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Fuck you John McCain (Original Post) malaise Jun 2014 OP
To declare that a conflict is over does not mean it is over malaise Jun 2014 #1
I was watching too, malaise. My TV doesn't know how close it was ChisolmTrailDem Jun 2014 #4
So these were the goons they wanted Obama to back in Syria malaise Jun 2014 #8
K&R doxydad Jun 2014 #42
I think what you meant to say was world wide wally Jun 2014 #79
Senile billhicks76 Jun 2014 #82
And they keep putting microphones in front of his face as if what he says actually matters world wide wally Jun 2014 #83
What Happened? billhicks76 Jun 2014 #84
Your post made me think Plucketeer Jun 2014 #49
Every American better think about the consequences of ReTHUGs malaise Jun 2014 #62
Yes, that apocalyptic book has haunted me since childhood erronis Jun 2014 #107
conflict kardonb Jun 2014 #60
Why would they stay and fight malaise Jun 2014 #68
Blaming the president for what's happening in Iraq. Pfffft! nt ChisolmTrailDem Jun 2014 #2
OMFG! So does this cretin want us in Syria, Ukraine, Afghanistan, and now back in Iraq? catbyte Jun 2014 #28
You just have to hear his rant on the floor this morning. It is hair-ripping lunacy. nt ChisolmTrailDem Jun 2014 #29
Can I say - I told you this would happen? liberal N proud Jun 2014 #3
And then some malaise Jun 2014 #7
OMG That is exactly what I stood up and ranted about when he was reading Obama's statement Horse with no Name Jun 2014 #10
I'm betting every DUer who was watching had the same reaction malaise Jun 2014 #13
OhNoes libodem Jun 2014 #52
LOL malaise Jun 2014 #70
Indeed, McCain has been furious ever since he lost to "That One" randys1 Jun 2014 #31
To be honest, they all have been furious...even those that didn't run. nt kelliekat44 Jun 2014 #46
So he wants us to re-invade Iraq? Cali_Democrat Jun 2014 #5
Seriously, where do these mo-fo's get off? Blue Owl Jun 2014 #6
They get off on war Martin Eden Jun 2014 #45
John McCain is loving this! MoonchildCA Jun 2014 #9
John McCain is no statesman malaise Jun 2014 #11
Piece of crap needs to go crawl back under his rock YESTERDAY. bullwinkle428 Jun 2014 #12
All I have to say is Happy 90th Birthday Poppy Bush malaise Jun 2014 #15
He's not likely to give a shit as he plummets towards earth, ooooohhh.... ChisolmTrailDem Jun 2014 #16
It looked like he had a rough landing. GreatCaesarsGhost Jun 2014 #17
Oh, did he already do it? Maybe what I thought what was scenes of ChisolmTrailDem Jun 2014 #21
While McCain was on MSNBC i flipped around to see who else was covering it. GreatCaesarsGhost Jun 2014 #23
LOL I missed that malaise Jun 2014 #25
If that's what he wants SwankyXomb Jun 2014 #14
So McCain was shot down while bombing a light bulb factory employing mostly women. gordianot Jun 2014 #18
we're only there in the first place because of McCain and his ilk--THAT librechik Jun 2014 #19
All I saw was the subject line and that alone deserves a rec... joeybee12 Jun 2014 #20
Lest we forget Prince Stupid ... GeorgeGist Jun 2014 #22
Neither showers nor painting will wash the blood of innocents malaise Jun 2014 #24
That painting may well become his lasting legacy. gordianot Jun 2014 #26
Psychiatrists will evaluate it for centuries malaise Jun 2014 #27
Pontius Pilate is still getting bad press. gordianot Jun 2014 #30
Even with his deah fwiend in Wome... riqster Jun 2014 #33
McCain helped to let the Iraq Genie out of the bottle Zambero Jun 2014 #32
Bush signed the Status Of Forces Agreement that set the timetable for withdrawal. ( n/t ) Make7 Jun 2014 #34
Term Limits GlobalVagabond Jun 2014 #35
No need for term limits adieu Jun 2014 #53
John McCain loves war. EEO Jun 2014 #36
