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applegrove

(118,492 posts)
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 02:35 PM Jun 2014

"Bowe Bergdahl previously washed out of Coast Guard, new Post story reports"

Bowe Bergdahl previously washed out of Coast Guard, new Post story reports

By Dan Lamothe at the Washington Post

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2014/06/11/bowe-bergdahl-previously-washed-out-of-coast-guard-new-post-story-reports/

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Three years before Army. Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl disappeared from his small military outpost in eastern Afghanistan, he enlisted in the Coast Guard and left after 26 days due to psychological reasons, according to a new Washington Post story published Wednesday.

The story reports exclusively that Bergdahl received an “uncharacterized discharge,” which applies to individuals who are released from duty before completing 180 days of service. No reason was specified, but friends of Bergdahl told The Post that they were worried about his emotional health at the time.

Bergdahl’s fleeting time in the Coast Guard had not been reported previously. It raises anew questions about how he later was approved to join the Army and deployed with an infantry unit to a volatile area of eastern Afghanistan in 2009.

Bergdahl’s past in the Coast Guard also underscores how little is known about the only U.S. soldier who was held by the Taliban. He was recovered May 31 by U.S. Special Forces as part of a swap in which the United States released five Taliban officials. The move has infuriated some lawmakers and some current and retired U.S. soldiers, who have described Bergdahl as a deserter and say he should not have been swapped for senior Taliban.



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"Bowe Bergdahl previously washed out of Coast Guard, new Post story reports" (Original Post) applegrove Jun 2014 OP
Yep, the military must have really reduced standards for Army to take him. Looks like some folks Hoyt Jun 2014 #1
It is looking like Bowe was exploited to improve somebody's numbers. applegrove Jun 2014 #4
You mean, like Bush? villager Jun 2014 #2
i wonder if he washed out of cub scouts also uppityperson Jun 2014 #3
Point is he should have been flagged when he signed up for the army and not allowed in. applegrove Jun 2014 #6
And again, at this point, so? I am not sure about the point. uppityperson Jun 2014 #8
No. I totally think they should have got him back. And that he never should have been applegrove Jun 2014 #10
The Steven Dale Green Iraq rape/murder made me realize how many they still accept that they should uppityperson Jun 2014 #13
Interesting.... DonViejo Jun 2014 #5
Why do some posters follow RW standards in scapegoating him too? mylye2222 Jun 2014 #7
It is not a right wing talking point. My point in posting it is that Bowe was exploited by applegrove Jun 2014 #11
So they must have a copy of his DD214 which shows his reenlistment eligibility code Exposethefrauds Jun 2014 #9
he may have "gone Galt" according to a friend PeaceNikki Jun 2014 #12
I think bringing him home was an act of mercy, above all. TwilightGardener Jun 2014 #14
There seems to be a cottage industry of sorts trying to dig up dirt on Bergdahl Warpy Jun 2014 #15
It isn't meant to be dirt. Bowe clearly should not have been in the army. In this age of applegrove Jun 2014 #17
It's meant to be dirt to throw at Obama Warpy Jun 2014 #19
So what? cleanhippie Jun 2014 #16
It is about weak candidates being accepted into the military when they should not be. applegrove Jun 2014 #18
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
1. Yep, the military must have really reduced standards for Army to take him. Looks like some folks
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 02:39 PM
Jun 2014

made a big mistake.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
8. And again, at this point, so? I am not sure about the point.
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 03:03 PM
Jun 2014

Does this mean they were wrong in getting him back? That he wasn't worth it?

Or that the military should look at its applicants better in the future to avoid potential issues, like with Steven Green? That part I agree with.

applegrove

(118,492 posts)
10. No. I totally think they should have got him back. And that he never should have been
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 03:13 PM
Jun 2014

sent overseas. Someone on CNN said he must have been given a waver to join the army due to the fact he was let go for psychological reasons from the Coast guard. He never should have been put in that situation.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
13. The Steven Dale Green Iraq rape/murder made me realize how many they still accept that they should
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 03:27 PM
Jun 2014

not. This one? I need to read more as so far I see rumors.

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
5. Interesting....
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 02:41 PM
Jun 2014

In one article the Post writes he was discharged for unspecified reasons but, in another report, the Post writes it was for psychological reasons.

