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Attacked at Gay Pride Detroit 2014 (Warning: Violence) (Original Post) FrodosPet Jun 2014 OP
I hope someone called 911 than just walking by. n/t RKP5637 Jun 2014 #1
Some actual information about this, here: enlightenment Jun 2014 #2
Thanks for posting this! n/t RKP5637 Jun 2014 #5
Updated story FrodosPet Jun 2014 #13
Thank you for the update, FrodosPet, enlightenment Jun 2014 #17
Some of these individuals need to see some serious jail time. NCTraveler Jun 2014 #3
I could lie to myself and say I'm suprised by this... InfoWingerWatch Jun 2014 #4
I'm guessing the lady making the video is an upstanding member of the community snooper2 Jun 2014 #6
I read that the young woman recording the video... rollin74 Jun 2014 #7
Actually, her recording the video might actually help id the attackers. Behind the Aegis Jun 2014 #9
good point about the video helping to ID rollin74 Jun 2014 #10
What was more jarring to me, were the OTHER people in the video just watching. Behind the Aegis Jun 2014 #11
Alas, that's Detroit FrodosPet Jun 2014 #12
It's likely anywhere sadly. Behind the Aegis Jun 2014 #21
I was looking at the top one - Ms. Toad Jun 2014 #26
and you heard what her nasty ass said at the end right... snooper2 Jun 2014 #32
Better edit to add the link that Enlightenment provided... countryjake Jun 2014 #8
You would expect a thread about a gay man being beaten by multiple individuals.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2014 #14
I think #15 may have a point FrodosPet Jun 2014 #18
No, not really. Not here. Behind the Aegis Jun 2014 #20
You matter to me, BtA! Sissyk Jun 2014 #30
Thank you. Behind the Aegis Jun 2014 #33
I think we both know the answer to that.. Upton Jun 2014 #29
I think posting this video may perpetrate a racist stereotype Michigander_Life Jun 2014 #15
I think seeing the video is VERY important to understanding what happened FrodosPet Jun 2014 #19
It probably will Lee-Lee Jun 2014 #22
The person yelling WORLD STAR doesn't help Capt. Obvious Jun 2014 #27
So awful. Violent bigots. Horrific. Bluenorthwest Jun 2014 #16
Sadly a more likely outcome is that anyone who names them will be brutalized Michigander_Life Jun 2014 #23
That is usually in refernce to reporting organized drug and gang activity, not morningfog Jun 2014 #24
That's not correct. Michigander_Life Jun 2014 #25
You are correct Lee-Lee Jun 2014 #28
K&R Sissyk Jun 2014 #31

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
13. Updated story
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 09:50 PM
Jun 2014

You do make a good point. Just because the posts connected in my head, it does not mean that without a link anyone else would understand the context.

Thanks for filling in the blanks. Here is local coverage from last night:

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http://www.freep.com/article/20140610/NEWS05/306100143/Pride-Festival-Detroit-beating-gay

Detroiter: Mob yelled anti-gay slurs, attacked me outside Motor City Pride

10:24 PM, June 10, 2014

Christin Howard said he’s still in shock two days after he was beaten outside the Motor City Pride festival by a group of men who he believes targeted him because he’s gay.

~ snip ~

A video posted on YouTube on Monday shows the men punching and kicking Howard for nearly a minute before running away. Howard can be seen trying to defend himself by punching back.

Howard said no one came to his aid and he isn’t sure who recorded the video. He said he suffered a fractured finger, damage to his left eye and several bruises on his face and back.

~ snip ~

enlightenment

(8,830 posts)
17. Thank you for the update, FrodosPet,
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 10:04 PM
Jun 2014

and I sincerely apologize for snapping at you. It is so disturbing to see this sort of thing that I reacted without considering why you posted in that fashion.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
3. Some of these individuals need to see some serious jail time.
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 12:59 PM
Jun 2014

If the link offered by another poster is correct their time should be extended even further as a hate crime(act of terrorism).

rollin74

(1,952 posts)
7. I read that the young woman recording the video...
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 05:17 PM
Jun 2014

was the same person who wanted to stop and take a picture with the victim, just before the attack occurred

too bad she seems more concerned with recording the damn video than calling for help


since the other video was taken down
here it is:



news report about it:

Behind the Aegis

(53,831 posts)
9. Actually, her recording the video might actually help id the attackers.
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 05:33 PM
Jun 2014

I used to worry about this going to pride festivals. I haven't been to one in awhile now, I missed Tulsa's because I forgot.

