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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsEvery Democratic Voter in the Country should read this article
and coming from the WP I'm a little surprised this article slipped by the editor.
"Sure, its fun for Democrats to watch Republicans fight amongst themselves and hand their nominations to the fringe of their base. But if Democrats dont vote in the numbers they need to in November, those folks who are more conservative than the ultra-conservative members already gumming up the works will come to Washington. If the threat of that is not enough of a wake-up call for Democratic voters, I dont know what is."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2014/06/12/cantor-loss-a-wake-up-call-for-democrats/?hpid=z3
elzenmahn
(904 posts)...the article is spot-on.
Those of us on the left may be disgusted with our own party (and rightfully so) - but complacency and despair are luxuries we can't afford this time out.
Get out and VOTE!!!!
lastlib
(23,159 posts)They will never quit trying to fuck us over in order to enrich themselves. "Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty" is only half-right. Our liberty and security must be fought for daily!
freshwest
(53,661 posts)WhiteTara
(29,692 posts)lastlib
(23,159 posts)riqster
(13,986 posts)calimary
(81,125 posts)mimi85
(1,805 posts)riqster
(13,986 posts)Some of 'em aren't even in the pews. Reaching them is important.
tblue37
(65,227 posts)who fail to meet their standards all the time, even if they agree with 70% or more of their positions.
riqster
(13,986 posts)A lot of the reasons that the president has not been able to move some of the things as fast and big as hes wanted to move them is cause we slept, a Democratic friend told me recently. We won big in 2008. And we slept in 2010. And we got what we got. And we are still paying [the] price.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Fuckin hell, that's the goddamn truth.
Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)Except you can't play a team sport with no team behind you.
riqster
(13,986 posts)raindaddy
(1,370 posts)One party is off the map crazy, racist, anti-poor, anti-environment, anti-education, fundamentalist Christian and sees government as the enemy. The other has become the moderate Republican party.
If Obama had governed the way he campaigned and the Democratic party still stood for the middle class you wouldn't be able to keep people from the polls and the GOP would be dead...
The best statements that I have ever seen. Spot on.........we, the Democratic base, have allowed those whom we elected to sell us out to corporate interests, wall street banksters, and fossil fuel conglomerates, while we stood by and did nothing. Our current elected Democratic legislators and executives have found the need for large donor deals in order to secure their place at the table with their greedy bastard counterparts.
The good news: There are those like Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, and Alan Grayson, who haven't yet given in to that temptation.
The bad news: Unfortunately, there aren't enough honest Democrats like those that I mentioned, to make a difference in Washington politics today.
The solution: Do everything in your power to help support and elect more progressive candidates. And when that is not possible, make sure that your vote is counted for the Democratic candidate on the ballot, and help rid congress of the most vile and evil of the lot........Pukes and Baggers.
Android3.14
(5,402 posts)Ha!
More like "while they abandoned us despite everything we were doing to let them know what we needed."
I'm all for choosing presidential candidates who will represent Democratic values. When one comes along I'll be the first yelling from the hilltops to let people know.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,164 posts)Looking at Nixon, who is regarded the same...minus that little thing called Watergate.
Nixon also believed in diplomacy (with China), while at the same time surging a war into Cambodia
Obama believes in diplomacy first (with Syria, Russia), while at the same time he surged the war in Afghanistan in his first years
Nixon proposed a healthcare bill that was much more universal than the ACA. He created the Environmental Protection Agency. Obama has just proposed new environmental standards.
In many ways, Nixon was more liberal than Obama.
But all that said..sigh....its also true that to keep the rabid wolves from entering, we must vote for this Center/Right party, and maybe have to sacrifice Net Neutrality in exchange, as both corporate parties cannot resist the salivating corporations using $ and threats to get their way on that. We live in the golden age of the Internet. Enjoy it now. It will be gone soon and places like DU will be difficult to access.
vi5
(13,305 posts)Don't forget "sacrifice public education". Don't forget "sacrifice the strength of labor/unions"
I'm sure there are other things we'll continue to sacrifice as well. But these are 3 major issues where this admin and it's appointees are at top dollar best complacent and lackluster in protecting and at rock bottom worst are actively trying to destroy and take us in the direction of Republican policies.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)the Laws have been written to make this especially hard, but this will happen sooner or later, as the GOP goes away, and the Dems become the Party of Business (have become) as they do every 75 years or so.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)Unfortunately their track record lately has been things like Heritage Care, Race To The Bottom, TPP, and more domestic spying.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)PatrynXX
(5,668 posts)if Republicans got control of both houses (right now Conservatives control both houses) in November then 2016 is in the bag for Democrats in both houses. Problem is if Hillary is in there. thats a problem... So we'll have a Dem landslide in congress with a Conservative President nothing changes.
ffr
(22,665 posts)Dems build the country back up, voters think it's time to put in power people who say they're fiscally conservative and WHAM-O, corporate raiding of the U.S. Treasury, depression, 750,000 jobs lost per month, a ceased financial system, wars without end, world markets in collapse...etc, etc, etc...
