doubt they want to end up in a long protracted war like the 8 year war they had with Iraq while reagan fanned the flames.

If it is limited, they might do something, but I don't see them amassing a large number of troops

into three pieces. That was Joe Biden's idea years ago.

Wonder how the ME feels about that?

It makes more sense for Iran to discuss Iraq's needs with Iraq....Our foreign policy compleely ignored the importance of religious diversion and unity in those countries. But both have a Shia majority.

It was a given that soon as we left, the void would be filled with factions wanting a non-puppet head of state.


but...sigh...the US does not want Iran's friend Russia nosing about more ME territory., so I guess some outrage will be created, something that we are not immune to after all these years.

what the ME feels by seeing the whole damned place go into all-out war, because we've left the parties to sort it out themselves. Surely, dividing an artificially created country into independent sectors by predominant ethnicities is no worse than holding together warring factions with an iron boot at their throats.

Seems that the National Journal agrees with me:
http://www.nationaljournal.com/magazine/turns-out-joe-biden-was-right-about-dividing-iraq-20140130

It will look very different after this war, unless peace somehow is achieved.

at a negotiation table is at least as good as peace achieved through defeating an enemy on the battlefield.

You are 100 percent right. Problem is the warmongers make zero off from it.

The names of these provinces were:

Mosul Vilayet
Baghdad Vilayet
Basra Vilayet

I think I remember his name being mentioned as involved.

However, it is debated on whether or not this was actually done.

Right ee oo

there is a reason your dad did NOT go to Baghdad, you nitwit. You should ask dad before dad passes on though.

The rest of the clusterfwad was planned by darth & rumsferatu.

Why is the OP a nitwit?

Did I miss something?

{EDIT}

Oops, my snark meter is on the fritz. I thought you were calling the OP a nitwit...

{/EDIT}

I doubt it confounded too many people here.

nitwit = dumbya AKA bu$h junior...

Definitely time to log out of here again. I really don't have time to one up internet pseudonyms.

I wasn't seeing a lot of written news coverage, and I was kind of hoping to see some adult discussion about Iran coming to Iraq's aid...

My bad!

Snark on!

It was just surprising for me to see because 10 years ago, hundreds of how-much-well-deserved rants like this one were common on a daily basis.

Take it easy. No problem.

We just want the President to tell the rw warmongers to go eff themselves this time.

to dimson... aka dubya, aka George W.

and I could not help myself. It is still a lot of anger over that. It was a completely unnecessary war and we will get "the fun now."

On Thu Jun 12, 2014, 07:04 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

Thanks Junior
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5089061

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"Nitwit"? Be civil please. No reason to call someone a "nitwit". The point should be argued. Please hide.

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Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
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it proves that 3 out of 7 people didn't even investigate who was being called a nitwit...or worse, there are 3 who feel maligning bush II is in bad taste.

sP

Ad hominem always works on the internetz.

I was expecting it to be 7-0 to keep it. What a shock to discover that it was so close.

I figured referring to his dad would make it clear. Sad

No offense was taken.

Hi Nadin!

it is sad that people are now missing those references.

back at you

The Saudis will get revenge, probably by accepting other currencies for oil.

Kiss the petrodollar goodbye if we get involved against ISIS.

Joe Biden said. Everyone thinks he is a joke and he is the only one that knows anything. He should be President.

I remember (mid 70's) looking at an atlas when I was a kid. I always wondered why the borders of Jordan, Iraq, Syria etc. seemed to be randomly placed straight lines. I didn't learn until Operation Desert Storm that the borders were the carved up remnants of the Ottoman Empire designed for easier domination by European colonial powers.

I don't mean to sound callous when I say "let 'em go at it"'. I fear this thing is going to be a giant meat grinder and feel sorry for the people who's lives and communities will be destroyed in the process. However, the borders as they are currently configured only invite conflict and chaos.

The real party begins when someone attacks Israel or the Saudi Kingdom collapses. All in time for the 100th anniversary of WWI. Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

...but a regional ME war will definitely snowball. The Chinese now import more oil from that region than we do.

Thanks.

nothing to do with the United States.

the current situation seems like something that would very likely have happened if we had not gotten involved and if they had been allowed to have their own Arab Spring.

but the thing is that because we did get involved we can't treat it as Syria. we still kind of owe them something. humanitarian support for sure.

but so is that current group terrorizing the people.

This is a 1,000 year old shit storm. The Bush Administration just blundered to reawaken the beast. You would think at least someone in his cabinet had read a history book, but apparently such was not the case.