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(67,031 posts)enlightenment
(8,830 posts)Please don't post this sort of thing without some comment - it is disturbing and makes your motives for posting look rather suspect.
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(67,031 posts)FrodosPet
(5,169 posts)You do make a good point. Just because the posts connected in my head, it does not mean that without a link anyone else would understand the context.
Thanks for filling in the blanks. Here is local coverage from last night:
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http://www.freep.com/article/20140610/NEWS05/306100143/Pride-Festival-Detroit-beating-gay
Detroiter: Mob yelled anti-gay slurs, attacked me outside Motor City Pride
10:24 PM, June 10, 2014
Christin Howard said hes still in shock two days after he was beaten outside the Motor City Pride festival by a group of men who he believes targeted him because hes gay.
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A video posted on YouTube on Monday shows the men punching and kicking Howard for nearly a minute before running away. Howard can be seen trying to defend himself by punching back.
Howard said no one came to his aid and he isnt sure who recorded the video. He said he suffered a fractured finger, damage to his left eye and several bruises on his face and back.
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enlightenment
(8,830 posts)and I sincerely apologize for snapping at you. It is so disturbing to see this sort of thing that I reacted without considering why you posted in that fashion.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)If the link offered by another poster is correct their time should be extended even further as a hate crime(act of terrorism).
InfoWingerWatch
(78 posts)but I'm not.
That's all I'm going to say.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)rollin74
(1,952 posts)was the same person who wanted to stop and take a picture with the victim, just before the attack occurred
too bad she seems more concerned with recording the damn video than calling for help
since the other video was taken down
here it is:
news report about it:
Behind the Aegis
(53,831 posts)I used to worry about this going to pride festivals. I haven't been to one in awhile now, I missed Tulsa's because I forgot.
rollin74
(1,952 posts)the attackers
that is true
Behind the Aegis
(53,831 posts)Or casually walking by the fracas.
FrodosPet
(5,169 posts)Where snitches get stitches and end up in ditches.
Behind the Aegis
(53,831 posts)Honestly, I don't know I would intervene. I would call 911 for sure, but that many people, it could just create another victim. We have become such a violent culture and it is so sad.
Ms. Toad
(33,915 posts)and had the same thought. That's close enough, and clear enough, that it ought to seal the fate of at least some of those bullies.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)She was essentiallly calling them out for having to all jump him and called him some slurs of course
countryjake
(8,554 posts)because YouTube has removed the video already.
There's a video report which shows parts of the attack at that Raw Story article.
Horrific.
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)....including video of the attack would get many, if not hundreds of responses, in ten or so hours time....
Yet this thread sits oddly quiet for the most part.
I'm wondering why.
FrodosPet
(5,169 posts)Had it been a group of white monsters, people would feel comfortable commenting.
But it seems like progressives are worried that they will be cast as bigots if they comment on and condemn black on black crime. They act on the naive theory that ignoring the reality of the victimization of people of color by others within their community will somehow create more positive attitudes.
And so, people keep on dying. People keep going to jail. And whites have the privilege of ignoring it because recognizing the reality is somehow racist.
Behind the Aegis
(53,831 posts)Some gay posters pass over things like this not because we are callous to it, we are simply used to it. We don't matter.
ETA: We don't matter....unless it satisfies another cause.
Sissyk
(12,665 posts)I do understand what you are saying though. We even see it here. to you!
Behind the Aegis
(53,831 posts)It is a shameful thing to see these types of things. We have politicians calling for us to be stoned, we are mistakes, we can change, and some don't understand how dangerous it really is and how the scales can easily tip against us, just look at Russia!
Upton
(9,709 posts)if the attackers were white this thread would have those hundreds of replies..
Michigander_Life
(549 posts)I would rather an article without the video. People are going to make this a "black" issue instead of an anti-gay issue.
This violence is so disheartening I am in tears right now.
FrodosPet
(5,169 posts)It connects people with that horror in a way words never will be able to.
Lee-Lee
(6,324 posts)But video is video, it tells no lies.
We just need to keep the discussion on track.
Capt. Obvious
(9,002 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)I hope the attackers are found and jailed.
Michigander_Life
(549 posts)"Snitches get stitches" -- there are serious consequences for participating in the justice system in many circles.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)a situation like this. You shouldn't assume that "many circles" includes all African-Americans under any circumstance.
Michigander_Life
(549 posts)I'm certainly NOT referring to "all African-Americans under any circumstance." See my earlier post in this thread lamenting the video post making this into a racial issue.
"Snitches get stitches" is a mindset that crosses racial, ethnic and economic lines and is prevalent amongst our youth.
I'm not sure if your assumption was a result of you projecting, or simply a case of being overly defensive. But I hope that this response clarifies.
Lee-Lee
(6,324 posts)If they get turned in it will likely be because a parent or other older person recognizes them.
Sissyk
(12,665 posts)We all need to work on stopping violence.
As a mother and aunt, this video makes me cringe. It also makes me very sad.