Translation, 'We gave them some of the same tech we use ourselves, and if people find out about what they're doing, they'll know more about what we're doing'.

And if you find out what they're doing, you'll know how much more your privacy is being abused, and your fourth amendment rights are a figment of imagination.

Every. Single. Day.

And this comes right on the heels of his US Marshals Service's seizure of police spying records to keep them away from the ACLU:

U.S. Marshals Seize Cops’ Spying Records to Keep Them From the ACLU
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025046363

Hope and Change. Hope and Change, from the Constitutional Scholar and promiser of transparency. This government is deep, deep into corruption and abuse of power against its own people.

I mean, he wouldn't outright lie to us, would he?

n/t

Sometimes they study it to find ways to defeat it.

It is NOT ADVISABLE to give a cop your cell phone to show proof of insurance in a traffic stop.
It would have to be unlocked, and they could tramp through anything/everything on it.

Who needs an informant inside when all the phones inside are checking in. Same with an anti-war protest, Cannabis dispensaries, and keystone pipeline protests, etc. It's as if every "anonymous" activist said to the feds, hello my name is X.

What we'll soon find out is they have been rolled out permanently and indiscriminately in addition to being mobile units. It's a great way to track people.

this is.

And that is our problem...acknowledging the truth.

You get a free "flashlight" app, and it demands access to your camera (for the flash, apparently) and your internet (for the advertising) and your GPS (for the advertising?) and your phonebook (?) and access to the phone and messaging functions (???).

And to download it you have to accept these things. Police could just offer some popular apps, with the fine print reading police get free perpetual access to all data on your phone and transmitted to/from your phone. Bam. No more technical need for wiretaps or anything, youve given them permission to search, in writing no less.

(Readers of Orwell's Animal Farm will understand the reference)

If you don't like the message, say why. If you like the message, say why. Don't just complain because you don't like the source that spoke up and told you about it.

Thanks for the thread, Poll_Blind.

I think that there is an ACLU renewal form in the stack of mail in the kitchen. They've more than earned my next measly donation with this one but of daylight...

-app

If this were happening under Bush we would be pissed.

This shit has got to stop.

Anyone not disgusted and outright enraged by this doesn't even begin to deserve to be called a Progressive, hell they should quit the Democratic party and join the John Birch society.

That's why they gave us Obama and Hillary to choose from.

Same shit, different reaction.

...that maybe a few recorded conversations between a Presidential Candidate and say...an admirer, might be enough to sway a decision there somehow.
All this stuff that we have like cell phones and computers were at first designed for use by the military/intelligence community. Pilots in Vietnam had at the time an emergency radio working on extremely high frequencies just like a cell phone. Nothing like it was seen until the late 90's.
So why have two guys on stakeout when you can just sell the suspect a cheap phone and listen to him 24/7 and know exactly what he's going to do and where he is...

One of the reasons the cell companies have been so reluctant to put a kill switch on stolen phones is because a stolen phone is great to track illegal activity, and law enforcement would lose a valuable tool.

Ever wonder how those "lucky" traffic stops wind up finding all that stuff? The police aren't geniuses, they just listen wait, and pull the car over for something else and bingo!
Officer: "Pardon me sir, but does this $ 200,000 in small bills belong to you?"