Before he became a Taliban prisoner, before he wrote in his journal “I am the lone wolf of deadly nothingness,” before he ever joined the Army, Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl was discharged from the U.S. Coast Guard for psychological reasons, said close friends who were worried about his emotional health at the time.

The 2006 discharge and a trove of Bergdahl’s writing — the handwritten journal along with other essays, stories and e-mails provided to The Washington Post — paint a portrait of a deeply complicated and fragile young man who was by his own account struggling to maintain his mental stability from the start of basic training until the moment he walked off his post in eastern Afghanistan.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/bergdahls-writings-reveal-a-fragile-young-man/2014/06/11/fb9349fe-f165-11e3-bf76-447a5df6411f_story.html


or

Bergdahl’s writings reveal his fragile state long before leaving base
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014823478
 

mylye2222

(2,992 posts)
7. Why do some posters follow RW standards in scapegoating him too?
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 03:03 PM
Jun 2014

I mean this information sounds like a new rumor planted. For each day a scoop to drown more him. Disgusting.

applegrove

(118,492 posts)
11. It is not a right wing talking point. My point in posting it is that Bowe was exploited by
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 03:15 PM
Jun 2014

the army in keeping him if they knew he was let go from the coast guard for psychological reasons. And someone with psychological issues should not be blamed for how he washes out when it is known he has a history of psychologically washing out in stressful jobs.

 

Exposethefrauds

(531 posts)
9. So they must have a copy of his DD214 which shows his reenlistment eligibility code
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 03:13 PM
Jun 2014

RE-4 keeps you out if the military and RE-1 mean you can reenlist

There are many other codes so what was his?

If they do not have a copy if his USCG DD214 it is a BS story

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
12. he may have "gone Galt" according to a friend
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 03:21 PM
Jun 2014

Bergdahl began to communicate with friends about his disaffection with war and other people generally, focusing on his personal development and sharing a passion for Ayn Rand, the intellectual defender of capitalism and selfishness, and a favorite of many conservative thinkers and politicians:

On June 27, he sent an e-mail to his friends titled "Who is John Galt?," a reference to the hero of Ayn Rand's novel "Atlas Shrugged," about individualism in a dystopian America.

"I will serve no bandit, nor lair, for i know John Galt, and understand .?.?." Bergdahl wrote. "This life is too short to serve those who compromise value, and its ethics. i am done compromising."

Three days later, Bergdahl walked off his post.

The intimation is that Bergdahl didn't desert as a liberal peacenik with pro-Taliban tendencies, but rather that he was "going Galt"—dropping out of modern society to pursue individual freedom in the mold of Rand's capitalist hero.

http://gawker.com/taliban-pow-had-psych-issues-before-enlisting-may-have-1589299406/all

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
14. I think bringing him home was an act of mercy, above all.
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 03:41 PM
Jun 2014

He clearly wasn't well to begin with. There's no telling what 5 years with the Taliban did to him on top of his other issues. It's really sad.

Warpy

(111,141 posts)
15. There seems to be a cottage industry of sorts trying to dig up dirt on Bergdahl
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 03:59 PM
Jun 2014

probably so that the right wing hardliners won't look as stupid as they are.

I don't care if he was going to the john in the middle of the night and decided to take a walk because he couldn't sleep or he ran off to join the Taliban and got captured, instead. He was a US citizen being held in appalling conditions and he needed to be freed.

Now if the Army had gone in on Obama's orders, guns blazing, and dragged him out of there with "friendly fire" bullet holes, the right wing would likely be quite happy about it. They hate that they were deprived of a vicarious shoot out by sissy diplomacy.

That's the real reason for their ire, Obama just isn't enough of a manly man for them, they preferred Stupid's style. They're just taking it out on Bergdahl.

applegrove

(118,492 posts)
17. It isn't meant to be dirt. Bowe clearly should not have been in the army. In this age of
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 04:23 PM
Jun 2014

psychological tested and records...he must have been given a 'waver' (CNN reported) to be allowed to serve in the army. And that is a problem. This is not about dirt but is about someone serving who should not have been. How many others are there out there that are being similarly exploited by the army.

Warpy

(111,141 posts)
19. It's meant to be dirt to throw at Obama
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 04:31 PM
Jun 2014

The impression I get is that he was a drifter and his daddy thought the military would be the making of him. Maybe it would have been, but a couple of stupid and unwinnable wars got in the way.

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