Behind the Aegis

(53,831 posts)
11. What was more jarring to me, were the OTHER people in the video just watching.
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 05:48 PM
Jun 2014

Or casually walking by the fracas.

Behind the Aegis

(53,831 posts)
21. It's likely anywhere sadly.
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 05:31 AM
Jun 2014

Honestly, I don't know I would intervene. I would call 911 for sure, but that many people, it could just create another victim. We have become such a violent culture and it is so sad.

Ms. Toad

(33,915 posts)
26. I was looking at the top one -
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 08:44 AM
Jun 2014

and had the same thought. That's close enough, and clear enough, that it ought to seal the fate of at least some of those bullies.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
32. and you heard what her nasty ass said at the end right...
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 10:25 AM
Jun 2014

She was essentiallly calling them out for having to all jump him and called him some slurs of course

countryjake

(8,554 posts)
8. Better edit to add the link that Enlightenment provided...
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 05:24 PM
Jun 2014

because YouTube has removed the video already.

There's a video report which shows parts of the attack at that Raw Story article.

Horrific.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
14. You would expect a thread about a gay man being beaten by multiple individuals....
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 09:57 PM
Jun 2014

....including video of the attack would get many, if not hundreds of responses, in ten or so hours time....

Yet this thread sits oddly quiet for the most part.

I'm wondering why.

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
18. I think #15 may have a point
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 05:19 AM
Jun 2014

Had it been a group of white monsters, people would feel comfortable commenting.

But it seems like progressives are worried that they will be cast as bigots if they comment on and condemn black on black crime. They act on the naive theory that ignoring the reality of the victimization of people of color by others within their community will somehow create more positive attitudes.

And so, people keep on dying. People keep going to jail. And whites have the privilege of ignoring it because recognizing the reality is somehow racist.

Behind the Aegis

(53,831 posts)
20. No, not really. Not here.
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 05:28 AM
Jun 2014

Some gay posters pass over things like this not because we are callous to it, we are simply used to it. We don't matter.

ETA: We don't matter....unless it satisfies another cause.

Behind the Aegis

(53,831 posts)
33. Thank you.
Fri Jun 13, 2014, 02:10 AM
Jun 2014


It is a shameful thing to see these types of things. We have politicians calling for us to be stoned, we are mistakes, we can change, and some don't understand how dangerous it really is and how the scales can easily tip against us, just look at Russia!

Upton

(9,709 posts)
29. I think we both know the answer to that..
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 09:36 AM
Jun 2014

if the attackers were white this thread would have those hundreds of replies..

 

Michigander_Life

(549 posts)
15. I think posting this video may perpetrate a racist stereotype
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 09:58 PM
Jun 2014

I would rather an article without the video. People are going to make this a "black" issue instead of an anti-gay issue.

This violence is so disheartening I am in tears right now.

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
19. I think seeing the video is VERY important to understanding what happened
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 05:21 AM
Jun 2014

It connects people with that horror in a way words never will be able to.

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
22. It probably will
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 06:37 AM
Jun 2014

But video is video, it tells no lies.

We just need to keep the discussion on track.

 

Michigander_Life

(549 posts)
23. Sadly a more likely outcome is that anyone who names them will be brutalized
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 07:48 AM
Jun 2014

"Snitches get stitches" -- there are serious consequences for participating in the justice system in many circles.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
24. That is usually in refernce to reporting organized drug and gang activity, not
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 07:55 AM
Jun 2014

a situation like this. You shouldn't assume that "many circles" includes all African-Americans under any circumstance.

 

Michigander_Life

(549 posts)
25. That's not correct.
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 08:23 AM
Jun 2014

I'm certainly NOT referring to "all African-Americans under any circumstance." See my earlier post in this thread lamenting the video post making this into a racial issue.

"Snitches get stitches" is a mindset that crosses racial, ethnic and economic lines and is prevalent amongst our youth.

I'm not sure if your assumption was a result of you projecting, or simply a case of being overly defensive. But I hope that this response clarifies.

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
28. You are correct
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 09:27 AM
Jun 2014

If they get turned in it will likely be because a parent or other older person recognizes them.

Sissyk

(12,665 posts)
31. K&R
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 09:48 AM
Jun 2014

We all need to work on stopping violence.

As a mother and aunt, this video makes me cringe. It also makes me very sad.

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