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Octafish

(55,745 posts) Thu Jun 12, 2014, 09:00 AM Jun 2014

Bush Hacker Gets Four Years, Bush Gets Good Times And A Friggin' Vanity Library

This guy who lied America into war runs free.

This guy who hacked into the war criminal's email gets four years in a Romanian prison:

Abby Zimet of CommonDreams.org explains:

The Romanian cabdriver cum hacker who broke into e-mail accounts of world leaders to reveal a host of tawdry secrets - including George Bush's primitive paintings, has been sentenced in a Romanian court to four years in prison. Bush has said he was "annoyed" by the actions of Marcel Lazar Lehel, aka Guccifer. Hey George: four years for a tech prank, freedom, wealth and leisurely dabbling for the murder of thousands? Annoyed doesn't begin to capture it for the rest of us.

SOURCE w links: http://www.commondreams.org/further/2014/06/11-4

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Bush Hacker Gets Four Years, Bush Gets Good Times And A Friggin' Vanity Library (Original Post) Octafish Jun 2014 OP

Doesn't every President get a library? nt el_bryanto Jun 2014 #1

Yes they do yeoman6987 Jun 2014 #3

Even unelected ones. And undemocratically removed ones. Octafish Jun 2014 #4

Hell, his grampa helped build Nazi Germany, nobody cares about that, why would theyq randys1 Jun 2014 #2

Glad you mentioned that. Justice is what democracy needs. Octafish Jun 2014 #5

No - hacking the head of his country's secret service email account was his real mistake. nt hack89 Jun 2014 #6

Things in Romania have changed. I met a Romanian general once... Octafish Jun 2014 #7

For once I beat you to a topic, my hero/pal Oct, but I'm honored that we think alike!1 UTUSN Jun 2014 #8

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)

1. Doesn't every President get a library? nt

Reply to Octafish (Original post)

Thu Jun 12, 2014, 09:01 AM

Jun 2014

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)

3. Yes they do

Reply to el_bryanto (Reply #1)

Thu Jun 12, 2014, 09:04 AM

Jun 2014

The poster was being sarcastic. The guy in jail hacked into World Leaders not just President Bush.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)

4. Even unelected ones. And undemocratically removed ones.

Reply to el_bryanto (Reply #1)

Thu Jun 12, 2014, 09:52 AM

Jun 2014

F'r instance, Gerald Ford:

Why he doesn't deserve one:

Gerald Ford: Warren Commission skeptics "no problem"

The good gnostic at DailyKos asks a great question that gets to the heart of the problem that faces We the People:

What did Gerald Ford mean when he told J Edgar Hoover that the Warren Commission members who disagreed with the lone gunman conclusion were "no problem"?

Gerald Ford: Warren Commission skeptics "no problem"

by a gnostic
Fri Aug 08, 2008 at 02:06:56 PM PDT

The Washington Post reports that, per newly declassified documents, Gerald Ford was secretly forwarding information to the FBI about the Warren Commission inquiry into John F. Kennedy's assassination and that Ford, then a congressman, told the FBI that skeptical members of the Warren Commission posed "no problem" to ____ (fill in the blank), that three members "failed to understand" the bullet trajectory, and that two members were skeptical that the shots came from the Texas Book Repository.

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a gnostic's diary :: ::

Ford Told FBI of Skeptics on Warren Commission

A December 1963 memo recounts that Ford, then a Republican congressman from Michigan, told FBI Assistant Director Cartha D. "Deke" DeLoach that two members of the seven-person commission remained unconvinced that Kennedy had been shot from the sixth-floor window of the Texas Book Depository. In addition, three commission members "failed to understand" the trajectory of the slugs, Ford said.

Ford told DeLoach that commission discussions would continue and reassured him that those minority points of view on the commission "of course would represent no problem," one internal FBI memo shows. The memo does not name the members involved and does not elaborate on what Ford meant by "no problem."

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SOURCE w details: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/08/08/564843/-Gerald-Ford-Warren-Commission-skeptics-no-problem

My bold.

No problem to whom?

Inquiring minds want to know...

Regular minds should want to know, too...

Here's the original story from the AP:

Ford told FBI about panel’s doubts on JFK murder

Former President Ford confided to FBI about panel's doubts over JFK assassination

MICHAEL J. SNIFFEN
AP News/Washington Post, Aug 09, 2008 09:19 EST

Former President Ford secretly advised the FBI that two of his fellow members on the Warren Commission doubted the FBI's conclusion that John F. Kennedy was shot from the sixth floor of the Texas Book Depository in Dallas, according to newly released records from Ford's FBI files.