What do we see now? Democrats building the country back up and voters thinking its time to put in power people who say they're fiscally conservative.
G.O.T.V.
I'll be there again this time.
Efilroft Sul
(3,578 posts)But I don't think this country is complacent or happy now, no matter what good is being done. America is scared, angry, and fractured and it's probably worse than 1968 because our problems are always in our faces 24/7. The party that best taps into that discontent to get out the vote wins. I'm hoping the messages to the discontent speak to the better angels of our nature, but you and I know what assholes we're all up against. It's going to be Republican red meat vs. Democratic real solutions for all of us.
GOTV indeed!
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)If blacks were to replicate that feat in this falls critical Senate races, Democrats could hang on to the chamber. As The Posts Aaron Blake reported in April, three states with the highest black populations Louisiana, North Carolina and Arkansas are widely considered to be the most pivotal when it comes to the GOPs hopes of winning the majority. These three races are expected to be the difference between a GOP majority and a Democratic majority at least the way things look right now.
combined with, and in the context of, this:
If, nothing else, should suggest that Democrats should focus on what Black folks are saying is important to them.
For example, Black folks ARE saying that JOB CREATION is important to them; they ARE saying the RACIAL EQUITY is important to them; they ARE saying that INJUSTICE in the justice system is important to them; they ARE saying that URBAN OPPORTUNITY is important to them. They have NOT/are NOT expressed/are NOT expressing much concern with the NSA, TTP, Keystone, violations of individual privacy rights, legalization of marijuana, or most of the other "really, really important issues" that appear on DU pages. In short, they ARE saying that they supportive of what President Obama is saying/doing; and are at odds with those that are perpetually "holding his feet to the fire" on issues that are far less important to them.
I am not saying that the former should be the only issues campaigned on, to the exclusion of the latter; rather, I am saying that Democrats would benefit from taking a page from the republican handbook and focus on the most ardent and reliable segment of its base in the 2014.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Women want that list of things Black folks want....and PAY EQUALITY, and JUSTICE in the legal system, and PERSONAL SAFETY, and REPRODUCTIVE SAFETY, SOLE OWNERSIP of our own bodies.
We should work together.
Women are a major democratic voting bloc.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)I did not mean to exclude women ... I was speaking directly to the point of the article.
Democrats would be wise to craft campaigns to address the issues/concerns of their most ardent and reliable membership, i.e., the base.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)vi5
(13,305 posts)That lets the actual politicians in our party off the hook way too easy, and allows them to run and govern on little more than "Hey those guys are crazy, huh?" And that has proven disastrous to our party and the country for far too many years now.
At what point do we demand more than "Not as crazy as the other guys?"
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)after the housekeeping with the news release I got yesteday, and just posted, will write an editorial about national. I do that from time to time at my online paper. And that is one of the things that has been mulling through my mind.
Of course, priorities, priorities, analysis is fun, I still need to finish going over the county budget.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)When are the "We Suck Less" bumper stickers coming out?
MisterP
(23,730 posts)STOPPED PARTICIPATING IN THE DUOPOLY
RainDog
(28,784 posts)blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)It would be good for the DEmocrats to take note. Dont nominate "status quo" politicians. It's time to dump the "status quo" and vote progressive.
baldguy
(36,649 posts)If progressives don't vote for their Democratic candidates the only winners will be Republicans.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Republicans, then I agree. But if you are trying to say that the DEmocrats in Wash the DC are progressive, then I have to throw the BS flag. The most progressive person in Congress is an Independent. While there are a few progressives in the Democratic Party they are few and far between. Some will argue that Pres Obama is progressive and I will agree for some issues, but he has surrounded himself with conservatives, a number of which are Republicans of the very party you rail against.
Every year we continue this status quo where the banksters continue to rip us off and split the loot with their bought and paid for politicians (book deals and lecture deals) we sink farther and farther behind. Sadly, there are those among us that dont want to draw the line now. Maybe next election. Just how high does the poverty level have to get before you abandon the status quo (H. Clinton-Sachs) and draw the line and fight for our freedoms and liberties?
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)peoli
(3,111 posts)I mean shit, there is so much ammo to use to move people to the polls but I haven't seen anything remotely resembling an effort to mobilize voters. Maybe I am missing something.
nolabels
(13,133 posts)As long as that corner stone stands our elections will be tripped by it to one degree or another. Yea, it might be changing as of late, but i wouldn't hold my breath for it
billhicks76
(5,082 posts)Please
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)L0oniX
(31,493 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)cap
(7,170 posts)We need a positive message and a credible plan for jobs.
grahamhgreen
(15,741 posts)L0oniX
(31,493 posts)Give me someone worth voting for instead of pushing "we suck less" on voters who prefer having a conscience.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)raouldukelives
(5,178 posts)There are hundreds of investors putting money into the largest corporations who funnel that into efforts to curtail the peoples voice and to prop up mouthpieces of their own choosing.
The way ahead is hard and rocky. Choosing between personal comfort or the betterment of the world is sadly not a job suited for the meeker elements.