he's got no identity beyond that soldier fantasy. BlancheSplanchnik Jun 2014 #88
We withdrew... DirtyDawg Jun 2014 #37
Iraq was a tragic fail. dem in texas Jun 2014 #38
malaise, President Obama did not vote for war in Iraq. saidsimplesimon Jun 2014 #39
Good for him. JackRiddler Jun 2014 #43
Jack, right you are (So here's a cheer for the lesser warmaker.) saidsimplesimon Jun 2014 #47
Actually, Obama tried to stay. JackRiddler Jun 2014 #40
Is John McCain a war criminal? Dawson Leery Jun 2014 #41
Obviously. JackRiddler Jun 2014 #44
As his semi-literate Vice Presidential candidate would say malaise Jun 2014 #61
Fuck John McCain...I just had to say it also.... Playinghardball Jun 2014 #48
With a... butterfly77 Jun 2014 #64
My Tweet to the asshole guyfromla Jun 2014 #50
This is all Iraqs fault rtracey Jun 2014 #51
Probably should have left him... freebrew Jun 2014 #54
He's not my type, but... Hubert Flottz Jun 2014 #55
when he dies... abakan Jun 2014 #108
I think he died years ago... Hubert Flottz Jun 2014 #109
I was expecting that. The Democrats had better point out very clear that the mess in Iraq is due to lostincalifornia Jun 2014 #56
John you need to strap one on and go over there yourself. Loki Jun 2014 #57
Colin Powell: Pottery Barn Rule? W broke it, He OWNS it! yellowcanine Jun 2014 #58
Well well coljam Jun 2014 #59
I never liked that smug old coot the minute I saw him on TV antiGOPin294 Jun 2014 #63
McLame needs to go re-enlist. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2014 #65
Wasn't McCain posing for photos with the goons in Syria last year? malaise Jun 2014 #67
If there was a fight over lunch money LondonReign2 Jun 2014 #66
i'll see your fuck you mccain and raise you two fuck you mccains spanone Jun 2014 #69
Did you see this in the Guardian article? malaise Jun 2014 #71
i did see that, i wasn't aware that we WON in iraq. ????? spanone Jun 2014 #72
THey sure live in their own bubble malaise Jun 2014 #73
willful amnesia. and the media suffers the same malady. spanone Jun 2014 #74
Apparently McCain never learned his lesson from the last time we attempted a war like this. Crowman1979 Jun 2014 #75
Mr. Obama may very well Turbineguy Jun 2014 #76
Great observation malaise Jun 2014 #77
not unheard of... iamthebandfanman Jun 2014 #86
Sort of like blaming the milkman for the cow giving birth nolabels Jun 2014 #78
Correction.....Obama wasn't correct to withdraw from Iraq.... Swede Atlanta Jun 2014 #80
Years ago I gave some serious thought of running for Congress and had the backing of INdemo Jun 2014 #81
wait wait wait wait wait wait iamthebandfanman Jun 2014 #85
Yes it was Bush's time line malaise Jun 2014 #92
They should be required to write personal checks Ilsa Jun 2014 #87
I get sick of these neocons believing they can con us into thinking they're our fucking heroes. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2014 #89
The American people are war weary. Enthusiast Jun 2014 #90
I just wrote this Letter to the Editor: Martin Eden Jun 2014 #91
Well-stated lovemydog Jun 2014 #95
+1,000 malaise Jun 2014 #97
He does have that self-righteousness shtick down pat. CBHagman Jun 2014 #93
But he has been wrong on everything malaise Jun 2014 #94
McCain is an asshole wolfisis Jun 2014 #96
Welcome to DU malaise Jun 2014 #99
How much more blood does McCain want on his hands? SmittynMo Jun 2014 #98
Look forward! grahamhgreen Jun 2014 #100
McCain is one of the top five people in America who needs to ladjf Jun 2014 #101
Gollum needs to retire already. JoePhilly Jun 2014 #102
There was an agreement: SOFA mehrrh Jun 2014 #103
Correct malaise Jun 2014 #104
McCain is a liar, and a bloodthirsty man...no one should forget that about him. Jefferson23 Jun 2014 #105
ok heres the problems.. rtracey Jun 2014 #106

