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Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 01:48 AM Jun 2014

Should it be legal for parents to abandon their children over state lines?

Nebraska law was once written in away that it was legal for people to drive there and abandon their children. This loophole was soon exploited and soon rejected by the community as morally wrong and a way to avoid parental responsibility. The law was soon changed.

Why would we even consider allowing it and enable it over our borders?

There are a couple of ways law-abiding citizens can abandon children in Nebraska. Sometimes a desperate parent will tell a child that he or she is going to the hospital for something minor, like a rash — then in the emergency room, the child waits and waits, only to discover that the doctors are there but the parent has walked away for good. Or unruly teenagers might simply be dumped at the ER door. "A parent will pull up and say, 'All right, get out of the car,' " says Lisa Stites of Creighton University Medical Center in Omaha. In other states, laws that allow parents to leave their children at hospitals or fire stations are usually limited to newborns of a few weeks or months. In Nebraska, the law failed to define the word child. As a result, teenagers as old as 17 have been abandoned.

And not just one or two. Nebraska found itself facing an epidemic of abandoned children

http://content.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1859405,00.html




Should a parent be able to pay a cartel smuggler to take their problem child to honduras, guatemala, el salvador, canada or mexico and hope for the best for them? Wouldn't we consider that a crime?
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Should it be legal for parents to abandon their children over state lines? (Original Post) Jesus Malverde Jun 2014 OP
There are two scenarios jberryhill Jun 2014 #1
In 1912 my great grandparents looked around and decided that Eastern Europe didn't look like a great LeftyMom Jun 2014 #2
Should desperate american parents be allowed the right to send away their children? Jesus Malverde Jun 2014 #3
that. is. AMAZING renate Jun 2014 #4
That's amazing LittleBlue Jun 2014 #5
Forcing children to stay with parents who don't want them . . . snot Jun 2014 #6
Children who run away often suffer worse than if they stayed at home. Jesus Malverde Jun 2014 #7
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
1. There are two scenarios
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 01:55 AM
Jun 2014

In one scenario, it is illegal to abandon children.

In another scenario, there is an orderly process for doing so, in which the children are taken into appropriate care.

I don't know whether the first scenario is preferable, from the standpoint of protecting children from abusive and life-threatening circumstances.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
2. In 1912 my great grandparents looked around and decided that Eastern Europe didn't look like a great
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 02:05 AM
Jun 2014

place to be a young man. So they took my grandfather to Italy and put him on a boat to the US. By himself. He was 11.

He arrived speaking no English, with nothing, an illegal immigrant in a country that had no use for a Catholic farm boy who spoke an antique dialect of German. And a few years later when most of the young men in his part of the world were in graves if they were lucky and rotting on the bare earth if they weren't, he was still alive. He learned the language, he supported himself, he married an American woman, bought a house in the suburbs, and put the kids her previous American husband had abandoned through private school. They had a few more kids. He ran marathons, started a business, and eventually died a very contented and very loved old man.

His peers never had that chance.

People don't send their kids away for fun. They do it out of desperation. Criminalizing a crisis doesn't solve it.

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
3. Should desperate american parents be allowed the right to send away their children?
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 02:10 AM
Jun 2014

Great thought provoking personal story by the way.

renate

(13,776 posts)
4. that. is. AMAZING
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 02:13 AM
Jun 2014

Oh, how I would love to read his autobiography.

And yes, absolutely, people don't send their kids away for fun. There are crappy parents out there for sure, but as a rule, it is a supreme sacrifice. The rest of their lives must be so scarred by the loss and the sorrow.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
5. That's amazing
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 02:24 AM
Jun 2014

WW1 ended in 1918, so it's possible your grandfather could have died as a soldier (or civilian) in WW1, or as a soldier in WW2 as he would have only been nearing 40.

Not many guys in that age range survived both world wars. Awesome foresight from your great grandparents.

snot

(10,502 posts)
6. Forcing children to stay with parents who don't want them . . .
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 04:03 AM
Jun 2014

oh gawd, really? That's the best we can do for them?

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
7. Children who run away often suffer worse than if they stayed at home.
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 05:40 AM
Jun 2014

The alternative is foster care, often not a great solution either.

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