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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/06/10/1305808/-California-discovers-hidden-price-tag-of-outsourcing-Bay-Bridge-to-ChinaThe California Department of Transportation's decision to save money by hiring a Chinese company that had never built a bridge to build major parts of the new San Francisco-Oakland Bay Bridge was troubling to begin with. A major Sacramento Bee investigation pushes it from troubling to terrifying. The article, by Charles Piller, details how Caltrans management was determined to stick with Chinese contractor ZPMC even as Caltrans inspectors repeatedly caught the company making significant mistakes and failing on quality control measures:
His comments were echoed by experts inside and outside Caltrans some of whom supervised the welding and warned of serious flaws. They said the state bought a bridge likely to require extraordinary and costly maintenance. [...]
Professional engineers, he said, must report any irregularities that could affect public welfare. Thats what [Doug Coe, a Caltrans engineer who worked on the project in China] and his colleagues did.
But (Caltrans) has the prerogative to accept these (cracked or suspect parts), fit for purpose, Coe said. Thats what Caltrans managers did.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)This has to be a joke.....nobody is that stupid. Thank God this is just sarcasm or something.
Drew Richards
(1,558 posts)The bullshit hidden/no bid deal that shut out American steel wkrkers...
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)I don't know why you don't think I am serious. Who shut out the American Steel Workers? This is the first I am hearing of this at all.
GeorgeGist
(25,319 posts)Bay Bridges troubled China connection
http://www.sacbee.com/static/sinclair/sinclair.jquery/baybridge/index.html
Mr.Bill
(24,282 posts)Some large steel parts were outsourced to China because there were no American companies capable of making them. At least that's what we were told here at the time. There are problems with some of the parts. The bridge was constructed by an American company with American workers.
More details here:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/26/business/global/26bridge.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
badtoworse
(5,957 posts)If we couldn't do the job ourselves, who's fault is that?
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)The metal span that is being removed is on its way to china.
nationalize the fed
(2,169 posts)Yet most of those that think this is a good idea will probably be re-elected in Nov.
New Bay Bridge shows signs of rust in critical areas
April 12,2014
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10406206
Can't build bridges. What a disgrace. A Disgrace and an insult to this nation.
But the jobless can sleep under the defective bridges so there's that.
rickyhall
(4,889 posts)I can see buying pc's from China, but bridges? It's not like we have too many jobs & not enough workers on anything.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)who refuse to drive over the bridge.
Period.
They will drive the long way around via the golden Gate or San Mateo bridges.
because this crap about Chinese materials has been reported on for a few years now.
the bolts holding the spans up are rusting thru, and some of them are in spots which then were covered up/over
so that checking them out means dis-assembly of parts of the span.
One of these days...
opiate69
(10,129 posts)(Primarily in the US, though we are global and have been for a century)
And several of our customers have told me about buying wire rope from China. Some of their customers don't care if it's Chinese, as long as it's cheap. But anyway, whenever they buy rope they pull test it before they can certify it and sell it, and I've heard that as much as 75% of the time, the rope fails before it even reaches the limits the Chinese manufacturers certify it at.