malaise

(267,784 posts)
1. To declare that a conflict is over does not mean it is over
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 11:08 AM
Jun 2014

Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah! hahahahahaha

Mission Accomplished!!! That was Bush not Obama.

Fuck you John McCain - you lost - get over it.

malaise

(267,784 posts)
8. So these were the goons they wanted Obama to back in Syria
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 11:12 AM
Jun 2014

This would be funny were it not going to lead to way more dead people.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
82. Senile
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 10:33 PM
Jun 2014

He totally out of touch now...he also looks like a broken man. My suspicious mind wonders whats in his surveillance file and who told him they know so no more straight talk and all robot now.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
84. What Happened?
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 10:49 PM
Jun 2014

How did he go from edgy straight talk with independent leanings to a frail, fearful mouthpiece automaton of the State?

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
49. Your post made me think
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 01:27 PM
Jun 2014

What the HELL sorta mess would we be in if the McCain/Palin duo had won???? Shades of On the Beach!

erronis

(14,941 posts)
107. Yes, that apocalyptic book has haunted me since childhood
Fri Jun 13, 2014, 11:03 AM
Jun 2014

And letting the thugs completely run the government will lead us there.

 

kardonb

(777 posts)
60. conflict
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 02:13 PM
Jun 2014

to even get involved and try to help in that godforsaken part of the world is utterly useless . These are basically religious wars between two factions of ( peaceful? ) Islam .
We trained their troops to take car of these problems , and at the first sign of trouble , they drop all their ( US supplied ) weapons and run away en masse , leaving the weapons in the hand of the enemy . This is unacceptable !!! Its a total waste of our troops and resources .

Get the hell out of this part of the world , AND STAY OUT FOREVER , PERIOD .

malaise

(267,784 posts)
68. Why would they stay and fight
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 03:37 PM
Jun 2014

Escaping to save their lives makes a lot of sense - why would US interests believe people who have been destroyed would give their lives for outside interests.

catbyte

(34,165 posts)
28. OMFG! So does this cretin want us in Syria, Ukraine, Afghanistan, and now back in Iraq?
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 12:03 PM
Jun 2014

I suppose that will be in tandem with GOP tax cuts. WTF is WRONG with these people?!? Endless wars, endless death, endless debt: The Republican Way.

Horse with no Name

(33,956 posts)
10. OMG That is exactly what I stood up and ranted about when he was reading Obama's statement
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 11:15 AM
Jun 2014

"Mission Accomplished"...my ass.

libodem

(19,288 posts)
52. OhNoes
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 01:51 PM
Jun 2014

Not the flying Codpiece from Bohemian Grove. Pretty sure 'W' wears it to dance around with that giant stuffed owl, deep undercover in the Northern California woods.

Odds have it Rove is the Owl mascot. Cantor will be competing for the tryouts in July. Rove may have to go back to serving drinks off a tray wearing bikini and bunny ears.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
31. Indeed, McCain has been furious ever since he lost to "That One"
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 12:12 PM
Jun 2014

translated to "The Black Guy"

McCain is known as a spoiled, temperamental brat, so he is going to go off like this till he dies.

THey have no shame, they are all worthless

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
5. So he wants us to re-invade Iraq?
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 11:10 AM
Jun 2014

Rick Perry said this during the 2012 primaries. Even the hardcore GOP audience was laughing at this notion.

Blue Owl

(49,902 posts)
6. Seriously, where do these mo-fo's get off?
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 11:10 AM
Jun 2014


The willful neglect of hindsight and blatant hypocrisy is utterly baffling...

MoonchildCA

(1,301 posts)
9. John McCain is loving this!
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 11:13 AM
Jun 2014

Any situation anywhere is simply another opportunity to try and blame Obama for something.

Bush broke and devastated that country. It could be generations before its stable again.

malaise

(267,784 posts)
11. John McCain is no statesman
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 11:15 AM
Jun 2014

He's a crazy warmonger who blames Obama for everything including whipping his sorry ass and becoming President for two terms

malaise

(267,784 posts)
15. All I have to say is Happy 90th Birthday Poppy Bush
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 11:20 AM
Jun 2014

Hope you're proud of your warmongering son and love his legacy in Iraq.