SNIP...

A newly released memorandum provides more details about Ford's role as the FBI's informant. DeLoach wrote on Dec. 17, 1963, to outline what Ford told him in the congressman's office about the commission meeting the day before.

"Two members of the commission brought up the fact that they still were not convinced that the President had been shot from the sixth floor window of the Texas Book Depository," DeLoach wrote. "These members failed to understand the trajectory of the slugs that killed the President. He stated he felt this point would be discussed further but, of course, would represent no problem."

There was no explanation of what Ford meant by "no problem."

Warren Commission records released in 1997 revealed that in the final report Ford changed the staff's original description of one of Kennedy's wounds. Ford said then he only made the description more precise. Skeptics said Ford's wording falsely made the wound seem higher on the body to make the panel's conclusion that one bullet hit both Kennedy and Texas Gov. John Connally more plausible.

CONTINUED...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/09/AR2008080900742_pf.html

First off: I admire and respect Gerald R Ford as an American. He was a true hero of the United States Navy in World War II, helping save an aircraft carrier.

That said, as the FBI's "man" on the Warren Commission, Ford was in a position to, literally, re-write history. In just one instance, Ford moved the location of the bullet holes in President Kennedy's suit jacket to make the magic bullet theory more plausible.

This is thanks to DUer Debra Conway and her colleagues at JFK Lancer:

Gerald Ford's Terrible Fiction

Moving the Back Wound and the Single Bullet Theory

Read Gerald Ford's correction to the Warren Commission Report Draft:

page 1 page 2

The initial draft of the report stated:
"A bullet had entered his back at a point slightly above the shoulder to the right of the spine."

Ford wanted it to read:
"A bullet had entered the back of his neck slightly to the right of the spine."

Autopsy Face Sheet
Drawing showing area of back wound

JFK assassination eye-witnesses, including the observations of at least one Secret Service man in Dealey Plaza and several FBI agents present at the Bethesda autopsy, placed the president's back wound exactly where the mute testimony of the president's jacket and shirt showed where the wound was: six inches below the collar line.

CONTINUED w DOCUMENTS, EVIDENCE, LINKS...

http://jfklancer.com/Ford-Rankin.html

This is news to most Americans. IMFO, a good library would make sure it's part of the history section. Spreading the truth will help us rid ourselves of our current problem: a top secret and tyrannical government owned and operated by traitors.

randys1

(16,286 posts)

2. Hell, his grampa helped build Nazi Germany, nobody cares about that, why would theyq

Reply to Octafish (Original post)

Thu Jun 12, 2014, 09:04 AM

Jun 2014

care about this

Did you actually think there was any justice at all anywhere?

Octafish

(55,745 posts)

5. Glad you mentioned that. Justice is what democracy needs.

Reply to randys1 (Reply #2)

Thu Jun 12, 2014, 09:58 AM

Jun 2014

That's why I post about what Bush and his long line of gangsters have done to enslave humanity and enrich themselves through public "service."

Bush-NAZI Link Confirmed

Justice requires us to think.

hack89

(39,171 posts)

6. No - hacking the head of his country's secret service email account was his real mistake. nt

Reply to Octafish (Original post)

Thu Jun 12, 2014, 10:07 AM

Jun 2014

Octafish

(55,745 posts)

7. Things in Romania have changed. I met a Romanian general once...

Reply to hack89 (Reply #6)

Thu Jun 12, 2014, 10:21 AM

Jun 2014

...I was a reporter then. I asked him about what had happened in 1989. He was in Detroit for the 1994 World Cup games as the leader of the team.

The man had been one of the fist to publicly oppose Ceausescu and his regime. During the fighting, a sniper shot him through the cheek. The bullet was stopped by one of his teeth. He carried it as a souvenir and took it out of his wallet to show me. One of the ugliest things I'd ever held in my hand, the projectile was dull black-gray, heavy as sin and came to a very sharp point.

The general was a veteran of World War II and the Cold War and was active duty until Ceaușescu was gone. I asked him about whether he felt there was any difference between the NAZIs and the Commies. Paraphrasing, he said:

[font color="blue"]"No. No, not really. Both are authoritarian, totalitarian forms of government. The people are subservient to the rulers." [/font color]

Sounds familiar.

UTUSN

(70,672 posts)

8. For once I beat you to a topic, my hero/pal Oct, but I'm honored that we think alike!1

Reply to Octafish (Original post)

Thu Jun 12, 2014, 11:38 AM

Jun 2014

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025074907

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