed Jun 11, 2014, 12:04 PM

Jun 2014

Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)

8. Grossly overoptimistic.

Reply to tridim (Reply #4)

Wed Jun 11, 2014, 12:20 PM

Jun 2014

Except for the Republicans in 1980-1992, no party has held the presidency for more than 8 years since the war.

People get fed up with the president's party, the longer it's in power.

The Republican presidential candidate will probably be heavy favourite going into 2016, and very heavy favourite in 2020 if they lose then.