GreatCaesarsGhost

(8,584 posts)
17. It looked like he had a rough landing.
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 11:27 AM
Jun 2014

Landed on his knees and was dragged by the chute and the other was on top of him.

GreatCaesarsGhost

(8,584 posts)
23. While McCain was on MSNBC i flipped around to see who else was covering it.
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 11:49 AM
Jun 2014

Fox was covering the jump and of course fawning over Poppy. It was not a smooth landing.

SwankyXomb

(2,030 posts)
14. If that's what he wants
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 11:17 AM
Jun 2014

then President Obama should reactivate his commission, and ship him off to Iraq. I'm sure he's still capable of crashing a plane or two.

gordianot

(15,226 posts)
18. So McCain was shot down while bombing a light bulb factory employing mostly women.
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 11:31 AM
Jun 2014

Years later his bulb is still not bright.

librechik

(30,663 posts)
19. we're only there in the first place because of McCain and his ilk--THAT
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 11:32 AM
Jun 2014

was the fatal mistake, you dit.

malaise

(267,784 posts)
27. Psychiatrists will evaluate it for centuries
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 11:59 AM
Jun 2014

Mark my word.

Wash wash - wash all my troubles away

&feature=kp

Zambero

(8,954 posts)
32. McCain helped to let the Iraq Genie out of the bottle
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 12:13 PM
Jun 2014

Based on lies and cooked intelligence. The cost in human lives and treasure has been immeasurable, and Bush-Cheney's decision to push for intervention in Iraq coupled with our inevitable withdrawal has indeed destabilized the area, which should not come as any surprise as it had been predicted from day one. Yes, we could have stayed there indefinitely, surged until the cows come home, spent trillions more and add to the debt, put even more burden on military families, multi-deployed combat troops, disabled more veterans and put even more burden on the underfunded VA, pitted Iraqis against each other and killed thousands more civilians. The list goes on, all things that McCain contributed to and apparently wishes were still ongoing. What a sorry excuse for human DNA.

 

adieu

(1,009 posts)
53. No need for term limits
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 01:52 PM
Jun 2014

I have a strong feeling that McCain's time is over. Either he retires or primaried or lose in the general at his run for senate (if he decides to run).

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
88. he's got no identity beyond that soldier fantasy.
Fri Jun 13, 2014, 12:54 AM
Jun 2014

My ex was a Vietnam vet...what a wreck. And his one source of self respect was tied to that soldier fantasy he lived. Which also destroyed him.

He worshipped McCain.

Ugh, not worth going into...suffice to say the puke mindset is a total delusion.

That soldier fantasy is their wet dream.

 

DirtyDawg

(802 posts)
37. We withdrew...
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 12:40 PM
Jun 2014

Because Iraq refused to go along with the Status Of Forces agreement that the US insists on before we leave any troops 'in country' anywhere. Has to do with who our troops are answerable to. Regardless, it's the same thing that would have happened under Bush - and the timeline and direction had already been set by the Bush Admin. Same comment however - fuck McCain...something I bet his wife quit doing decades ago.

dem in texas

(2,672 posts)
38. Iraq was a tragic fail.
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 12:50 PM
Jun 2014

John McCain and his buddies never saw a war they didn't like. What Iraq proved is that you cannot force democracy down people's throat by killing them. Iraq has centuries long hated and fighting among their religious groups and we totally ignored that. Not to mention the huge cost to the US in money and lives. I thing Obama has enough sense to not go there again.

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
39. malaise, President Obama did not vote for war in Iraq.
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 12:58 PM
Jun 2014

It may be convenient for some in both parties to forget this humongous detail.

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
43. Good for him.
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 01:11 PM
Jun 2014

He even publicly opposed it, though he was only a state senator and thus could not have voted for or against it. Makes for a significant if razor-thin difference between him and people like Clinton, Kerry and Biden. Except that all of these have been in his government. And he tried to extend the occupation. And he issued rhetorical justifications at the West Point speech (last year's, not this).

So, yeah, razor thin. Real enough. I'm sure McCain would have done a lot more than escalate the drone war and keep Guantanamo. So here's a cheer for the lesser warmaker.

