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apples and oranges

(1,451 posts)
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 12:42 PM Jun 2014

Most Americans oppose teacher tenure, but support higher pay for good teachers

Opposition to teacher tenure is a mainstream opinion, not a right wing opinion. As you can see from the poll results below, Americans believe our public schools are in a crisis, but they overwhelmingly support paying good teachers more money, even if it means higher taxes.

1. Do you think that public schools in this country are in a 'crisis,' or not?
In a crisis: 67%
Not in a crisis: 29%
No answer/don't know: 3%

3. Would you be willing to pay higher taxes to improve the public schools, or not?
Willing to pay higher taxes: 56%
Not willing: 42%
No answer/don't know: 2%


5. In general, do you think teachers are overpaid, paid about right or underpaid given their level of training and importance to society?
Underpaid: 61%
Paid about right: 26%
Overpaid: 7%
No answer/don't know: 5%

7. Do you support or oppose tenure for teachers, the practice of guaranteeing teachers lifetime job security after they have worked for a certain amount of time?
Support tenure: 28%
Oppose tenure: 66%
No answer/don't know: 6%

8. Do you support or oppose "merit pay," the concept of paying teachers according to their effectiveness?
Support merit pay: 71%
Oppose merit pay: 23%
No answer/don't know: 6%

More poll questions: http://content.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2016994,00.html

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Most Americans oppose teacher tenure, but support higher pay for good teachers (Original Post) apples and oranges Jun 2014 OP
The results are only as good as the poll, which is 4 years old and has a limited sample. femmocrat Jun 2014 #1
I like how the crisis question doesn't require one to assign blame abelenkpe Jun 2014 #2
If 56% of people actualy voted to pay higher taxes kiva Jun 2014 #3
It Amazes Me RobinA Jun 2014 #4
Garbage In - Garbage Out... Blue Idaho Jun 2014 #5

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
1. The results are only as good as the poll, which is 4 years old and has a limited sample.
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 12:49 PM
Jun 2014

This TIME magazine poll was conducted by telephone Aug. 17-19, 2010, among a representative national random sample of 1,000 Americans, ages 18 and older, throughout America. The margin of error for the entire sample is approximately +/- 3 percentage points. The margin of error is higher for subgroups. Surveys are subject to other error sources as well, including sampling coverage error, recording error and respondent error. Abt SRBI Public Affairs conducted all interviewing. The full TIME poll questionnaire and trend data may be found at Abt SRBI.

abelenkpe

(9,933 posts)
2. I like how the crisis question doesn't require one to assign blame
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 12:53 PM
Jun 2014

Sure most people would like improvements but wonder how many support corporations taking over and running schools like a business vs those who think they should remain public and funded better. Worry that polls like these will just be used to continue the march towards privatization citing disillusionment with the current system.

kiva

(4,373 posts)
3. If 56% of people actualy voted to pay higher taxes
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 12:54 PM
Jun 2014

to fund public schools then schools would be adequately funded - which pretty much tells me all I need to know about this poll.

RobinA

(9,888 posts)
4. It Amazes Me
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 12:56 PM
Jun 2014

how many people support merit pay. I mean, how do they think that would work?

And I'm not a teacher or in any way connected with education.

Blue Idaho

(5,049 posts)
5. Garbage In - Garbage Out...
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 01:00 PM
Jun 2014

Tenure does not guarantee lifetime employment. Tenure guarantees due process and protects teachers for capricious administrators and bad school boards. Virtually every school system in the US has two additional policies along with Tenure. They are removal for cause and reduction in force. Those policies allow teachers to be re-mediated or removed if there are problems in the classroom and in the case of a financial crisis there is a non-biased process to decide who stays and who goes.

The question as asked is a push poll. Don't expect valid information to come from such a biased question.

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