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rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 05:15 PM Jun 2014

The Official 2014 Democratic Party Survey

I just received mine in the mail. What really stood out was the lack of questions related to the following:

Gun violence

Wall Street corruption

Fast Tracking of the Trans Pacific Partnership.

The XL Pipeline.

The environmental damage of wide spread fracking.

Investigations of the overreaches of the NSA/CIA organization.

Repealing the Patriot Act.

Investing in infrastructure and not military buildups.

I responded mentioning how I feel about the above and stated that I will support Democratic candidates but not thru the DNC.

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The Official 2014 Democratic Party Survey (Original Post) rhett o rick Jun 2014 OP
I didn't bother to renew my DNC membership this time around. Instead, I'll give that money plus RKP5637 Jun 2014 #1
Not surprised ... GeorgeGist Jun 2014 #2
Bingo! Scuba Jun 2014 #3
Well, that certainly exposes their "representation" as a farce and a scam. woo me with science Jun 2014 #4
K&R Every Democrat should be angry over this. woo me with science Jun 2014 #5
Ah to dream. Some Democrats want the pseudo-comfort of living in denial. Dreaming that rhett o rick Jun 2014 #6
What is so disturbing to me is the deliberateness of it. woo me with science Jun 2014 #10
Sadly there are a lot of Democrats that dont want to rock the boat. They will stick with the rhett o rick Jun 2014 #12
I'm not even this kind about their motives rhett........ socialist_n_TN Jun 2014 #15
I will agree with that. Our government is full of oligarch supporters in both parties. rhett o rick Jun 2014 #17
I hung up on the guy would called me Doctor_J Jun 2014 #7
Kick, because this is important. How sick a place have we reached in politics woo me with science Jun 2014 #8
K&R JEB Jun 2014 #9
That makes their position clear. Autumn Jun 2014 #11
kick woo me with science Jun 2014 #13
Because it's not a survey... brooklynite Jun 2014 #14
^^^^ THIS ^^^^ FSogol Jun 2014 #16
I am well aware of what it really is, a not so cleverly disguised attempt to get money. No thanks rhett o rick Jun 2014 #18
So, when it says ''Survey'' on the front... Octafish Jun 2014 #19
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2014 #20

RKP5637

(67,032 posts)
1. I didn't bother to renew my DNC membership this time around. Instead, I'll give that money plus
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 05:25 PM
Jun 2014

more to individual democrats in line with my sig. line.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
4. Well, that certainly exposes their "representation" as a farce and a scam.
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 06:45 PM
Jun 2014

Last edited Thu Jun 12, 2014, 07:26 AM - Edit history (3)

The issues you cited are the issues. They are the central issues of our lives now. Leaving them out is a glaring admission that you plan to do whatever the hell you and your corporate masters want, and that your claims to represent us are baldfaced lies.

Thank you for showing us what you really are, corporate Democrats.


 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
6. Ah to dream. Some Democrats want the pseudo-comfort of living in denial. Dreaming that
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 07:03 PM
Jun 2014

the Democratic leadership will take good care of them.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
10. What is so disturbing to me is the deliberateness of it.
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 10:37 PM
Jun 2014

The deliberate perversion for the public of the meaning and purpose of elections.

People who seek elected office, and the party machine behind them, know that it's all about power. They know what the important issues of the day are. They know that elections are supposed to be about seeking the will of the people, and competing to see who can best represent their interests. Yet we are fed this garbage telling us constantly that the issues don't matter and diverting us to this fluff and pablum and meaningless emotional fervor masquerading as political interest... so that the machine can work on what it wants to work on without being bothered by us. It is replacing the foundations of our representative system...our basic civics education....with sports team mentality and vapid loyalty to "Leaders" rather than participatory civics and demands of accountability from representatives.

It is a sickness and a manipulation that, taken to its extreme, becomes someplace like North Korea. It truly makes me viscerally sick to see that it has come so far here that what purports to be THE OFFICIAL DEMOCRATIC PARTY SURVEY TO GAUGE VOTERS' VIEWS ON IMPORTANT ISSUES does not even include the most important issues. I am so glad you posted about this. I think this thread should have hundreds of recs, because it speaks to the core sickness of what is being done to us.

I wonder how many complaints they will get about it. It makes me physically ill to think that there won't be many.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
12. Sadly there are a lot of Democrats that dont want to rock the boat. They will stick with the
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 11:28 PM
Jun 2014

status quo because they are cowards and afraid to challenge authority.

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
15. I'm not even this kind about their motives rhett........
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 08:54 AM
Jun 2014

I think that most of the Dem leaders aren't just cowards, I think they actually WANT to keep the status quo intact. Keeping the status quo (divided government) intact means they don't have to DO anything about these issues, except blame Republicans for not doing anything.

It's all a game and we're the ones being played.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
17. I will agree with that. Our government is full of oligarch supporters in both parties.
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 10:38 AM
Jun 2014

I was referring to some of the rank and file Democrats. Many can be seen here masquerading as "political liberals". They dont like to think for themselves and therefore seek a leader to blindly follow. They are willing to stick with the status quo as it sinks into the mire. I am grateful that our founders were not such cowards and I think we have an obligation to fight for the freedoms and liberties they fought so hard to establish.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
8. Kick, because this is important. How sick a place have we reached in politics
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 09:48 PM
Jun 2014

Last edited Wed Jun 11, 2014, 11:02 PM - Edit history (5)

that what pretends to be The Democratic Party survey of its voters on important issues of the day does not even include the major issues of the day?

This is an exceedingly creepy statement on what our political parties and our elections have been perverted into. This is more like what you would expect from North Korea than a representative republic.

We are now reaching a point in our politics where the parties don't even pretend to be battling based on the actual important agendas of the day. We the People are being propagandized into accepting a perversion of our elections in which we are to align through sheer emotion with one party or the other, and to fervently defend them based on nothing but the party affiliation.

It is sick.
It is creepy.
It is undemocratic.

And to see it reflected so blatantly in actual party materials like this is disturbing as hell.

brooklynite

(93,879 posts)
14. Because it's not a survey...
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 07:43 AM
Jun 2014

...it's a collection mechanism for your contact information, and hopefully your money.

Welcome to the real world.

FSogol

(45,363 posts)
16. ^^^^ THIS ^^^^
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 08:58 AM
Jun 2014

Since you told them what you were interested in, future mailings to solicit funds will include those issues.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
18. I am well aware of what it really is, a not so cleverly disguised attempt to get money. No thanks
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 10:42 AM
Jun 2014

DNC.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
19. So, when it says ''Survey'' on the front...
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 10:47 AM
Jun 2014

... it's not a survey, sort of like saying "Democrats support Main Street over Wall Street." That's real world, all right.

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