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
47. Jack, right you are (So here's a cheer for the lesser warmaker.)
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 01:18 PM
Jun 2014

There is no reason to cheer. You might enjoy reading the opinions of Professor Jan Oburg of Sweden on conflict resolution. We can only do our best to shine light in the darkness of political, economic and social insanity. That's where we are thanks to uninformed, propaganda feed zealots around the world. imho

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
40. Actually, Obama tried to stay.
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 01:08 PM
Jun 2014

The Iraqi parliament, however, insisted on the terms as specified in the SOFA of 2008, which Bush had to finally negotiate given the situation that had developed (opposition at home as well as the mess in Iraq itself) and made a continuation infeasible.

Which is to say that, since I've criticized the Obama admin for trying to STAY in Iraq, we can now defend them against McCain's stupid accusations that they didn't.

Once the Iraqi parliament in 2011 shot down the idea of an extension (or of further immunity for the criminal acts of U.S. forces), Obama could hardly have ordered a second invasion at the time (doubtful even McCain would have tried that). So the terms of the SOFA were met.

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
41. Is John McCain a war criminal?
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 01:08 PM
Jun 2014
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/10/05/620922/-McCain-A-worse-war-criminal-than-I-thought#



In his book, Faith of Our Fathers, McCain writes that he had been upset that he had been limited to bombing military installations, roads, and power plants. He said such restrictions were "illogical" and "senseless."

"I do believe," McCain wrote, "that had we taken the war to the North and made full, consistent use of air power in the North, we ultimately would have prevailed."

guyfromla

(49 posts)
50. My Tweet to the asshole
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 01:42 PM
Jun 2014

@SenJohnMcCain FU Mccain. Had we not been to Iraq in the 1st place, this would not have happened. So go fuck yourself and your yellow cake.

 

rtracey

(2,062 posts)
51. This is all Iraqs fault
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 01:50 PM
Jun 2014

Good God, how long does it take to train soldiers. The US has been training these Iraqi for years, and they turn and run....I say let the Kurds take over, they have enough to be pissed at....Saddam Hussein bombed his own people, so let's support the Kurds.

Hubert Flottz

(37,726 posts)
55. He's not my type, but...
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 01:53 PM
Jun 2014

I will take this opportunity to wish him the very worst of luck...always! I've been waiting for the alien being to emerge from his lying, pooched out,
jaws.

abakan

(1,815 posts)
108. when he dies...
Fri Jun 13, 2014, 11:15 AM
Jun 2014

the country will find a way to canonize him. Somehow, somewhere we will have a monument to this asshat before it is over. When in truth we should thank the universe we were not subjected to his rule with the alaskan harpy at his side. We collectively dodged a nuclear bomb, there.

Hubert Flottz

(37,726 posts)
109. I think he died years ago...
Sat Jun 14, 2014, 03:09 PM
Jun 2014

as far as being a real human being. McCain thinks the country owes him the keys to the White House just like Mitt thinks. McCain has spent a lifetime mooching off the American taxpayers and he still thinks we own him a crown. It's a good thing he got out of the Navy, we would have been broke years ago, just paying for the aircraft he crashed.

lostincalifornia

(3,639 posts)
56. I was expecting that. The Democrats had better point out very clear that the mess in Iraq is due to
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 02:00 PM
Jun 2014

bushco and people like him who lied us into that invasion where over a million people were killed.

bush, the media, and a lot of the congressional populous have a lot of blood on their hands



Loki

(3,825 posts)
57. John you need to strap one on and go over there yourself.
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 02:01 PM
Jun 2014

The North Vietnamese did more than torture you and make you write anti American propaganda, they robbed you of what was left of your soul. You're nothing but a war pig.

