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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsShit hitting fan in Iraq.
I don't see Iran standing by while the Shiite regime disintegrates. Nor will we, which makes for some odd bedfellows. Consider which side the Saudis are on.
Assad has for now defeated the rebellion in Syria, but that country and its border regions remain unstable. Our support for the rebellion indirectly resulted in the ascendence of ISIS, it seems they've managed to rearm themselves and are now threatening Baghdad. Blowback?
The Kurds have taken their nominal autonomy in Iraq's north to the logical next step by kicking the Iraqi army out. If we bomb ISIS out of Mosul are we also going to attack the only good guys in this whole mess? If Kurdistan becomes a reality Turkey's Eastern region is potentially destabilized too.
Meanwhile Ukraine is getting weird again, with reports of Russian activity along the border.
There is a potential shitstorm brewing that could go beyond low intensity warfare into a broader regional conflict.
Thanks George, Dick, Donald, and the rest of the Mickey Mouse neocon fuckwits. Heckava Job.
lostincalifornia
(3,639 posts)Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)Tommy_Carcetti
(43,145 posts)...before we shoot each other to death.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)plus the water wars breaking out in the ME.
turkey has been, since the early 1980's, and still is, diverting water from the Euphrates river for its own use,
Syria has been diverting water from the Tigris..
and the beat goes on...the beat goes on.
ladym55
(2,577 posts)take all the Iraqi oil, and the country will be all democratized ... just like Amurika. Oh, wait, not so much.
The world continues to pay dearly for the incompetence and greed of C-Plus Augustus and his neocon pals.
seveneyes
(4,631 posts)The munition maker all stand to profit. Those who intentionally deliver death to the innocent will be out numbered and defeated some day.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,167 posts)We're going to get sucked in to this cesspool - again. I just know it.
Kingofalldems
(38,419 posts)it was all over. He even had a codpiece on.
roamer65
(36,744 posts)We definitely will not bomb the Saudis puppet militias, for fear of an oil embargo. The Iranians now have a wide open route all the way to Damascus. I expect them to take it.
We will shore up Jordan. That will be the extent of our move.
We will now reap what we sowed in 2003.
starroute
(12,977 posts)ISIS is radical Sunni militants. The Iranians are mainly Shi'ites and their connections are with the Shi'ite-dominant government in Baghdad. That's the weird part -- we could find ourselves in a defacto alliance with Iran against the Saudis and the Gulf States.
Though it's not clear that the Saudis would want to see ISIS become an established power, either, since it could threaten their own power and the stability of the monarchy.
This situation is *very* complex, and it's not at all clear how it will shake out.
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laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)Except the millions and millions who protested the war in the first place.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)Biden: Split Iraq into 3 different regions
Updated 5/1/2006 8:28 AM ET Share on emailE-mail | Share on printPrint |
WASHINGTON (AP) The senior Democrat on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee proposed Monday that Iraq be divided into three separate regions Kurdish, Shiite and Sunni with a central government in Baghdad.
In an op-ed essay in Monday's edition of The New York Times, Sen. Joseph Biden. D-Del., wrote that the idea "is to maintain a united Iraq by decentralizing it, giving each ethno-religious group ... room to run its own affairs, while leaving the central government in charge of common interests."
The new Iraqi constitution allows for establishment of self-governing regions. But that was one of the reasons the Sunnis opposed the constitution and why they demanded and won an agreement to review it this year.
Biden and co-writer Leslie H. Gelb, former president of the Council on Foreign Relations, acknowledged the opposition, and said the Sunnis "have to be given money to make their oil-poor region viable. The Constitution must be amended to guarantee Sunni areas 20% (approximately their proportion of the population) of all revenues."
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-05-01-biden-iraq_x.htm
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I have a feeling this idea may come back in the news.