 

coljam

(188 posts)
59. Well well
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 02:06 PM
Jun 2014

I have had 2 posts taken down for complaining about McCain the war monger traitor so I better not say something bad

 

antiGOPin294

(53 posts)
63. I never liked that smug old coot the minute I saw him on TV
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 03:10 PM
Jun 2014

Arrogant, out of touch old fool. I couldn't be happier when he lost in 2008.

malaise

(267,784 posts)
67. Wasn't McCain posing for photos with the goons in Syria last year?
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 03:35 PM
Jun 2014
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/12/obama-pledges-us-support-iraq

<snip>
Graham and fellow Republican hawk John McCain have been leading calls in Washington for a more robust response and have criticised Obama for not leaving a residual US force in Iraq to prevent such a crisis.

"We are facing a disaster here, not only in Iraq but Syria. Extremist groups now control more territory than at any time in history," said McCain.

LondonReign2

(5,213 posts)
66. If there was a fight over lunch money
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 03:33 PM
Jun 2014

between two grade school kids, McCain would advocate sending in troops.

malaise

(267,784 posts)
71. Did you see this in the Guardian article?
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 03:53 PM
Jun 2014
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/12/obama-pledges-us-support-iraq

"The president should get rid of his entire national security team, including the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff and bring the team in who won the conflict in Iraq in to turn this situation around, but it's going to be extremely difficult to do so."


Which team is that? Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaah hahahahahha - McCain is batshit crazy.

Turbineguy

(37,206 posts)
76. Mr. Obama may very well
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 07:47 PM
Jun 2014

have played this well. Iran seems to want to come in and help against ISIS.

Strange bedfellows?

iamthebandfanman

(8,127 posts)
86. not unheard of...
Fri Jun 13, 2014, 12:30 AM
Jun 2014

iran, Saudi Arabia, and the US were all in the war in Afghanistan together with the soviets...

infact, the rift between the group the Saudis(who are Sunni mostly) backed and the group the Iranians(Shiites mostly) backed caused their infighting after the soviets were defeated...
but hey, sometimes enemies join together to go after a mutual enemy.. and at the time, it was those gosh darn godless commies.

iran has been involved in religious wars concerning fellow muslims, just like Saudi Arabia, for a long while now

besides, they've had renewed great relations with Iraq.. I kinda figured theyd offer their services.. the government in Iraq has the 'right' version of islam anyway cause that's what this is all about..

nolabels

(13,133 posts)
78. Sort of like blaming the milkman for the cow giving birth
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 08:10 PM
Jun 2014

Tell me again, people actually voted for some of these people

 

Swede Atlanta

(3,596 posts)
80. Correction.....Obama wasn't correct to withdraw from Iraq....
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 08:50 PM
Jun 2014

Bush and company negotiated a forces agreement with the Iraqi government under which we would pull out all of our troops. All Obama did was comply with what the Republicans had agreed to. He had no choice. The Iraqi government said we don't want you here.

So for this fucker to say they begged Obama to leave forces in country shows how stupid they are. Iraq wouldn't let us leave troops there you dumb shit.

And I for one now say...let Iraq burn. China is getting all the oil. Let the commies save Al-Maliki's butt. I don't want one penny of U.S. military to drop a bomb or fart toward Iraq. We are done. They didn't want us there.

Al-Maliki has created the conditions for this by refusing to include the Sunnis in governing the country. That resentment created a rift that the terrorists are exploiting.

As far as I am concerned if Shia and Sunni want to kill one another and turn the country into a flaming inferno. Who cares? Seriously....China will suffer because they will lose their oil source but I don't care about China either.

Time has come for us to say...well you pushed us out and now you lay in the bed you have made.

We need to protest if Obama starts giving military assistance to the corrupt Al-Maliki government.

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
81. Years ago I gave some serious thought of running for Congress and had the backing of
Thu Jun 12, 2014, 10:07 PM
Jun 2014

some local and state Democrats but of course I didn't and if I would have and won a I probably would have gotten tossed out within the first month because I would have made it a habit of telling the Republicans to get fucked and thats what many should have told Boehner today as well as McCain ..so your post is right on

iamthebandfanman

(8,127 posts)
85. wait wait wait wait wait wait
Fri Jun 13, 2014, 12:26 AM
Jun 2014

I thought bush agreed to the time line ...

I hear that thrown around here sometimes and by republicans, after all

Ilsa

(61,675 posts)
87. They should be required to write personal checks
Fri Jun 13, 2014, 12:35 AM
Jun 2014

To pay for the war. "That will be one trillion dollars, Senator."

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
90. The American people are war weary.
Fri Jun 13, 2014, 03:17 AM
Jun 2014

But I suppose we will have to have another one anyway. Terrists, you know.

Martin Eden

(12,801 posts)
91. I just wrote this Letter to the Editor:
Fri Jun 13, 2014, 07:24 AM
Jun 2014

One of the lessons we should learn from our ill-advised invasion and occupation of Iraq is that nation building at the point of a gun in a foreign country we don't understand is a fool's errand we never should have undertaken. Senator John McCain thought it was a good idea and angrily insists we should not have gotten out. I am thankful now more than ever this man did not become president.

wolfisis

(4 posts)
96. McCain is an asshole
Fri Jun 13, 2014, 08:29 AM
Jun 2014

i agree 100% with your statement. Bush and Cheney are to blame for what is happening in Iraq

SmittynMo

(3,544 posts)
98. How much more blood does McCain want on his hands?
Fri Jun 13, 2014, 09:10 AM
Jun 2014

He could give a shit who goes to war for us, as long as it's not him. And when they come back, all banged up, we give them nothing for their services. But that's another thread. That's the GOP way of life. It's time we quit being the world police. And it has to start now. We will NEVER be able to influence other countries. With the enemy, it's all about religion, which we will NEVER change. We will never stop the crazies of the world. Instead, lets create jobs to build a better defense for our country. Stop them before they do more harm to us. Think of the lives and money we would save.

ladjf

(17,320 posts)
101. McCain is one of the top five people in America who needs to
Fri Jun 13, 2014, 09:52 AM
Jun 2014

shut the hell up and get out of public life. nt

mehrrh

(233 posts)
103. There was an agreement: SOFA
Fri Jun 13, 2014, 10:06 AM
Jun 2014

The U.S.–Iraq Status of Forces Agreement was a status of forces agreement (SOFA) between Iraq and the United States, signed by President George W. Bush in 2008. It established that U.S. combat forces would withdraw from Iraqi cities by June 30, 2009, and all U.S. forces will be completely out of Iraq by December 31, 2011.
The pact required criminal charges for holding prisoners over 24 hours, and required a warrant for searches of homes and buildings that were not related to combat. U.S. contractors working for U.S. forces would have been subject to Iraqi criminal law, while contractors working for the State Department and other U.S. agencies would retain their immunity. If U.S. forces committed still undecided "major premeditated felonies" while off-duty and off-base, they would have been subjected to an undecided procedures laid out by a joint U.S.-Iraq committee if the U.S. certified the forces were off-duty.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
105. McCain is a liar, and a bloodthirsty man...no one should forget that about him.
Fri Jun 13, 2014, 10:09 AM
Jun 2014
John McCain Continues Beating The War Drums On Syria
By Heather July 22, 2012

Another Sunday, another gazillionth appearance by Sen. John McCain on a Sunday show. And he's calling for more military intervention by the United States in Syria. What a shock. Can anyone think of a time this man was ever calling for restraint,

http://crooksandliars.com/heather/john-mccain-continues-beating-war-drums-sy
 

rtracey

(2,062 posts)
106. ok heres the problems..
Fri Jun 13, 2014, 10:56 AM
Jun 2014

I watched the video this morning and I have several problems, that were not addressed.
1. Did we really win this situation, as far as I see it, Maliki was never in charge of a stable government.
2. How can you assist an army, when you have been training them for 10 years, and at the first tough go of it, they throw down their weapons and run.
3. Sunni and Shia have been battling for thousands of years, how does McCain think the US will stop that, especially when the new Iraq government counted out the shiites.
4. Why, either from the panel or McCain was there ZERO mention of the failed pact between US and Iraq about putting stabilizing troops in the country. remember earlier this year, Iraq rejected a pact to keep troops in there.
5. Does McCain really think the American people will stomach more US troop death in this region?

McCain is attempting to simply muckrake, because of his failed election bid. He has never been the same since he lost, introduced the Sarah Palin to the world, or even was released from Viet Cong from prisoner release/swap.....teaming with Graham is another losing point, both need to retire.....ASAP

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